Pre-Match discussions Lebanon-Iran and Syria-Iran

[PersianLion80]

Pre-Match discussions Lebanon-Iran and Syria-Iran

2 issues:

1- You and persianLion said "if he gets the 6 points" (ie beating Lebanon & Syria) then you're onboard.
My question is why beating Iraq in a do or die game (last round), then beating the same Iraq 3-0 (WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE BEAT IRAQ BY 3 GOALS?), and beating the very same Syria, and UAE (at home) not enough to change your opinion of him ... while beating Lebanon and Syria (for the 2nd time) suddenly DOES?

I dont understand. Is Lebanon (or Syria) such a world beating team that beating them convinces his nay-sayers to come onboard?



2- You said you're ok if he doesnt play Saman. But if he "disrespects or disheartens" him ....
Unless I've missed something I dont recall skocic disrespecting Saman.
Do you mean by not playing him? Then you just now said you dont mind not playing him.
I may have missed something that's happened between these two. Please remind me.


secondly, I, too, believe Saman can and SHOULD be given far more minutes or even starts. As he turns the usual conservative team into an energetic, attacking & creative one.
But I also understand why a coach would persist with the same formula that has given 100% results, until he achieves Qualification. THEN, he can do some changes and experiment.
This is not an uncommon strategy among world coaches.

For me because it’s at this juncture that TM historically drops the ball(and makes it hard on themselves) by losing points to inferior opponents —by either taking them lightly or just playing bad. If he can change that around well then he’s done everything we can ask for up to this point—including prepping them to not take the opposition lightly when head of the group.


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[persian_pooya]

This is the English source from the organization itself: https://www.iffhs.com/posts/1413

I've personally never heard of the IFFHS, and don't know how credible they are. Can't be too credible, because Akram Afif (Qatar/Al Saad SC) and Ali Mabkhout (UAE/Al Jazira) are also on the list.

Edit:
Sorry accidentally posted in the wrong thread
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[Doctor DOOM]

yes, i'll be plenty happay with 6points that virtually put us through ...
and honestly dont care if he doesnt Start Samman in any of the 2 Games coming up but if he gonna disrespect & dishearten him by ghosting him like last time, then I’d be pissed regardless of 6 points attained..!
If he foolishly sidelines Mehdi too, I’ll join his enemy lines here & ask for his head regardless of 6 + more points.

2 issues:

1- You and persianLion said "if he gets the 6 points" (ie beating Lebanon & Syria) then you're onboard.
My question is why beating Iraq in a do or die game (last round), then beating the same Iraq 3-0 (WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE BEAT IRAQ BY 3 GOALS?), and beating the very same Syria, and UAE (at home) not enough to change your opinion of him ... while beating Lebanon and Syria (for the 2nd time) suddenly DOES?

I dont understand. Is Lebanon (or Syria) such a world beating team that beating them convinces his nay-sayers to come onboard?



2- You said you're ok if he doesnt play Saman. But if he "disrespects or disheartens" him ....
Unless I've missed something I dont recall skocic disrespecting Saman.
Do you mean by not playing him? Then you just now said you dont mind not playing him.
I may have missed something that's happened between these two. Please remind me.


secondly, I, too, believe Saman can and SHOULD be given far more minutes or even starts. As he turns the usual conservative team into an energetic, attacking & creative one.
But I also understand why a coach would persist with the same formula that has given 100% results, until he achieves Qualification. THEN, he can do some changes and experiment.
This is not an uncommon strategy among world coaches.

[oracle]

yes, i'll be plenty happay with 6points that virtually put us through ...

and honestly dont care if he doesnt Start Samman in any of the 2 Games coming up but if he gonna disrespect & dishearten him by ghosting him like last time, then I’d be pissed regardless of 6 points attained..!
If he foolishly sidelines Mehdi too, I’ll join his enemy lines here & ask for his head regardless of 6 + more points.

skovic is happy to be tm hc as he never thought
in his wildest dream he can land a job like that
as his original contract he agreed to be paid
350million toman and get pay in tuman.
thats less than 15 k u.s dollors.
he will never ever mess with mehdi at this junction
and he realized he made mistake
after his interview got scaredAND CALLED SARDAR
to explain lol since sardar is mehdi bf
skovic is smart and picks his battles.
he will do and say anything to be iran
hc at the wc to his resume
he can cash in with arab clubs after.
dont worry about him foolishly benching
mehdi 0%chance.

[oracle]

I'd have to respectfully disagree man.

We sould keep playing our best starting lineup until we've ensured qualification. We can't act like the job is done and start taking risks before we've even qualified.

I know it's Lebanon but even other teams in our group have had to work for this win against them... Even Korea.

As for Syria... Same thing.

Mayyyyyybe just maybe we won't use 2 defensive DMs against Lebanon but we'd definitely use our main starters in defence and other positions. The probability of this is still pretty low, I believe.

the lineup i want with
saeed aghaie lb
daneshgar rb
vahid amiri lw
and no ahmad noor
instead saman
in my opinion is the best
team iran has.
so imo we are going all out .
beauty about football is like politics
everyone has their own opinion
and there is no right or wrong
its matter of choice
and skovic will play with 2 dmf
against nepal as he did against cambodia
thats his way as long as he gets results
he is a daneshmand.

