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  • peiman92
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    Originally posted by Omids View Post
    One word - Coach
    Yeah, it’s our biggest weakness for sure.

    If we can get Ghoddos comfortable in a more defensive roll,
    we can still use his playmaking skills. Or midfield has been non-existent since Skocic took over.

    Line up:

    Beiranvand
    Moharrami Kanaani Hosseini Amiri
    Ezatollahi Ghoddos
    Jahanbakhsh Sayyadmanesh
    Azmoun Taremi

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  • Payam_Ali
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    Originally posted by taremiscores View Post
    We also have a pretty tall team (Sardar, Saeid, Mehdi, Hossein, Majid etc.) and yet we cannot get on the end of a set piece?
    The problem isn’t the finishing. After Teymourian and Dejagah, we haven’t had anyone who can reliably take corners and free kicks.

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  • Omids
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    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
    Pessimistic fans/media.

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    Some may call it realistic 😃

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  • Hosseini
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    Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
    we need go copy exactly what we did on this front in 2018 with a couple additions.

    I think we can all agree there are really only 5-6 relevant players domestically. Hardani, Mehdipour, Yasin, Noorafkan, Additional Left back, Amiri. Maybe at a stretch for standby list hosseinzadeh.

    How hard is it to ensure these are at their maximum fitness levels.

    1 day/week at minimum TM fitness staff should be assessing them at PEC. Their should be direct line of communication with clubs to discuss their potential injury concerns, playing time, resting time, etc. This is specially important for amiri.

    Separate to these guys, an individual training program will need to be developed for all Qatar/UAE based players. This list is smaller but includes key guys : Kanani, Shoja, Nour, Ezat.

    Ezat situation is special. He has chance to leave in the summer (loan ends) and improve his fitness/form again in europe. Sko and coaching staff must really help force that. Portugal can be very good landing spot for him in months leading up to WC. Other 3 need to be closely monitored. I think Kanani season is done and no ACL, he can book first flight for Tehran and just live at PEC with Pouraliganji. There are rumors that both of them will officially join PP in the summer which would be great for their chemistry, PAGs form, and ease of access to TM staff/facilities.

    Then for legionairres. Fitness of Sardar, Taremi, Allahyar, Gholizadeh,Majid will be handled. They are fit guys and playing in environments where this will be taken care of. Similar situation for guys on fringe : Ansarifard, Alipour, Zahedi, Mohebbi.

    For our potentially key guys playing less in europe: Moharrami, Ghoddos, ARJ. All very important starters, all not really in great form in europe and not playing much. TM staff needs to have special plan to monitor and make sure they are in best shape possible in Qatar, regardless of if they are playing every week or not. For somebody like Ghoddos a transfer this summer will be really important.
    TM needs to hire you. Send in your CV bro

    Take that next flight to Tehran. You have 7 months lol

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  • Hosseini
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    Defensive shape

    Defensive shape

    Defensive shape

    Fitness goes hand in hand with shape

    And LB/RB position is shaky

    CDM need Ebrahimi instead of Nourollahi as an option

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  • O-ZoNe
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    Originally posted by Omids View Post
    One word - Coach
    Pessimistic fans/media.

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  • inarsenewetrust
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    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    The main issue is fitness in such a tense tournament, specially for inferior sides, when you play every 4 days.
    Usually our team run out of gas at 3rd match(2018 was an exception).

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    we need go copy exactly what we did on this front in 2018 with a couple additions.

    I think we can all agree there are really only 5-6 relevant players domestically. Hardani, Mehdipour, Yasin, Noorafkan, Additional Left back, Amiri. Maybe at a stretch for standby list hosseinzadeh.

    How hard is it to ensure these are at their maximum fitness levels.

    1 day/week at minimum TM fitness staff should be assessing them at PEC. Their should be direct line of communication with clubs to discuss their potential injury concerns, playing time, resting time, etc. This is specially important for amiri.

    Separate to these guys, an individual training program will need to be developed for all Qatar/UAE based players. This list is smaller but includes key guys : Kanani, Shoja, Nour, Ezat.

