Sardar Azmoun @ Zenit St. Petersburg 2021/22

[Ali.Karimi79]

You are wrong. I live next to Leverkusen in Bonn. Sure u can't compare St. Petersburg historically with most other cities in Europe. But as i said before Leverkusen is just next to Düsseldorf and Cologne. Düsseldorf got one of the highest Lifequalities in the world, with a huge rich und sophisticated iranian diaspora and Cologne got a china town like street full of iranian restraunts, book stores und cafes. He would live a like King there. Maybe he wouldn't have the fancy assistant he got in Russia. But still he would have great life with 2,8 Million € a year.

I mean le loves it to be with iranians with his nationalistic behavior, so it leverkusen should be a no-brainer for an iranian. Especially when an iranian like Shahriar Bigdeli works as a coach in Leverkusen.

Ich wohne in Düsseldorf dash
Und nur weil die iranische diaspora in NRW vertreten ist, macht es aus Leverkusen immer noch keine schöne Stadt.

Schon Mario Basler wusste Bescheid über Leverkusen:

https://youtu.be/olk2wMAsllw

[Ari]

Ich wohne in Düsseldorf dash
Und nur weil die iranische diaspora in NRW vertreten ist, macht es aus Leverkusen immer noch keine schöne Stadt.
Schon Mario Basler wusste Bescheid über Leverkusen:
https://youtu.be/olk2wMAsllw

Düsseldorf hat eine hohe Lebensqualität und ist per se eine schöne Stadt. Es ist eines der beliebtesten Städte Deutschlands zum wohnen und arbeiten. Das sind Fakten. "Dash" ich war auch schon in Sankt Petersburg und jetzt? Was hat das eine mit dem anderen zutun? Natürlich macht es Leverkusen nicht schöner, trotzdem kann man in den umgebenden Städten ein sehr gutes Leben führen mit 2,8 Millionen Euro. Aber sorry wenn es dir in DD so schlecht geht, wie wärs mit Dresden?
Naja und die iranische Diaspora mag für dich kein Argument sein, aber für jemanden der seine Eltern mit nach Russland nimmt. Die Sprache immer noch nicht fließend beherrscht und bei jeder Gelegenheit in den Iran fliegt scheint das ein guter Grund sein zu können.

[pajamNL]

Ein, Zwei, Drei. Ja, das ist schon Ja.

Sorry, bit silly

[Nika89]

Düsseldorf hat eine hohe Lebensqualität und ist per se eine schöne Stadt. Es ist eines der beliebtesten Städte Deutschlands zum wohnen und arbeiten. Das sind Fakten. "Dash" ich war auch schon in Sankt Petersburg und jetzt? Was hat das eine mit dem anderen zutun? Natürlich macht es Leverkusen nicht schöner, trotzdem kann man in den umgebenden Städten ein sehr gutes Leben führen mit 2,8 Millionen Euro. Aber sorry wenn es dir in DD so schlecht geht, wie wärs mit Dresden?
Naja und die iranische Diaspora mag für dich kein Argument sein, aber für jemanden der seine Eltern mit nach Russland nimmt. Die Sprache immer noch nicht fließend beherrscht und bei jeder Gelegenheit in den Iran fliegt scheint das ein guter Grund sein zu können.

also azmoun spricht russisch fast fliessend! und er fühlt sich dort schon wie zuhause und liebt russland... das hat er auch mehrmals schon gesagt.
Natürlich kannst du mit 2,8 Millionen Euro ein sehr gutes Leben führen, aber das kannst du überall auf der Welt.
Die schönen und reichen leben eher in Sankt Petersburg oder Rom als in Leverkusen oder Düsseldorf etc

[Kiarash]

Ein, Zwei, Drei. Ja, das ist schon Ja.
Sorry, bit silly

That was funny to read, I understood most of what they said although Dutch is my primary language besides Persian. It reminded me of German classes I had back in middle school (HAVO, in German it means Realschule I think), the grammar was always very difficult to understand! Glad I passed it, had to take a retest in order to graduate.

[Dubxl152]

Time to fire up google translate...

