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Originally posted by fary-jupiter View PostAsian Cup more important than WC?
Never! You win the asian no one cares, you reach the final four in the WC anyone will renember.
over 42 years asian cup becomes more important than
the w.c.....when teams enter the tournements the expectation is what sets the tone for importence of the mattr.
when tm enters asian cup expectation is
some people say minimum semfinal
some people say nothing less than a final.
few people say quater of final.
bae on that the expectation of good result make the matter
important and team melli enters with realistic shot to achieve greatness.
when it comes to world cup
some people say oh its MY DREAM to get out the group
since the chance of that is low the importance of the this
takes back seat to asian cup.
some people say dream going round of 16
some peoe say just be happy to be there
some people say atleast get 1 win.
EVERY NATION IS DIFFERENT BTW
for team melli iranasian cup is more important the world cup.
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Originally posted by Soosk View PostIt is crucial that we get the best results in these last three games as we need to continue to win to have a legitimate shot at being in pot 2 for the draw. Therefore these last 3 games are anything but meaningless. I hope Skocic doesn't use these games to experiment with new lineups or players.
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Originally posted by kateb View Postfor team melli iranasian cup is more important the world cup.
Also when you compare the prize that we get from qualifying to next round in WC is 5*+ times more than the prize of winning Asian cup.
For reaching round of 16 we'll get $22.5 million And thats just advancing from our group to next stage. For asian cup the Total prize is $14.8 million lol (thats for all the teams)
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Crappy teams can win an Asian Cup or any continental tournament - ie Greece, Denmark, Iraq, Qatar, Zambia, South Africa etc.
It’s a tournament no one except Asians care about. Who cares who wins, it’d be nice but South Korea hasn’t won since 1960! Longer than us. The world watches when Iran plays in the World Cup. You play against the world’s best. The Asian Cup can even be used as a tune up tournament for WCQs.
People who even put a meaningless continental tournament ahead of the World Cup do not know football. Sorry."This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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I think, this is the first tome Skocic has all the players in same place for 5 days without having to travel from one country to another. Hopefully they spent 3 days working together on some set plays. Too bad Azmoun is not available.
I expect a 2-0 or 3-0 win for Iran.
I wouldn't even be surprised if we breakout with a 6-7 goal game. Iraq was damn lucky, we should have scored at least 4 goals
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Originally posted by milad_b View PostKateb jan I disagree with your statement above. World cup has always been more important than asian cup. Qualifying to world cup was a dream and now advancing from the group stage is a dream. Asian cup is not even that reputable when it comes to competition levels. We have already won asian cup few times , but never advanced from our group.
Also when you compare the prize that we get from qualifying to next round in WC is 5*+ times more than the prize of winning Asian cup.
For reaching round of 16 we'll get $22.5 million And thats just advancing from our group to next stage. For asian cup the Total prize is $14.8 million lol (thats for all the teams)
On level of competition OFFCOURSE WC is the most
Prestige tournament of all for national teams.
But reality of the matter sets in nation by nation.
I am going to have my beach day
When I come back I reply more .
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Originally posted by rdwrrr View PostI think, this is the first tome Skocic has all the players in same place for 5 days without having to travel from one country to another. Hopefully they spent 3 days working together on some set plays. Too bad Azmoun is not available.
I expect a 2-0 or 3-0 win for Iran.
I wouldn't even be surprised if we breakout with a 6-7 goal game. Iraq was damn lucky, we should have scored at least 4 goals"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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Originally posted by kateb View PostIts nation by nation.
On level of competition OFFCOURSE WC is the most
Prestige tournament of all for national teams.
But reality of the matter sets in nation by nation.
I am going to have my beach day
When I come back I reply more .
For example, for teams like Iraq, Usbekistan, Bahrain the asian cup is more important but just because they cant qualify for the WC. The real Asian Cup are the wc quali games lol
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I have a feeling that we are gonna to perform exceptionally at this WC, the same way Japan and Korea ( with the help of the Ref.) did back in WC 2002 in Japan&Korea. Playing in Qatar is like a home game for us. With players like Taremi, Gholi, ARJ, Ezzi, Amiri,Ghoddus etc.
