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I disagree. First we will get more coverage, prestige and real euro scouting with a wc that have more frequency.Originally posted by sam20 View PostI hear you man. Thing is, that even if a world cup is every 3 years instead of 4, TM would barely get more games.
Over a 21 year period with world cup every 3 years = 7 world cups - IF it's every 4 years = 5 world cups in 21 years
Group stage now is 2 matches right? - so that's only 4 more guaranteed matches over that entire 21 year period, unless Iran makes it out of group stage multiple times without arranging good friendlies before world cup.
It's not only not worth it for the integrity and value of the event.....I just don't think it'll even help TM much to have couple more games here and there over several years span.
We really just have to find a way to arrange proper friendlies somehow, which you stated is even more difficult now, but hopefully we'll find a way!
It may be just some games more but it's better than being hidden in a black hole called AFC competitions.
Your argument about wc prestige and co can be heard and logical for France England etc.. Fans
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As i said, having it more often will increase the coverage of asian teams.Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostHow many asian players were bought after an asian cup, specially iranian ? Compare it with wc.
Afcon is overhyped by african diaspora in Europe and lot of African players have strong link with Europe. That's why it has so much attention and scout and so.
It’s time we overhype asian football too.
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I hear you man. Thing is, that even if a world cup is every 3 years instead of 4, TM would barely get more games.Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostI don't care about WC being special, I care more about TM. I want to see my team against the best, not 4 years of wasted time against arab grassroling and other crappy asian side.
Iran cannot have friendlies because of this damn uefa nation league, soon other confederation will have theirs. So we will stuck with syria, iraq, Uzbekistan for good.
Nota : saw your edit afterward
Over a 21 year period with world cup every 3 years = 7 world cups - IF it's every 4 years = 5 world cups in 21 years
Group stage now is 2 matches right? - so that's only 4 more guaranteed matches over that entire 21 year period, unless Iran makes it out of group stage multiple times without arranging good friendlies before world cup.
It's not only not worth it for the integrity and value of the event.....I just don't think it'll even help TM much to have couple more games here and there over several years span.
We really just have to find a way to arrange proper friendlies somehow, which you stated is even more difficult now, but hopefully we'll find a way!
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I don't care about WC being special, I care more about TM. I want to see my team against the best, not 4 years of wasted time against arab grassroling and other crappy asian side.Originally posted by sam20 View PostEvery 4 years is what makes this event special....the fact that it doesn't come often.
So just because Iran can't manage good friendlies, the world cup being every 3 years is gonna help us? - If we can't arrange good friendlies, we won't be able to do it even if the world cup is every 3 years, and the results will be the same (likely out at group stage).
Iran cannot have friendlies because of this damn uefa nation league, soon other confederation will have theirs. So we will stuck with syria, iraq, Uzbekistan for good.
Nota : saw your edit afterward
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Please try and be calm in your responses, and don't let other people's opinions bother you so much. - No need to question me and what kind of TM fan I am, just because my opinion is different than yours.Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostMake it more special with a wc every 8 years then.
What kind of TM fan appreciate to wait 4 fking years watching the world playing nation league, copa America etc..non stop while TM has only friendlies ac and wcq against iraq syria and once or twice SK/japan??
Every 4 years is what makes this event special....the fact that it doesn't come often.
So just because Iran can't manage good friendlies, the world cup being every 3 years is gonna help us? - If we can't arrange good friendlies, we won't be able to do it even if the world cup is every 3 years, and the results will be the same (likely out at group stage).
I mean this with all due respect and no matter what someone else's opinion is, it's always best to just chat things out and understand the other's opinion & where it's coming from.
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BeIN sports wants money for a product they own the rights to.Originally posted by Leicester City View PostI know that. That's why in North America I used a VPN and watched it via beIN Sports. Others did you mentioned, like you said. I don't think that will be the case anymore surely with Paramount+ and other streaming services for Asian Cup 2023.
Also, I didn't get why beIN Sports doesn't give Iran licensing rights if the countries are on decent terms! They excluded KSA, UAE, Iran and Iraq for their licensing rights.
Saudi and UAE is it's own story as they were pirating all sorts of content that got them even in trouble with FIFA and UEFA.
