Fifa World Ranking

[DR Strangemoosh]

With this win, the live FIFA points calculator puts us in 21st btw

https://football-ranking.com/fifa_rankings

Let's see what happens to Sweden now after today's result.... will be interesting

[DR Strangemoosh]

Sweden loses 21 FIFA ranking points after this loss so goes below 1600, rank 18, and is in sight for Iran now....

[DR Strangemoosh]

By the way in Europe, only 3 of the second-placed teams have a chance of reaching the world cup, so e.g. out of this 10 teams and the two Nations League play-off countries (v compliacted), there is a chance that a big team or two doesn't make it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Seeding_2

Current teams which are in this position and are ranked above Iran incude Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Switzerland, Wales

[Medzdidz]

By the way in Europe, only 3 of the second-placed teams have a chance of reaching the world cup, so e.g. out of this 10 teams and the two Nations League play-off countries (v compliacted), there is a chance that a big team or two doesn't make it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Seeding_2

Current teams which are in this position and are ranked above Iran incude Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Switzerland.

Big game for Spain tonight to capitalise on the Sweden loss. If they win in Greece they go 1 point above Sweden. Last game of the group is Sweden at Spain.
After Russia’s win , Croatia need to win away in Malta to give them a chance of finishing top in the last game.

[PrinceAli]

What position do we need to be in to get into pot 2?

[The]

What position do we need to be in to get into pot 2?

Top 20 FIFA ranking

[DR Strangemoosh]

What position do we need to be in to get into pot 2?

Top 15 - Guaranteed
Top 17 - Likely
Top 18 - Kinda likely
Top 19-20 - Possible but needs a lot of luck


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Iran is officially ranked 22 (though 21 on the live rankings after today's game) . If winning all remaining games, then is likely to reach ranking of 19-20. Wales (ranked 19) has only 20 more Fifa ranking points than Iran, but there is a gap between them and 18th Croatia.

The top 15 seeded teams which qualify for the world cup, and Qatar will be in Pots 1 and 2. In 2018 Iran was ranked 34 and made Pot 3.
These are the only teams ranked above Iran for which qualification is still uncertain:

Chile (FIFA rank 21, ranked 6th in SA qualifiers)
Wales (FIFA rank 19, ranked 3rd in group E)
Switzerland (FIFA rank 14, ranked 2nd in group C) - may need to play-off
Croatia (FIFA rank 18, ranked 2nd in group H) - may need to play off
Senegal (FIFA rank 20) - will need to play off against a runner up from another group which could be Cameroon, Ghana etc... at the moment)
Sweden (FIFA rank 17) - may need to play off if they become 2nd in group now
Portugal (FIFA rank 8) - may need to play off if they remain 2nd in group

I think there's a good possibility that ~3 of these teams may not make the WC.
So it really needs the other likely-to-be-qualified teams unexpectedly lose games, affecting their fifa ranking adversely, for Iran to make Pot 2 (with the assumption that Iran wins ALL remaining games), and also needs some luck if US doesn't qualify, or Colombia and Uruguay lose games against Peru/Venezuela etc...
Being in Pot 2 will be absolutely HUGE for Iran's chances of getting to the next round. This is still very speculative and needs a lot to happen.

[Medzdidz]

Some interesting games in these European groups to see who finishes first.

Spain v Sweden
Croatia v Russia
Portugal v Serbia

Games to keep an eye out for in regards to rankings.

[DR Strangemoosh]

We should want Sweden to beat Spain (for a chance that Spain doesn't qualify from play-offs), Russia to beat Croatia and Serbia to beat Portugal.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Croatia (rank 17) just qualified for World Cup after beating Russia which was group leader until now.

I think overall that Iran's chances of reach Pot 2 are probably around 20% at the moment. Last World Cup the lowest ranked team in Pot 2 was ranked 18th by FIFA but so far it seems that it needs a few upsets for the higher ranked teams not to qualify... Let's see what happens for Spain vs Sweden.

[PSGman#19]

We don't care about pot 2 or 3 or 4.we got a terrible draw last time while being pot 3. Geographic protection makes the draw unpredictable

[Dortmund]

We don't care about pot 2 or 3 or 4.we got a terrible draw last time while being pot 3. Geographic protection makes the draw unpredictable

A strong pot 4 is in our benefit. No point if the other 3 teams beat them, need someone who can cause the pot 1/2 to drop points

[DR Strangemoosh]

We don't care about pot 2 or 3 or 4.we got a terrible draw last time while being pot 3. Geographic protection makes the draw unpredictable

The teams which are in Pot 2 are a different world to the ones in pot 3. Being in Pot 2 makes a big difference...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding

[PSGman#19]

The teams which are in Pot 2 are a different world to the ones in pot 3. Being in Pot 2 makes a big difference...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_F...ld_Cup_seeding

We won't be in pot 2 anyways

[persian_pooya]

We won't be in pot 2 anyways

Why do you say that? If 3 of the below teams don't make the WC then we will be in Pot 2 assuming we maintain our rank. So there's still a decent chance

Chile (FIFA rank 21)

Wales (FIFA rank 19)

Switzerland (FIFA rank 14)

Senegal (FIFA rank 20)

Sweden (FIFA rank 17)

Portugal (FIFA rank 8)

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