Do you think we will make it to the World Cup 2022 ?

[perspolis#1]

Key is Bahrain game. If the boys win that one, they will play with more calm against Iraq. Anyone know if there will be a problem getting azadi full for the last 2 games?

I’m thinking with women attending? (Which i’m very happy about) Will they keep azadi half-empty just so the ”distance” is kept between men and women? We need a full Azadi for these two games!

You have to throw Corona on top of that.

I don't see full stadiums being allowed even as late as November especially if there is a 2nd wave

[peiman92]

Key is Bahrain game. If the boys win that one, they will play with more calm against Iraq. Anyone know if there will be a problem getting azadi full for the last 2 games?

I’m thinking with women attending? (Which i’m very happy about) Will they keep azadi half-empty just so the ”distance” is kept between men and women? We need a full Azadi for these two games!

[Sepehr9]

The last time anyone here called me for being negative was during the last AC games when I was typing my head off that we needed to sign a new contract with CQ ASAP or else he's gone.
Ebrahimi is a good player and he had a great WC (way above expectations) but I don't know why you even mention his name in the same sentence as Nekounam's. He can not even wipe Nekounam's shoes. During his whole career, only CQ could give him the "super power" he got during the WC. He may still be very good and useful under the new coach but he's not a safe bet to rely on at this age. Yes, Ezattollahi needs to get fit and in form again... he's not there yet. and he's the only player we have who could replace a player like Nekounam in that sense. Nourollahi and the rest are just good players. They're nothing special.
You can not go around waiting for a coach like CQ to come around and make super humans out of our average players. If we want to be on the safe side, it is important for Skocic (who's not yet proven as TM head coach) to start looking around for new young talents who could get experienced and hopefully progress into becoming "Nekounam-like" players.
Ps. Haji Safi's real position is LAM.

Ebrahimi can't even shine Nekounam's shoes? Come on now, you make it seem as if Nekounam was Pirlo and Ebrahimi is Tahami. Ebrahimi and Nekounam are different type of players with different qualities, both are outstanding players in Asia. And by Asian standards non of the TM players are average seeing how we belong to the best four football nations in Asia, talentwise.

Average players by Asian standards is what you can find in the Chinese national team or the Syrian national team. Below average would be Pakistan and Indonesia. Don't forget that are competing in Asia and to call TM players average by Asian standards is ridicolous and very wrong.

Hajsafi is pretty much useless going forward, he is however strong in his positioning play and reading the game and making short passes, he is not the type who dribbles and opens up space and gives assists so how can his real position be LAM? Why are you making things up to support your argument? Hajsafi is the type of midfielder who puts pressure on the opponents and runs tirelessly, his best position is as CDM and not LAM or left back though can he play there ofcourse.

Like i mentioned before we have four good CDM players in TM by Asian standars and hopefully good talent coming up, Wilmots is to blame for our current situation, just read Azmoun's interview regarding Wilmots clueless and horrible coaching, the man had zero knowledge regarding Iranian football, the coach of Mes Kerman or Sanat Naft would even have done a much better job. Any half decent coach should be able to lead TM to the sorld cup. So your arguments regarding Iranian players being weak in the CDM positions are false. Ebrahimi, Ezatolahi, Hajsafi and Nourollahi are all good players by Asian standards, the same goes for every other position were we have at least two quality players (again by Asian standards).

[perspolis#1]

With another period of “salaam & Salevat” we would probably, almost certainly and kind of for sure make it. The Iranian style.

Energy salavat azad bayad gardad!

I miss those threads so much..

[khodam]

Do you think we will make it to the World Cup 2022 ?

With another period of “salaam & Salevat” we would probably, almost certainly and kind of for sure make it. The Iranian style.

[Medzdidz]

I think this football closure has been good for the National team in the aspect that it has given the new manager and his team some time to look at players , I know it is by video but he can still so analysis and has time to do this.
Also it has given more time between his announcement and his first match will should take some of the limelight off him when the qualifiers come back.

[perspolis#1]

Ebrahimi is an outstanding player by Asian standards, and will remain so for the next 2-3 years, he is very experienced which is something we need and he will be the leader in our midfield. Nekounam was also 34 years during world cup 2014. Which is the same age Ebrahimi will be for the world cup in 2022. Hajsafi is good at CDM which he has proven many times especially at the world cup of 2014, his true position is in midfield and not as a left back. .

Ebrahimi is a skirmisher though and Nekounams greatest trait was reading passing lanes. I see Ebrahimi more like Teimourian was where he did fall off because he lost some speed and therefore his ability to fight for the ball.

Hajsafi can play CDM as seen under CQ but he needs someone like Ezatolahi next to him or its no good.

[Sly]

Ebrahimi is an outstanding player by Asian standards, and will remain so for the next 2-3 years, he is very experienced which is something we need and he will be the leader in our midfield. Nekounam was also 34 years during world cup 2014. Which is the same age Ebrahimi will be for the world cup in 2022. Hajsafi is good at CDM which he has proven many times especially at the world cup of 2014, his true position is in midfield and not as a left back. Ezatollahi only needs to become fit again and he is one of the best CDM's in Asia, and Nourollahi is a very talented and good player by Asian standards with alot of potential and he is also experienced. If you can count, that is 4 quality players for two CDM positions. You're being unnecessary negative on our players and you come with baseless arguments for something that is not the issue right now. The problem we have is that we hired a completely incompetent coach in Wilmots who made a big mess, and now we are in need of a good coach who can get us out of this mess, it's that simple. We need a good preparation as well, without it even Pep Guardiola can't do much for us.