By access I mean mainstream access. VPN is not something the average viewer wants to go through.
Also Paramount despite owning the AFC rights for North America, does not air anything in Canada!
Nemidoonam Canada chi kar karde be ina!
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I know that. That's why in North America I used a VPN and watched it via beIN Sports. Others did you mentioned, like you said. I don't think that will be the case anymore surely with Paramount+ and other streaming services for Asian Cup 2023.Originally posted by Nokhodi View PostIn North America, the only coverage we got was from Dazn starting from the semi-final stage
The rest was just whatever streams we could find.
Also, I didn't get why beIN Sports doesn't give Iran licensing rights if the countries are on decent terms! They excluded KSA, UAE, Iran and Iraq for their licensing rights.
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Make it more special with a wc every 8 years then.Originally posted by sam20 View PostIs this guy ever gonna stop? All he's been doing is changing things in the sport since he's taken over, and mostly all just for the sake of increasing revenue / profits.
Ridiculous honestly. He's a cancer to this sport and even if Blatter was sketchy along with this whole team, at least the integrity of the sport wasn't being ruined in many ways with crap like this, the 48 team world cups, random tournaments that mean nothing, etc.
Sorry I can see why some don't mind a world cup every 3 years but every 4 years is what makes it so special and worth the wait + the reason for these changes are what bothers me ($$$)
What kind of TM fan appreciate to wait 4 fking years watching the world playing nation league, copa America etc..non stop while TM has only friendlies ac and wcq against iraq syria and once or twice SK/japan??
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How many asian players were bought after an asian cup, specially iranian ? Compare it with wc.Originally posted by peiman92 View PostThe Asian cup is still an international tournament. Having it every 2 years will increase the chances of our players being scouted by european teams.
I would even go as far as mirroring what CAF is doing. Having a "real" AFCON every 2 years and a AFCON for local players every 2 years. Meaning they have a tournament every year.
That would be great for our local players to get more international experience. It would also calm down the media inside Iran calling for more local players to be given a chance in TM.
Afcon is overhyped by african diaspora in Europe and lot of African players have strong link with Europe. That's why it has so much attention and scout and so.
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The quickest I ever subbed and unsubscribed to a streaming service ever. Cancelled immediately after loss to Japan. Luckily paramount has everything nowOriginally posted by Nokhodi View PostIn North America, the only coverage we got was from Dazn starting from the semi-final stage
The rest was just whatever streams we could find.
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In North America, the only coverage we got was from Dazn starting from the semi-final stageOriginally posted by Leicester City View PostDisagree. beIN SPORTS was definitely covering Asian Cup 2019! Maybe because of Qatar? But there was definitely good coverage.
The rest was just whatever streams we could find.
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The Asian cup is still an international tournament. Having it every 2 years will increase the chances of our players being scouted by european teams.Originally posted by PSGman#19 View PostI rather play the like of England, usa etc. Every 3 years than having asian cup every 2 years. I remember asian cup wasn't broadcasted abroad, some members here even thought japan won't the last edition and it isn't considered worldwide anyway
I would even go as far as mirroring what CAF is doing. Having a "real" AFCON every 2 years and a AFCON for local players every 2 years. Meaning they have a tournament every year.
That would be great for our local players to get more international experience. It would also calm down the media inside Iran calling for more local players to be given a chance in TM.
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Starting 2026 it is 48 teams, 16 groups of 3. That means 2 games for Iran before possibly going home. So we have to wait 4 years and play 20+ qualifiers for 2 tokhmi games vs Uruguay and Congo DR before possibly being eliminated lolOriginally posted by sam20 View PostIs this guy ever gonna stop? All he's been doing is changing things in the sport since he's taken over, and mostly all just for the sake of increasing revenue / profits.
Ridiculous honestly. He's a cancer to this sport and even if Blatter was sketchy along with this whole team, at least the integrity of the sport wasn't being ruined in many ways with crap like this, the 48 team world cups, random tournaments that mean nothing, etc.
Sorry I can see why some don't mind a world cup every 3 years but every 4 years is what makes it so special and worth the wait + the reason for these changes are what bothers me ($$$)
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