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[Ari]

also azmoun spricht russisch fast fliessend! und er fühlt sich dort schon wie zuhause und liebt russland... das hat er auch mehrmals schon gesagt.
Natürlich kannst du mit 2,8 Millionen Euro ein sehr gutes Leben führen, aber das kannst du überall auf der Welt.
Die schönen und reichen leben eher in Sankt Petersburg oder Rom als in Leverkusen oder Düsseldorf etc

But why does he need an assistant, who translates for him while he fluently speaks russian? Ok maybe the rich and the beautiful people live at St. Petersburg and Rome, but where lives the sophisticated one? But i doubt what u say, actually Düsseldorf is famous for being rich. In Germany you got a real middle class, while in Russia you are either rich or poor. Have u been there? No? I have. But year tastes are different, i don't like the corny lifestyle in Russia.

For all members:
Its about life quality in cities like Düsseldorf and St. Petersburg. But if's really for life quality why does so many good players want to play in England?

[Ali.Karimi79]

Düsseldorf hat eine hohe Lebensqualität und ist per se eine schöne Stadt. Es ist eines der beliebtesten Städte Deutschlands zum wohnen und arbeiten. Das sind Fakten. "Dash" ich war auch schon in Sankt Petersburg und jetzt? Was hat das eine mit dem anderen zutun? Natürlich macht es Leverkusen nicht schöner, trotzdem kann man in den umgebenden Städten ein sehr gutes Leben führen mit 2,8 Millionen Euro. Aber sorry wenn es dir in DD so schlecht geht, wie wärs mit Dresden?
Naja und die iranische Diaspora mag für dich kein Argument sein, aber für jemanden der seine Eltern mit nach Russland nimmt. Die Sprache immer noch nicht fließend beherrscht und bei jeder Gelegenheit in den Iran fliegt scheint das ein guter Grund sein zu können.

Hä?
Ja, danke das du mir erzählst wie schön DD ist....den Teil das ich hier wohne hast du schon verstanden?!
Wie kommst du drauf das es mir in DD schlecht geht? DTown > Bonn at any day.
Und ich freue mich mega dich das du in St Petersburg warst. Fein gemacht.

Azmoun spricht sehr gut russisch. Seine Motive warum er seine Eltern mitnimmt oder in den Iran fliegt sind pure Spekulation.
Das ist kein Argument warum Leverkusen so ein toller Verein zum wechseln sein soll.

Du sagst doch selber: Was hat das eine mit dem anderen zu tun?
Deine Argumente beziehen sich auf Lebensqualität, Optik und Diaspora. Sind das auch Azmouns Argumente?

Und das Dash in Anführungszeichen zu setzen....richtig stabil brudi.

Was hast du gegen Dresden? #OssisSindAuchNice xDDD

[PrinceAli]

Am I still on PFDC with fellow Iranians?

[Ari]

Hä?
Ja, danke das du mir erzählst wie schön DD ist....den Teil das ich hier wohne hast du schon verstanden?!
Wie kommst du drauf das es mir in DD schlecht geht? DTown > Bonn at any day.
Und ich freue mich mega dich das du in St Petersburg warst. Fein gemacht.

Azmoun spricht sehr gut russisch. Seine Motive warum er seine Eltern mitnimmt oder in den Iran fliegt sind pure Spekulation.
Das ist kein Argument warum Leverkusen so ein toller Verein zum wechseln sein soll.

Du sagst doch selber: Was hat das eine mit dem anderen zu tun?
Deine Argumente beziehen sich auf Lebensqualität, Optik und Diaspora. Sind das auch Azmouns Argumente?

Und das Dash in Anführungszeichen zu setzen....richtig stabil brudi.

Was hast du gegen Dresden? #OssisSindAuchNice xDDD

Düsseldorf is nice, more then Bonn. No problem to appreciate that. No my arguments weren't that, but that Azmoun can have great time in germany. More than in Russia for sure. The only thing is: In Germany he has to show some ambition Dude come on.. a assistant who translates for u? Thats why players like AJB and Mahdavikia will always have my respect, cause worked hard!

[inarsenewetrust]

Düsseldorf is nice, more then Bonn. No problem to appreciate that. No my arguments weren't that, but that Azmoun can have great time in germany. More than in Russia for sure. The only thing is: In Germany he has to show some ambition Dude come on.. a assistant who translates for u? Thats why players like AJB and Mahdavikia will always have my respect, cause worked hard!

this matter of the assistant is way over blown. The guy was actually the youth scout that showed his highlights to rubin chief scout who showed them to berdyev and together they were scouting him at the Valentin Granatkin memorial cup that is held year in St. Pete with countries from Europe, S. America, Asia all competing.

