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You’re in your own world man....any of these 23 players can be a starter in the team CQ knows it and so do the fans. Heck even the opponents know it they have sleepless nights trying to guess what CQ’s XI will be
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I'm a bit worried that our players are alreadly looking sharp. I hope they will maintain the current fitness level in the knockout stage.
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Honestly there is no thing as weaker or stronger in this tournament ! all teams are ready to win. And from my experience you can't never ever take a game easy in this asian cups , there is always something (god forbid) that mess up our plan!Originally posted by Reza_Abdolahi View PostI dont think the yellow card issue is a problem.. we have great back ups. And our next oppenent is probably weaker then iraq. So i think we should go full force against iraq with our best possible line up despite the yellow cards.
few times the ref
few times our own stupid players
And few surprises !
as CQ said we should play every game as its our final game. You migh think oman , lebanon or even china are easy opponent but trust me in 90 minutes in asian cup anything could happen. No easy games, no matter how good we are.
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About the fatique issue.. every team in this tournament will have the same issue. our advantage is that we have good back ups
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Oh yea forgot about ashkan and cheshmi. Thanks .Originally posted by KasraKhan View PostPoint taken, but Ashkan has also played every minute, and Cheshmi hasn't seen the field either. But good post nonetheless.
I also prefer, and suspect, none of the yellow card players will start vs Iraq. MilMo for Ehsan, Torabi/JB/Karim for Taremi, and Vouria for Ramin.
I honestly don't think Hajsafi is good for that position , i prefer mimo too. I hope we see mimo against iraq, the kid is fast and physically strong.
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I dont think the yellow card issue is a problem.. we have great back ups. And our next oppenent is probably weaker then iraq. So i think we should go full force against iraq with our best possible line up despite the yellow cards.
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Point taken, but Ashkan has also played every minute, and Cheshmi hasn't seen the field either. But good post nonetheless.Originally posted by milad_b View PostAre you kidding me? No seriously do you even watch the games?
CQ have played 17 players out of 23 players in just 2 games. Who is tired? the only players that played 2 full 90 min are beiro , omid , PAJ and hajsafi . This means that 19 players have been rested at some point.
Show me one team that has managed to give playing time to 17 of its players in just 2 games. Keep in mind that the players that didn't play are abedzadeh , niazmand (2 goalkeeprs) , jahanbakhsh( injury ) , mimo and shojaei !
We will probably see mimo , jahanbakhsh , and ramin rezaeian against iraq.
The only think that worries me is the yellow cards . So far tareni ( important) and rezaeian (important) and hajsafi has been given 1 yellow card. Any other yellow card infront of iraq means these players will be out for our next match.
I also prefer, and suspect, none of the yellow card players will start vs Iraq. MilMo for Ehsan, Torabi/JB/Karim for Taremi, and Vouria for Ramin.
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And a Hajsafi yellow card means Mohammadi is back to where he belongs.Originally posted by Tehranto View PostAnd even if Ramin or Mehdi get a yellow card in the game, God forbid, we have great backups in Jahanbakhsh, Torabi or Karim for Taremi and Vouria for Ramin.
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And even if Ramin or Mehdi get a yellow card in the game, God forbid, we have great backups in Jahanbakhsh, Torabi or Karim for Taremi and Vouria for Ramin.Originally posted by milad_b View PostAre you kidding me? No seriously do you even watch the games?
CQ have played 17 players out of 23 players in just 2 games. Who is tired? the only players that played 2 full 90 min are beiro , omid , PAJ and hajsafi . This means that 19 players have been rested at some point.
Show me one team that has managed to give playing time to 17 of its players in just 2 games. Keep in mind that the players that didn't play are abedzadeh , niazmand (2 goalkeeprs) , jahanbakhsh( injury ) , mimo and shojaei !
We will probably see mimo , jahanbakhsh , and ramin rezaeian against iraq.
The only think that worries me is the yellow cards . So far tareni ( important) and rezaeian (important) and hajsafi has been given 1 yellow card. Any other yellow card infront of iraq means these players will be out for our next match.
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Are you kidding me? No seriously do you even watch the games?
CQ have played 17 players out of 23 players in just 2 games. Who is tired? the only players that played 2 full 90 min are beiro , omid , PAJ and hajsafi . This means that 19 players have been rested at some point.