Carlos Quieroz proved what a good coach can do for our football. Wilmots proved the damage a bad coach can cause to our football and national team.

The last time anyone here called me for being negative was during the last AC games when I was typing my head off that we needed to sign a new contract with CQ ASAP or else he's gone.

Ebrahimi is a good player and he had a great WC (way above expectations) but I don't know why you even mention his name in the same sentence as Nekounam's. He can not even wipe Nekounam's shoes. During his whole career, only CQ could give him the "super power" he got during the WC. He may still be very good and useful under the new coach but he's not a safe bet to rely on at this age. Yes, Ezattollahi needs to get fit and in form again... he's not there yet. and he's the only player we have who could replace a player like Nekounam in that sense. Nourollahi and the rest are just good players. They're nothing special.

You can not go around waiting for a coach like CQ to come around and make super humans out of our average players. If we want to be on the safe side, it is important for Skocic (who's not yet proven as TM head coach) to start looking around for new young talents who could get experienced and hopefully progress into becoming "Nekounam-like" players.

Ps. Haji Safi's real position is LAM.

[Sepehr9]

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Good coach and good preparation is a necessity but Ebrahimi is 32 years old and he's not getting any younger (for the WC he'd be 34 or almost 35), Ezatollahi's form is questionable at the moment, Nourollahi lacks the international experience (relatively). Haji Safi is our only reliable player in that position which is not even his true position. Compared to our other positions where we have at least 1-2 players in Europe and 1-2 players in Iran with high international experience, I'd say we lack depth in our CDM. I mean even if Ezatollahi and Haji Safi are fine together, it's enough if one of them gets injured. That is why it is important for Skocic to start thinking about that already now.

Ebrahimi is an outstanding player by Asian standards, and will remain so for the next 2-3 years, he is very experienced which is something we need and he will be the leader in our midfield. Nekounam was also 34 years during world cup 2014. Which is the same age Ebrahimi will be for the world cup in 2022. Hajsafi is good at CDM which he has proven many times especially at the world cup of 2014, his true position is in midfield and not as a left back. Ezatollahi only needs to become fit again and he is one of the best CDM's in Asia, and Nourollahi is a very talented and good player by Asian standards with alot of potential and he is also experienced. If you can count, that is 4 quality players for two CDM positions. You're being unnecessary negative on our players and you come with baseless arguments for something that is not the issue right now. The problem we have is that we hired a completely incompetent coach in Wilmots who made a big mess, and now we are in need of a good coach who can get us out of this mess, it's that simple. We need a good preparation as well, without it even Pep Guardiola can't do much for us.

Carlos Quieroz proved what a good coach can do for our football. Wilmots proved the damage a bad coach can cause to our football and national team.

[EKBATAN]

One game at a time

[Sly]

Hajsafi is not impressive to me. So far he added nothing to the team.

While I agree with you that we need to start thinking about our CDM, I think that is quite harsh to say. The last time the guy added something to TM was as recent as in the WC where he was behind our only win.

It's not easy to be used in positions that are not your true positions. The guy has probably been the biggest utility player in TM's history.

[Sly]

No we don't, Ebrahimi, Ezatolahi, Nourolahi and Hajsafi are more than decent by Asian standards. What we need is a good coach and friendly matches/good preparation for the qualifiers.

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Good coach and good preparation is a necessity but Ebrahimi is 32 years old and he's not getting any younger (for the WC he'd be 34 or almost 35), Ezatollahi's form is questionable at the moment, Nourollahi lacks the international experience (relatively). Haji Safi is our only reliable player in that position which is not even his true position. Compared to our other positions where we have at least 1-2 players in Europe and 1-2 players in Iran with high international experience, I'd say we lack depth in our CDM. I mean even if Ezatollahi and Haji Safi are fine together, it's enough if one of them gets injured. That is why it is important for Skocic to start thinking about that already now.

[M.U.F.C]

you said CAM in your original post, not CM. While we are missing somebody in the mould you mention ebrahimi was excellent in belgium this year, nourollahi has been very bright for TM in past two matches despite hard circumstances, saeid is finally returning to fitness, hajsafi can also play CM. That should be enough in my opinion, although it is not ideal, as a result of saeid not progressing as expected.

Ebrahimi who may return to QSL soon is getting old. Ezatollahi is not progressing as I expect. Hajsafi is not impressive to me. So far he added nothing to the team. Nourollahi is just ok. None of those players are at the level of Bagheri, Nekounam, Teymourian, etc.

[inarsenewetrust]

None of those players are CM. We are really missing someone like Karim Bagheri in the CM.

you said CAM in your original post, not CM. While we are missing somebody in the mould you mention ebrahimi was excellent in belgium this year, nourollahi has been very bright for TM in past two matches despite hard circumstances, saeid is finally returning to fitness, hajsafi can also play CM. That should be enough in my opinion, although it is not ideal, as a result of saeid not progressing as expected.

[M.U.F.C]

What do you think? When we have Gholizadeh, Ghoddos and Torabi (who is much better suited as a cam than winger) for this position, how many Asian national football teams can claim they have this talent level for any position, starting from the goalkeepers to the defenders, midfielders and forwards. Only one or two national teams at best. No sir, we have the talent, but we need a good coaching staff coupled with a good preparation.

None of those players are CM. We are really missing someone like Karim Bagheri in the CM.