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I was in the stadium that day. Iran was just great and in full control until the red card, even after the red card and falling behind the boys kept coming back. Was an epic game. Then the disappointment of the penalties. But i have to say i was mighty proud of the boys and CQ for the game. The nonsense i hear of CQ not attacking against weaker teams is nonsense and i saw it that day even with a player down.
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Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostSo let's examine this "objectivity" to see if it's even logical. As kateb pointed out USA lost to CR because they were in a meaningless game and had qualified. I also highlighted Canada's poor play vis a vis Panama and the fact they lost 2/3 final matches with a lot more on line than TM.
Skocic had one loss after qualifying with a depleted squad in hostile Korea. That might be the strongest team he faced. A team he got results from in Tehran and could have taken the full 3. Based on that 1 loss after qualifying we are concluding he has no tactics versus bigger teams? I don't even want to get into coach comparisons as some feel previous coaches have tactics yet they lost handedly to teams Skocic made light work of.
The Skocic hate is unreal!
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No one hates Skocic, it just he isn’t really in charge , other ppl who are not interested in the team are making the decisions
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Evidence or proof of this? Otherwise it's mere speculation...Originally posted by a_m View PostNo one hates Skocic, it just he isn’t really in charge , other ppl who are not interested in the team are making the decisions
Just like we were holding Korea with our B team and had better chances till Khalilzadeh's injury. Ya stuff happens in football outside of coaches control all the time.Originally posted by taremiscores View PostWe were wiping the floor with Iraq until Pooladi's inexplicable mistakes.
For 90 minutes we were playing with 10 men and we took them to penalties.
The Skocic hate is unreal!
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Seems to me we're always holding our breath for one thing or another in every WC. There is always SOMETHING that just isn't right for our teamOriginally posted by Prowess View PostWe still lost to Japan 3-0 in the Semi-Finals of the Asian Cup with a bad performance. CQ was an excellent coach, but no CQesque coach is coming to Iran right now.
Let’s hope for a good preparation, and for Skocic to rise to the occasion.
1998 - We changed coaches right before the WC started; France showing "Not without my daughter" right before the US-Iran match.
2002 - N/A
2006 - Branko and Karimi drama; Mirzapour in goal
2010 - N/A
2014 - Messi's magic in the 93rd minute shattered our hopes
2018 - US sanction drama before the match (no shoes)
2022 - Dragan (will he rise to the challenge)
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I got to be honest man as a CQ fan inOriginally posted by diz View PostSeems to me we're always holding our breath for one thing or another in every WC. There is always SOMETHING that just isn't right for our team
1998 - We changed coaches right before the WC started; France showing "Not without my daughter" right before the US-Iran match.
2002 - N/A
2006 - Branko and Karimi drama; Mirzapour in goal
2010 - N/A
2014 - Messi's magic in the 93rd minute shattered our hopes
2018 - US sanction drama before the match (no shoes)
2022 - Dragan (will he rise to the challenge)
2014 - We probably had the easiest group . If we would've won the game against Bosnia we were thro instead of Nigeria. Also Don't forget the ref in Argentina game. He didn't give us that penalty
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Agreed. But I think the late winner by Messi psychologically shattered the morale. We kept Argentina to 0-0 for 92' minutes, and then we let Bosnia score 3. The mental stamina/fortitude/concentration was no longer there for the Bosnia match.Originally posted by milad_b View PostI got to be honest man as a CQ fan in
2014 - We probably had the easiest group . If we would've won the game against Bosnia we were thro instead of Nigeria. Also Don't forget the ref in Argentina game. He didn't give us that penalty
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And I am willing to bet we aren't the only ones to have this. Every team has their own issues and expectations. It's those that rise to the challenge that go furthest.Originally posted by diz View PostSeems to me we're always holding our breath for one thing or another in every WC. There is always SOMETHING that just isn't right for our team
1998 - We changed coaches right before the WC started; France showing "Not without my daughter" right before the US-Iran match.