Show me one team that has managed to give playing time to 17 of its players in just 2 games. Keep in mind that the players that didn't play are abedzadeh , niazmand (2 goalkeeprs) , jahanbakhsh( injury ) , mimo and shojaei !
We will probably see mimo , jahanbakhsh , and ramin rezaeian against iraq.
The only think that worries me is the yellow cards . So far tareni ( important) and rezaeian (important) and hajsafi has been given 1 yellow card. Any other yellow card infront of iraq means these players will be out for our next match.
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You don't have anything to worry about. Conditioning-wise we are by far the most fit team in the tournament. CQ has seen to that. A good example was Azmoun and Rezaeian in the World Cup. We played three elite level teams and they played 90 mins in all 3 games without any issues. Azmoun previously couldn't finish 90 mins at even an Asian level.Originally posted by persiangodfather View PostNot pointless. I said im worried about fatigue.. most of the members here say dont worry. Meaning amiri ebrahimi azmoun taremi dejahah wont get tired or over worked if we make it to the finals...
Others say okay if we have fatigue our bench is deep enough
Im not saying they are wrong. Im saying if our cm and strikers get tired and the bench isnt as deep as we think. We will be worn out. Thats why im missing ezza gholi and karimi especially
The only worry is Dejagah because he has always had fitness issues but I'm sure CQ is going to rotate him out to give him a rest in a few games. Shojaei will probably start against Iraq to give Ashkan a rest.
The only thing we need to remember is that we are the underdogs.
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Our CMs have a drop off in talent yes, but factor in that we also have one of the most fit teams in Asia.Originally posted by persiangodfather View PostNot pointless. I said im worried about fatigue.. most of the members here say dont worry. Meaning amiri ebrahimi azmoun taremi dejahah wont get tired or over worked if we make it to the finals...
Others say okay if we have fatigue our bench is deep enough
Im not saying they are wrong. Im saying if our cm and strikers get tired and the bench isnt as deep as we think. We will be worn out. Thats why im missing ezza gholi and karimi especially
Today as example, both India and Bahrains players were had to be subbed due to fatigue/injury. Its because other teams dont have our depth.
Some of them only have 2-3 key players that carry the team anyway. Their stakes are higher.
I think with a formation tweak we can even work in Cheshmi for a couple games(maybe against Iraq and R16) which will give Ebrahimi all the rest he needs.
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Not pointless. I said im worried about fatigue.. most of the members here say dont worry. Meaning amiri ebrahimi azmoun taremi dejahah wont get tired or over worked if we make it to the finals...Originally posted by Behzad12 View PostThe roster is made, the team is performing, why are we dwelling on players that aren't on the roster?
All due respect, but a misleading and pointless thread...
Others say okay if we have fatigue our bench is deep enough
Im not saying they are wrong. Im saying if our cm and strikers get tired and the bench isnt as deep as we think. We will be worn out. Thats why im missing ezza gholi and karimi especially
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The roster is made, the team is performing, why are we dwelling on players that aren't on the roster?
All due respect, but a misleading and pointless thread...
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For the CM position we also have Hajsafi, Shojaei, Ghoddos, Nourollahi and Cheshmi (who can play as DM). Next to Amiri, Dejagah and Ebrahimi. That's 8 players for 3 positions bro. Even Ansarifard can play as cm.Originally posted by persiangodfather View PostI saw a photo on pfdc twitter. Rezaei ezzatollahi gholizade and 2 others i cant remember who are injured for this.
How are we deep at cm position? Amiri and ebrahimi and dejagah will be dead tired if we go far. Also at striker positikn we have 2 strikers taremi and azmoun.
At striker position we have Azmoun, Taremi and Ansarifard. That's 3 players for 1 position. On the wings we have Jahanbakhsh, Torabi, Amiri, Ghoddos and Taremi. That's 5 players for 2 positions.
Central defence: Pouraliganji, Hosseini, Kananizadegan, Montazeri, CHeshmi
Right back: Rezaeian and Ghafouri
Left back; Mohamadi and Hajsafi
The only player which we are really missing is Ezatolahi, i agree. He is a key player, and unfortunately Ali Karimi his substitute got injured as well. However, Cheshmi can play as DM as stated before, in fact he is a better defensive midfielder than central midfielder imo.
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