My dream Line-Up would be:
--------------Abedzadeh--------------
Rezaian--Kanaani---PAG--------MIMO
--------------Ezzi-----------------------
--------ARJ-----------Amiri-------------
-------------Ghoddus-------------------
--Sardar---------------Taremi-----------
If PAG, Rezaian and MIMO can reclaim their spot and perform like they did under CQ, i truly believe that this would be our best Line-Up. I am not a huge fan of Nourafkan, his movements are uncontrolled at times + he is not as fast as MIMO. With MiMo we are much more dynamic. Moharrami makes to many defensive errors IMO and his crosses are not as good as Rezaian's. And i think we can all agree that a fit and healthy PAG is WAY better than Shoja.
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Originally posted by milad_b View PostKateb jan I disagree with your statement above. World cup has always been more important than asian cup. Qualifying to world cup was a dream and now advancing from the group stage is a dream. Asian cup is not even that reputable when it comes to competition levels. We have already won asian cup few times , but never advanced from our group.
Also when you compare the prize that we get from qualifying to next round in WC is 5*+ times more than the prize of winning Asian cup.
For reaching round of 16 we'll get $22.5 million And thats just advancing from our group to next stage. For asian cup the Total prize is $14.8 million lol (thats for all the teams)
nation by nations.
team melli with 2 wc victory in its resume
and last asan cup final appearance 45 years a go
ASIAN CUP IS MORE IMPORTANT.
from asia nly japan and s.korea wc is more important than
asian cup .EVEN YOU ASK KOREANS THAT ACTUALLY FOLLOW SOCCER and understnd the game not the generation became fans becauese of 02 wc THEY SAY ASIAN CUP as well.
but yu niw persians ego and confiednce kicks in
AND LIKE MORJED USED TO SAY BACK IN THE DAY IN PFDC
OH IRAN VERY GOOD IRAN SHAMPION OF HE WORLD.
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Originally posted by Philosophy_King View PostI have a feeling that we are gonna to perform exceptionally at this WC, the same way Japan and Korea ( with the help of the Ref.) did back in WC 2002 in Japan&Korea. Playing in Qatar is like a home game for us. With players like Taremi, Gholi, ARJ, Ezzi, Amiri,Ghoddus etc.
My dream Line-Up would be:
--------------Abedzadeh--------------
Rezaian--Kanaani---PAG--------MIMO
--------------Ezzi-----------------------
--------ARJ-----------Amiri-------------
-------------Ghoddus-------------------
--Sardar---------------Taremi-----------
If PAG, Rezaian and MIMO can reclaim their spot and perform like they did under CQ, i truly believe that this would be our best Line-Up. I am not a huge fan of Nourafkan, his movements are uncontrolled at times + he is not as fast as MIMO. With MiMo we are much more dynamic. Moharrami makes to many defensive errors IMO and his crosses are not as good as Rezaian's. And i think we can all agree that a fit and healthy PAG is WAY better than Shoja.
big chance and he has a decent 14 weeks
pp fans will force invite.
pag healthy is must
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Originally posted by Philosophy_King View PostI have a feeling that we are gonna to perform exceptionally at this WC, the same way Japan and Korea ( with the help of the Ref.) did back in WC 2002 in Japan&Korea. Playing in Qatar is like a home game for us. With players like Taremi, Gholi, ARJ, Ezzi, Amiri,Ghoddus etc.
My dream Line-Up would be:
--------------Abedzadeh--------------
Rezaian--Kanaani---PAG--------MIMO
--------------Ezzi-----------------------
--------ARJ-----------Amiri-------------
-------------Ghoddus-------------------
--Sardar---------------Taremi-----------
If PAG, Rezaian and MIMO can reclaim their spot and perform like they did under CQ, i truly believe that this would be our best Line-Up. I am not a huge fan of Nourafkan, his movements are uncontrolled at times + he is not as fast as MIMO. With MiMo we are much more dynamic. Moharrami makes to many defensive errors IMO and his crosses are not as good as Rezaian's. And i think we can all agree that a fit and healthy PAG is WAY better than Shoja.
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