    Ezat situation is special. He has chance to leave in the summer (loan ends) and improve his fitness/form again in europe. Sko and coaching staff must really help force that. Portugal can be very good landing spot for him in months leading up to WC. Other 3 need to be closely monitored. I think Kanani season is done and no ACL, he can book first flight for Tehran and just live at PEC with Pouraliganji. There are rumors that both of them will officially join PP in the summer which would be great for their chemistry, PAGs form, and ease of access to TM staff/facilities.

    Then for legionairres. Fitness of Sardar, Taremi, Allahyar, Gholizadeh,Majid will be handled. They are fit guys and playing in environments where this will be taken care of. Similar situation for guys on fringe : Ansarifard, Alipour, Zahedi, Mohebbi.

    For our potentially key guys playing less in europe: Moharrami, Ghoddos, ARJ. All very important starters, all not really in great form in europe and not playing much. TM staff needs to have special plan to monitor and make sure they are in best shape possible in Qatar, regardless of if they are playing every week or not. For somebody like Ghoddos a transfer this summer will be really important.

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  • somebuffguy
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    Originally posted by milad_b View Post
    which weakness are we talking about here?

    If you mean fitness then CQ totally fixed that issue for us.

    If you mean scoring goals from set pieces then again this was actually our main advantage . For example if I remember correctly 90% of our goals in 2006 world cup qualifiers was scored from set pieces. Same goes to other coaches such as Daei and CQ.

    Its a positive thing that we got skocic and moved away from bekesh ziresh football. Only 3 goals out of 37 goals scored in our WCQ ( during skocic time) where from set pieces. Its trully amazing that we have scored 34 goals from open play . So if skocic can fix this issue then I can say this will be the best offensive team melli we ever had.

    I remember back in the day when we couldn't play on the pitch, we used to do lots of "bekesh ziresh " tokhmi tokhmi so someone scores a goal by head or luck. But Kudos to skocic for staying away from that kind of football. Even when we where desparate for goals, we played football and tried and tried to score by playing on the pitch.

    We have to give credit to team melli staff and skocic. The triangle between amiri , gholizadeh , azmoun/taremi or amiri , Arj , zamoun/taremi , has been working great for us. I feel like the whole system will work perfectly if these players are all on form.
    There is no doubt this is the best TM from any generation ever. I would say our biggest weakness is goalie and we can turn that weakness into an opportunity by having Beiro and Abedzade duke it out between the goalposts.

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  • milad_b
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    Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
    Irans weakness has been the same since 1979
    which weakness are we talking about here?

    If you mean fitness then CQ totally fixed that issue for us.

    If you mean scoring goals from set pieces then again this was actually our main advantage . For example if I remember correctly 90% of our goals in 2006 world cup qualifiers was scored from set pieces. Same goes to other coaches such as Daei and CQ.

    Its a positive thing that we got skocic and moved away from bekesh ziresh football. Only 3 goals out of 37 goals scored in our WCQ ( during skocic time) where from set pieces. Its trully amazing that we have scored 34 goals from open play . So if skocic can fix this issue then I can say this will be the best offensive team melli we ever had.

    I remember back in the day when we couldn't play on the pitch, we used to do lots of "bekesh ziresh " tokhmi tokhmi so someone scores a goal by head or luck. But Kudos to skocic for staying away from that kind of football. Even when we where desparate for goals, we played football and tried and tried to score by playing on the pitch.

    We have to give credit to team melli staff and skocic. The triangle between amiri , gholizadeh , azmoun/taremi or amiri , Arj , zamoun/taremi , has been working great for us. I feel like the whole system will work perfectly if these players are all on form.

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  • persiangodfather
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    Irans weakness has been the same since 1979

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  • Omids
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    One word - Coach

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  • Iran_19
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    The main issue is fitness in such a tense tournament, specially for inferior sides, when you play every 4 days.
    Usually our team run out of gas at 3rd match(2018 was an exception).

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  • milad_b
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    Originally posted by Under Lahaf View Post
    We should definitely play against Costa Rica (wonder whether IFF can afford to send them there) US hasn't beaten Costa Rica at their home stadium in the last 6 or 8 games I believe (if ever) and lost last game by 2 goals although they had basically qualified already (couldn't lose by more than 4 goals)

    Persuade Italy by allowing female fans? Problem is not us nor Italy, problem is the regime so....it won't happen`

    Any team in group H such as Portugal / Ghana should be good for us and also them as they will be facing S Korea
    Same goes with Poland I guess

    I think we are already set for a friendly against Japan
    The problem with costa rica is that they are already in the play-offs so i don't think they can afford to play a friendly game with us before june.

