World Cups - Every 2 years or 4 years?

[PSGman#19]

absolutely.
it's most painful.
and it's that pain that makes the whole thing so precious.

Therefore no higher incentive for nations to develop and raise themselves to the level they can finally achieve orgas... umm ... I mean qualification

Why not extend the pain with a wc every 5,8 or even 10 years?

[Doctor DOOM]

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You don't find painful to watch the whole world playing during 4 years, progressing when we have nothing than one game against japan, two against sk and iraq, Syria and Uzbekistan?

absolutely.
it's most painful.
and it's that pain that makes the whole thing so precious.

Therefore no higher incentive for nations to develop and raise themselves to the level they can finally achieve orgas... umm ... I mean qualification

[Doctor DOOM]

You’d break the league down into sub groups. 1-24 25-48, 49-72 etc.
You’d promote, relegate or stay in the league you’re already in after playing all games in the season.
You’d have centralized locations for each group to minimize travel.
Each tournament would be its own World Cup.
The winner of the 1-24 group would be the world champion.

this is interesting.
the tier system provides incentive for teams to advance to the upper levels.

but it defeats your original demaand of teams like Iran meeting top class teams.
we'll be at best meeting the likes of Uruguay, mexico, poland, ireland, Belgium, Colombia, .... and most probably get relegated to the lower tier as we'd most probably lose to all of these and such teams!!!!

coz lets not fool ourselves. on paper, we might be at 20-24 rank. But if we meet any of the teams in this section, we'd lose.
our ranking is based on meeting crap like bahrai, iraq, ghater, uzbeks, ...


and I seriously doubt we'd ever meet the likes of germany, netherlands, spain, portugal, argentina, ... (the teams we have met at the WC )

[PSGman#19]

I liked wenger answer about linking time to prestige. In this case, why not having a WC every 5, 8 or 10 years!
WC has prestige because the best teams, players and quality of the game.

What destroy wc prestige is to expand the number of teams to 48, with bangladesh and samoa.

[PSGman#19]

I don't understand how a TM fan can be so focused on wc prestige, except if he also supports an other national team like brazil Germany italy.. I could understand that from a German fan that see his NT play plenty of competitive games. Personally I don't even watch a wc without Iran, or wc games when TM is out.

And if you speak about prestige, what to say about Asian cup? No international TV broadcast it, the whole football doesn't give a clue. We even forgot that Qatar win it and who were the previous winners. A bunch of war torn country like yemen and Palestine joining the festival.

[PSGman#19]

The argument by PSG in favor of 2 yrs referring to UCL is slghtly off, imo.

UCL by itself is an exciting tourny becoz we watch the best club football in the world. Correct.
But this is about the QUALITY of the tourny.

we are talking about novelty and the glory of qualifying for the WC. NOT the quality of football on display.

using the same UCL example. If a year a good club doesnt qualify for UCL, it's not the end of the world for them. All they have to do is wait some 8-9 months more to have a chance.
But if you miss a WC, you gotta wait for 3 and half years to have another chance at it.
THAT makes it like gold. Like something you'd tear yourself on the pitch to achieve.


on a personal note' Barca got thrashed in the past 2 seasons at UCL.
yeah. it was painful for a week or so.
But we know we're back in the race within a few months again (it's a different matter that barca management have all got shit in their skulls and have truly tried to destroy the club beyond repair as if they're controlled remotely from madrid)


so lets make a distinction between the quality on display in a tounmnt AND actually reaching it.
if you struggle and push yourself to the limit to reach something, only then you'd find glory in having done so.

The difference is that Barcelona play in one of the best league in the world, so the waiting is not that painful. And even if an European club like Barcelona fkkk up big, they end in europa league. That's not too shiny but that's not that bad.

Compare to Iran NT waiting.
You don't find painful to watch the whole world playing during 4 years, progressing when we have nothing than one game against japan, two against sk and iraq, Syria and Uzbekistan?

CL is prestigious because the best players are there. But that's the same with world cup too. The same CR7, the same neymar, the same messi. They just switch teams, jersey and teammates. The exotics teams of world club are also there in CL (sheriff tiraspol, nicosia, ferencsvaros..)

[khabalood]

End the World Cup. End the continental cups. End Olympic soccer.