[BacheLot]

I hear you & agree.
But brings a question: Will we be happy if he gets the required 6 points and sticks to the same tried n tested line up, ie., without Saman, ... etc?

What will our reaction be?
I ask this bcoz this is the most probable scenario. And most probably that WILL BE our reaction: attack him for not using Saman or .... while discounting the 2 wins.
havent we done the same till now?

just wondering what the mood of the board wld be

yes, i'll be plenty happay with 6points that virtually put us through ...

and honestly dont care if he doesnt Start Samman in any of the 2 Games coming up but if he gonna disrespect & dishearten him by ghosting him like last time, then I’d be pissed regardless of 6 points attained..!
If he foolishly sidelines Mehdi too, I’ll join his enemy lines here & ask for his head regardless of 6 + more points.

[PersianLion80]

I hear you & agree.
But brings a question: Will we be happy if he gets the required 6 points and sticks to the same tried n tested line up, ie., without Saman, ... etc?

What will our reaction be?
I ask this bcoz this is the most probable scenario. And most probably that WILL BE our reaction: attack him for not using Saman or .... while discounting the 2 wins.
havent we done the same till now?

just wondering what the mood of the board wld be

I for one have been down on Coach, especially with starting lineups, Ghoddos, etc…but if he gets 6 points against Lebanon and Syria . I’m on board


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[Iran_19]

10 pages of this thread is kateb writing poems.

He is Kateb after all lol

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[Doctor DOOM]

This is just about the time & the sorta games that TM enter important matches unprepared & laxyDazy , Under-perform severely & end up giving away vital points that will jeopardize WCQs bit later on ..!
Let’s hope Eskoochie avoids any unnecessary drama & keeps the boys focused fully on the job/games ahead ..!
6 points here will all but guarantee WCQualifications & afford us the luxury of treating the remaining matches as kinda sorta friendlies, thus allowing for for experimentation with tactics & alternate players bed in ..!

I hear you & agree.
But brings a question: Will we be happy if he gets the required 6 points and sticks to the same tried n tested line up, ie., without Saman, ... etc?

What will our reaction be?
I ask this bcoz this is the most probable scenario. And most probably that WILL BE our reaction: attack him for not using Saman or .... while discounting the 2 wins.
havent we done the same till now?

just wondering what the mood of the board wld be

[CHaMiLLionaire]

10 pages of this thread is kateb writing poems.

[sam20]

here is my 26man call up
goalies
1.biravand
2.niyazmand
3.lak
last defenders
shoja
kanani
majid hosseini
s.yazdani
LEFT BACK
saeed aghaie
m.mohamadi
hajsafi
RIGHT BACK
moharami
daneshgar
hardani
midfield
ahmad noor
ali karimi
saeed ezat
sarlak
saman ghodos
golizadeh
amiri
jb
forwards
ghaedi
abdi
mehdi
sardar
karim
starting line up
against lebnon
1.biravand
2.aghaie
3.daneshgar
4.kanani
5.shoja
6.saeed ezat
7.saman
8.jb
9.amiri
10.sardar
11.mehdi
no need to play with
2 dmf against 3rd class
asian teams.
perfect games
to try aghaie and daneshgar
on rb and lb
sardar and mehdi are set on stone
have saman be bazikon azad .
amiri lw have practiced
everyday with aghaie
jb right wing with monstor
daneshgar behind him
i know it wont happen
here is skovic line up for sure
1.biravand
2.amiri
shoja
kanani
moharami
ahmad noor
saeed
gholizadeh
jb
mehdi
sardar

I'd have to respectfully disagree man.

We sould keep playing our best starting lineup until we've ensured qualification. We can't act like the job is done and start taking risks before we've even qualified.

I know it's Lebanon but even other teams in our group have had to work for this win against them... Even Korea.

As for Syria... Same thing.

Mayyyyyybe just maybe we won't use 2 defensive DMs against Lebanon but we'd definitely use our main starters in defence and other positions. The probability of this is still pretty low, I believe.

[oracle]

Of course i remember you. I had another account just like you before.


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looooooool
the only things good about old is
old people that know from before.
mokhlesam

[Iran_19]

your join date is 2015
i dont think you remember me

Of course i remember you. I had another account just like you before.

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[oracle]

Mashti Salavat nemifresti dige. Chi shod amou ?
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[Iran_19]

he be perfect rb as he has played that position
many times with success.and he can also help
our 2 cb as shoja nd kanani have some weaknesses.

attitude problem yes
but he has changed since majidi kicked him out
last year and you can tell difference in him this year.

when it comes to TEAM MELLI IRAN
i dont care about colors if there is 11 KISEH players in tm i cheer same as 11 pp players.
last time i missed an ss game was 1999 before
i got my dish as i watch all their games as well
.

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