2002 - N/A
2006 - Branko and Karimi drama; Mirzapour in goal
2010 - N/A
2014 - Messi's magic in the 93rd minute shattered our hopes
2018 - US sanction drama before the match (no shoes)
2022 - Dragan (will he rise to the challenge)
As an example recall Ghanaian players threatening to boycott 2014 WC match v Portugal due to financial issues. Just Google them and all their current controversies leading up to Qatar. It's chaos in Ghana again before a WC!
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Yea agree on that and this is what worries me about this years WC. Our Fitness level is just poor right now.Originally posted by diz View PostAgreed. But I think the late winner by Messi psychologically shattered the morale. We kept Argentina to 0-0 for 92' minutes, and then we let Bosnia score 3. The mental stamina/fortitude/concentration was no longer there for the Bosnia match.
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Skocic (who is mostly just a puppet for the likes of Bagheri) is no where near the coach we need or deserve.
Out under normal circumstances but its becoming too little too late to make a change now. Doesn't make sense anymore.
The only way is if CQ comes back who is thoroughly familiar with the team and country, which won't happen.
He will stay if only because the federation acted too late and also cares more about lining their own pockets than having a good coach.
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The fact that we had 2 meaningless games there was no chance for us to be in pot 2 anyway , Senegal would have got it , but he refused to invite players like alipour , mohebi , ghadei, and test them, like how many times do we need to test hajsafiOriginally posted by O-ZoNe View PostEvidence or proof of this? Otherwise it's mere speculation...
Just like we were holding Korea with our B team and had better chances till Khalilzadeh's injury. Ya stuff happens in football outside of coaches control all the time.
The Skocic hate is unreal!
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His comments recent worry me that he is going to be playing someone like hajsafi all 3 games … they guy is done , he is more of a bench player now , not someone to start
We are not like Ghana 🇬🇭 they actually have a proper kit sponsor , they have have a corrupt federation like us who steal the money from FIFA that they receive… so in that sense we are the same …
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Every coach makes questionable lineup decisions. Haj Safi is to Skocic as Shojaie was to CQ. We all want want Haj Safi gone...as we did with Shojaie who overstayed a few years...Originally posted by a_m View PostThe fact that we had 2 meaningless games there was no chance for us to be in pot 2 anyway , Senegal would have got it , but he refused to invite players like alipour , mohebi , ghadei, and test them, like how many times do we need to test hajsafi
His comments recent worry me that he is going to be playing someone like hajsafi all 3 games … they guy is done , he is more of a bench player now , not someone to start
We are not like Ghana [emoji1110] they actually have a proper kit sponsor , they have have a corrupt federation like us who steal the money from FIFA that they receive… so in that sense we are the same …
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Bosnia and Nigeria were very good teams. Emineke was going up against Khosro Heydari... lmaoOriginally posted by milad_b View PostI got to be honest man as a CQ fan in
2014 - We probably had the easiest group . If we would've won the game against Bosnia we were thro instead of Nigeria. Also Don't forget the ref in Argentina game. He didn't give us that penalty
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The Bosnia team had peak Djeko and Ibisevic with Pjanic pulling the strings - that is a deadly attacking group with the whole team spread throughout Europe, 3-4 defenders who were Bundesliga regulars....Originally posted by diz View PostAgreed. But I think the late winner by Messi psychologically shattered the morale. We kept Argentina to 0-0 for 92' minutes, and then we let Bosnia score 3. The mental stamina/fortitude/concentration was no longer there for the Bosnia match.
Not only they had more depth in their team but of course their fitness would be much better than our players
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This debate bores me now. He's crap, we look crap under him and there's a list of approximately 100+ realistic superior names that would take the job if offered. But none of it matters much any more, the timing is late and I'm too drunk on the prospect of England and USA to care.
We rarely get embarrased, SK was a shambles and we only lost 2-0, Japan 3-0 was a sudden and short-lived collapse rather than being outclassed, we didn't even get thrashed by Brazil under Ghotbi. Was Mexico friendly under Ghalenoei the last time we lost by more than 3?
What I'm saying is we definitely won't have the quality so let's just hope the gheyrat fuels us sufficiently to put up a fight and chance our way to some historic scenes.
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