Stage a world league where you move up and down the rankings. Theoretically you could play anyone as long as you perform.
It would also give Asian teams a chance to actually play decent European teams considering nations league has removed pretty much all friendlies.

Big clubs and fifa are already destroying football, might as well have some fun as an Iran fan.

Please don't give the globalists new ideas. They'll actually do it and find a way to sanction Iran because we Iroonis can't have anything nice.

[Nokhodi]

lol
going along with this.


So what's in it for those teams at 76 and 59 when they play each other?
why even play?
so 76 rises to 72! Big whoop!!!

Even if we take a point system where the higher the opponent, the more points. Why should #20 risk playing #42 even if it begs and pleads and come knocking at your door every morning carrying two muffins and hot coffee?


Sare nashkaste ro .... .
32 teams. every 4 years.
it's that sweet spot where almost everything is right.

You’d break the league down into sub groups. 1-24 25-48, 49-72 etc.
You’d promote, relegate or stay in the league you’re already in after playing all games in the season.

You’d have centralized locations for each group to minimize travel.
Each tournament would be its own World Cup.

The winner of the 1-24 group would be the world champion.

[Doctor DOOM]

End the World Cup. End the continental cups. End Olympic soccer.
Stage a world league where you move up and down the rankings. Theoretically you could play anyone as long as you perform.
It would also give Asian teams a chance to actually play decent European teams considering nations league has removed pretty much all friendlies.
Big clubs and fifa are already destroying football, might as well have some fun as an Iran fan.

lol
going along with this.


So what's in it for those teams at 76 and 59 when they play each other?
why even play?
so 76 rises to 72! Big whoop!!!

Even if we take a point system where the higher the opponent, the more points. Why should #20 risk playing #42 even if it begs and pleads and come knocking at your door every morning carrying two muffins and hot coffee?


Sare nashkaste ro .... .
32 teams. every 4 years.
it's that sweet spot where almost everything is right.

[Keshwardoost]

I agere on end the olympic soccer at is current format, its a joke.
id rather have it every 8 years at the olympics, but with full squads and a proper qualifying campaign..

[Nokhodi]

End the World Cup. End the continental cups. End Olympic soccer.

Stage a world league where you move up and down the rankings. Theoretically you could play anyone as long as you perform.
It would also give Asian teams a chance to actually play decent European teams considering nations league has removed pretty much all friendlies.

Big clubs and fifa are already destroying football, might as well have some fun as an Iran fan.

[Doctor DOOM]

The argument by PSG in favor of 2 yrs referring to UCL is slghtly off, imo.

UCL by itself is an exciting tourny becoz we watch the best club football in the world. Correct.
But this is about the QUALITY of the tourny.

we are talking about novelty and the glory of qualifying for the WC. NOT the quality of football on display.

using the same UCL example. If a year a good club doesnt qualify for UCL, it's not the end of the world for them. All they have to do is wait some 8-9 months more to have a chance.
But if you miss a WC, you gotta wait for 3 and half years to have another chance at it.
THAT makes it like gold. Like something you'd tear yourself on the pitch to achieve.


on a personal note' Barca got thrashed in the past 2 seasons at UCL.
yeah. it was painful for a week or so.
But we know we're back in the race within a few months again (it's a different matter that barca management have all got shit in their skulls and have truly tried to destroy the club beyond repair as if they're controlled remotely from madrid)


so lets make a distinction between the quality on display in a tounmnt AND actually reaching it.
if you struggle and push yourself to the limit to reach something, only then you'd find glory in having done so.

[P-Rug]

Every four years!! The reason why the WC is so special and magical and holds such significance is because it does not happen so frequently, so when you qualify for it, it's special! It will lose its significance and magic if it comes around too quickly (i.e. every two years).

The push for 2 years and 48 teams is money-driven. And $ is destroying soccer and its traditions.

[naderb94]

They need to do Asian cup every 2 years and WC every 3 years

[peiman92]

I’d rather have the asian cup every 2 years. CAF is doing it right with an african cup every two years and also domestic african cup every 2 years. That should be implemented in AFC too IMO.

The world cup should stay every 4 years and the teams should be reduced to 24 teams. I like that format the best where even 3rd placed teams can qualify for KO-stages!