Since then the guy (who is tajik or something and fluent in persian) helped azmoun out when he started in rubin and has some technical expertise so Berdyev promoted him to some sort of assistant coach/azmoun trainer in rostov and then again in rubin.

Basically now he is just helping occasional translations (azmoun does most interviews in russian without translation anyways, and speaks more or less fluent english) and is more like a close friend they were able to hook up with a job in Zenit more than anything.

Wont affect him one bit should he go to a big league and the guy isnt able to join him, vali ban kardin behesh like he is the guru responsible for azmoun being able to tie his shoes lol

[Ari]

Could u show me a interview where he speaks english or russian fluently? Not only some phrases. Because I don't find any. Maybe to got some proof? This is the latest interview from 2019 i could find on youtube, where he doesn't speak englisch or russian and the translator aka his own assistant had to translate.

Don't get me wrong i actually like him as a person and player, but he is lazy and got no professional attitude like players like taremi or jahanbakhsh. And sorry sometimes u have to appreciate the strengths of others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1sajQxe2I

[inarsenewetrust]

Could u show me a interview where he speaks english or russian fluently? Not only some phrases. Because I don't find any. Maybe to got some proof? This is the latest interview from 2019 i could find on youtube, where he doesn't speak englisch or russian and the translator aka his own assistant had to translate.
Don't get me wrong i actually like him as a person and player, but he is lazy and got no professional attitude like players like taremi or jahanbakhsh. And sorry sometimes u have to appreciate the strengths of others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1sajQxe2I

yeah in 2 years his russian has improved. There were multiple posted here if you want to find, not full 30 minute sit downs, for more in depth stuff I am assuming he still is using translator, but enough to get by on day to day basis and understand coach and teammates, yes. We dont need him to have phD in russian language. Remember poch used a translator for many years in england even after he spoke english with squad, just bc he did not feel confident to do longer, in depth interviews.

Tevez in 9 years in england didnt know how to say good morning at the end. Sardar's english is solid enough to get by and understand tactical instructions, he was/is not speaking swahili on regular basis with CQ or his teammates in zenit

Edit: Actually there was this long sit down zenit tv did with him in Iran. He conducted the long interview in very fluent english w/o any translator. That was couple years ago., starts at 6:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGst9XP2uGE

[Ghermez Agha]

Azmoun does most of his interviews in Russian without a translator it’s all over the old thread from last season I would definitely not call him lazy. Russian ain’t that easy to pick up but after living there for 6-7 years he has learned it decently enough to get himself around and hold a convo. The evidence is there for you.

His English was good enough to speak with Queiroz too. He’s not lazy at all when it comes to learning other languages….being able to speak 1 fluently and hold a conversation in 2 more is more than 90% of ppl can say. Let’s plz stop with the myths plz.

Edit: oh yeah and turkmen too….make that 4 languages. Lol.

[inarsenewetrust]

The guy speaks:
Persian, Turkish, Turkmen, Russian and English all to workable proficiency.
How many languages do the rest of us speak?

There are some things people say about this guy that make such little sense to me. Immature, if you are talking early zenit days or before, 100% yes. Why do you think berdyev said he wasnt ready to go to a top league? BC he wanted to watch him play like crap for rubin? Did he used to get hyper emotional like many young CFs after bad performances or missing chances, 100% yes. That is statistically evident in how he only scored his goals in purple patches at random points in the season then went on long goalless droughts. That no longer happens bc he is way more professional and emotionally stable. Did this immaturity cost him a proper move to europe before? Yes. If he had the required maturity he would have taken the lazio/leverkusen offers and berdyev + his other close advisors who see and work with him every day would be confident in his ability to succeed there. Would that be better than him going back to rubin and from there to zenit and still being in zenit? Sure.

But bache nane whose mom still makes him food and therefore he wont ever leave russia? How does that even make sense? His mom cant cook food in another european country? So whats bad if hes close with his parents? Is it better for his performance to be close with them or some random russian chick?

I think since a long time ago some people decided they dont like this guy for whatever reasons. And bc of that they are waiting at every opportunity to say some pretty offensive stuff about him. Even in TM if he played one mediocre game people were waiting like vultures to jump on him, saving our ASS in WCQ suddenly shut them up for a while but they are around waiting still. Weird way to treat the best player of our national team. But iranians are a weird people anyways who tend to do this to their best.

There are many national teams much better than ours who would love to have a CF like him leading their lines.