    Regarding females in stadium. The regime has accepted it and they have to do it, otherwise we will get banned from WC. They are already scared of us getting banned, so I seriously doubt they do anything against that decision.

    Yea Portugal is also good, as we have good relations with them too.


    Originally posted by taremiscores View Post
    Weaknesses:
    - Set pieces
    - Midfield (we would be stronger if Omid Ebrahimi was invited)
    - Manager (no experience and has not implemented his particular style on the team)
    - LB position: Omid Noorafkan/Milad/Hajsafi are all disasters
    - RB position: Sadegh if he stays healthy is OK, Hardani would be good
    100% agree with addition of omid ebrahimi. He is very very very fit at the moment and he also plays in qatar so he should be comfortable playing there in WC

    Originally posted by Ostad_Goosfand View Post
    midfield is weak. Eza is out of shape, Amiri is old, nourollahi is bang average.
    Ezza is out of shape but amiri is not old . He is simply not on form and the blame is on PP . He was our best player few months ago and all of a sudden bam he plays like a fat boy chasing a cake.

    Originally posted by The View Post
    - Poor at handling any Press. Even the likes of Iraq made us look shaky under pressure.

    - Set pieces

    - Space between MFs and Defence

    - Conditioning

    - Set pieces


    - positioning
    I think iraq always put us on pressure even during CQ time and that was the reason we didn't get the required results from all the iraq games ( during CQ time).

    Not sure what you mean by Conditioning .

    Yea I agree positioning in last few games have been very very poor. specially noorafkan and noorolahi


    Originally posted by Kavian View Post
    Agree 100% with the comments around fitness. Coach must establish fitness criteria for players. No fitness, not TM invite!

    Agree 100% with set pieces. At the moment, we have no skill, no plan and no tactic in the team. Coach needs to come up with a plan. Get an expert, teach and practice!

    As for friendlies, we have a few hurdles. First, is the current sanctions. Iran needs to sign the nuclear deal as soon as possible, although I realize it is the US that is dragging its feet and the was in Ukraine has had a negative impact. Without it, Iran is not capable to conducting any financial transaction in order to arrange for friendlies. Also for as long as the Sanctions are in place no European country would want to play a friendly against Iran. The second issue is game calendar of European countries. UEFA has filled all FIFA days with League of Nations games. They don't have free days any more. Our chances to play north, central and south americans as well as Africans is much better, but we need to move quickly otherwise we end up with Akhound's favourite Palestine!
    The IFF can only use the sanctions "excuse" for Big european teams however for other teams like north macedonia, turkey , poland Costa rica , japan mali or even Sweden its not applicable .

    Also what happened to all the friendly promises against Belgium , Mali and japan?

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  • Kavian
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    Agree 100% with the comments around fitness. Coach must establish fitness criteria for players. No fitness, not TM invite!

    Agree 100% with set pieces. At the moment, we have no skill, no plan and no tactic in the team. Coach needs to come up with a plan. Get an expert, teach and practice!

    As for friendlies, we have a few hurdles. First, is the current sanctions. Iran needs to sign the nuclear deal as soon as possible, although I realize it is the US that is dragging its feet and the was in Ukraine has had a negative impact. Without it, Iran is not capable to conducting any financial transaction in order to arrange for friendlies. Also for as long as the Sanctions are in place no European country would want to play a friendly against Iran. The second issue is game calendar of European countries. UEFA has filled all FIFA days with League of Nations games. They don't have free days any more. Our chances to play north, central and south americans as well as Africans is much better, but we need to move quickly otherwise we end up with Akhound's favourite Palestine!

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  • The
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    - Poor at handling any Press. Even the likes of Iraq made us look shaky under pressure.

    - Set pieces

    - Space between MFs and Defence

    - Conditioning

    - Set pieces

    - Off ball movement

    - positioning

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