Iran vs Portugal Referee, again from South America

[BacheLot]

yea man, this is utter bs...!!
everyone knows Latinos from all walks of life, favor each other and rather blatantly at that...!! and im sure this *** edited***won't be any different that the *** edited ***that whistled the Iran and Spain game..!!
CQ should lodge a complaint ...!! just to keep him on his toes..!


LANGUAGE PLZ!!!

[KC McElroy]

He loves Iran. He has been in Iran for the last 7 years. He is getting paid millions. He left Portugal on very bad terms with a lot of the administration and staff. He has tension with their star player, Ronaldo.

Believe me, he wants us to beat Portugal more than we want to.

I agree. That was the point I was making. If we are not concerned about a Portuguese man leading us against his own country then we shouldn't be concerned about a Latin American officiating our match against Portugal.

[Babak agha]

I hate the fact that they gave a Spanish speaking referee was Spain and how a Spanish speaking referee vs Portuguese.

Spanish and Portuguese are very similar. Native speakers of each language can clearly understand and speak with the other side. This what bothers me the most, basically the fact that their players can speak to the referee in a language our players wil

This is not correct, although they can understand each other to some extent it's not like they can understand each other clearly (enough for the purpose of the game though).

Brazilian and Portuguese are like Afghans and Iranians. Brazilians understand the Portuguese well but other way around, especially if they talk in their dialect is not so easy.

For Spanish is even more difficult to understand Brazilians, although they can understand Portuguese fairly well if Portuguese talk slow and clear. Portuguese understand Spanish better as they watch Spanish shows/TV.

[Babak agha]

Although I understand and to some extended shared the hesitation about the ref in our game vs Spain, I don't see it here (well Iranians being Iranian if the guy was from Venus we would come up with a conspiracy theory too).

What if the ref was an Arab, would we have preferred that over the South American one? I'm sure Portugal would have objected to the Arab ref, using the same arguments we are making here.

Beside the fact that Portugal and Portuguese are not the same as Spain and Spanish, South Americans are not Portuguese or Spanish. You could call them "Latins" just like you could call Iranians and Saudis Middle Easterns.

If any South Americans were conolized by Spain and Portugal and they don't really like that/them since they're like down upon by Spanish and Portuguese.

I wouldn't worry about the guy being in favor of Portugal, if any South Americans like is more as they feel more connected to us (being the underdogs and not part of the"West") than an European team.

I worry more about him being instructed to make sure that Russia and Portugal have to win (but then again, I've watched Daei Jan Napoleon many times)

[Persian-Pride87]

I hate the fact that they gave a Spanish speaking referee was Spain and how a Spanish speaking referee vs Portuguese.

Spanish and Portuguese are very similar. Native speakers of each language can clearly understand and speak with the other side. This what bothers me the most, basically the fact that their players can speak to the referee in a language our players will not understand.

Anyway, regardless, I think we have to overcome both Portugal and Fifa in our final match. Fifa stands to lose a lot of money if their golden goose Ronaldo does not get to play in the knockout rounds. It would be a big financial loss for Fifa to have Iran play in the last 16 as opposed to a Ronaldo led Portugal.

I expect dubious calls against us by the referee tomorrow, regardless of his ethnicity/native language.

[Tehranto]

Scars from Cristiano Ronaldo past with Carlos Queiroz could resurface as Portugal face Iran in crucial World Cup game

If there is one man with a real inkling about how best to interrupt Cristiano Ronaldo’s imperial march through this World Cup, it is a 65-year-old manager meticulously preparing to combat Portugal on Monday evening.

Carlos Queiroz, the long-serving manager of an Iran side who need to beat the Portuguese to leapfrog them in Group B, has guided Ronaldo’s career as boy and man.

Queiroz has seen all sides of him: the prodigy who needed the right guidance and nurture, and indeed protection; and also the highly-strung, ultra competitive and critical senior player who does not hide his irritation when those around him do not set standards as elevated as his own.

Queiroz, a Mozambique-born Portuguese citizen, started out in coaching in Portugal, specialising in youth development. But he has been a wanderer to all parts for most of his career. He first knew of Ronaldo as a gifted kid from Madeira who had been scooped up into Sporting Club’s famed academy in Lisbon.

Queiroz was once a Sporting manager. By the time Ronaldo was making his precocious way in the game, Queiroz was working at the grandest clubs of Europe, Manchester United and Real Madrid. It was he who, while deputy to Alex Ferguson at United, recommended that Ronaldo be signed with no delay.

It was a fabulously fruitful piece of advice, and Queiroz and Ronaldo developed a close bond in Manchester, too close in the eyes of some United players. This was at least according to accounts of a hot-tempered exchange former United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy once had with Ronaldo, implying Queiroz showed favouritism towards the Portuguese player.

Van Nistelrooy was the aggressor in that case, and if United’s coaches were paternal in their dealings with the young Ronaldo, they were doing so with player’s well-being at heart.

Queiroz has a long and mixed history with the World Cup. He guided Portugal’s Under 20 side to wins in the youth version of the competition twice, in the late 1980s and early 1990s, but failed to take the seniors to the 1994 tournament in the United States.

He qualified South Africa for the 2002 finals, but lost the job before that tournament kicked off. His growing reputation as a club manager led Portugal to ask him to take over their seniors again in 2008.

He made Ronaldo his permanent captain immediately. But the partnership had its tensions. Ronaldo scored no goals in a stuttering World Cup qualifying campaign, indeed had gone 16 months without an international goal when Portugal reached South Africa for the 2010 finals, via a play-off.

Portugal made the last-16 stage - Ronaldo broke his drought in a 7-0 thrashing of North Korea - but there they lost to Spain. The Portugal captain was asked immediately after the defeat what had gone wrong.

Pointedly, he said: “Ask Queiroz.”

Ronaldo never played again under Queiroz, who lingered as Portugal manager for another few months. He and Ronaldo these days talk of their mutual respect, but there are a few men in the current Portugal team who recall the Queiroz era without much joy.

Take Pepe, the central defender. He spoke about problems in the Portugal camp in 2010 once the manager had departed. Queiroz snapped back.

“Pepe should keep quiet,” Queiroz told Portuguese media, adding, quotably. “He reminds me of a bad actor in a Brazilian soap opera.”

https://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/scars-from-cristiano-ronaldo-past-with-carlos-queiroz-could-resurface-as-portugal-face-iran-in-crucial-world-cup-game-1.743579

[Tehranto]

If this is truly what we find concerning then we should be horrified that against Portugal we are being lead by a Portuguese man.

He loves Iran. He has been in Iran for the last 7 years. He is getting paid millions. He left Portugal on very bad terms with a lot of the administration and staff. He has tension with their star player, Ronaldo.

Believe me, he wants us to beat Portugal more than we want to.

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Ronaldo faces friend-turned-foe when he takes on 'dad' Carlos Queiroz and Iran in World Cup

MOSCOW -- Men's football is a game of fathers and sons, biological and adopted, real and imagined. Monday night's game in Saransk between Iran and Portugal is a loser-loses-it-all clash for the right to advance to the last 16.

Portugal advance with a win or draw, Iran with a win.

But the high-stakes match in the capital of Mordovia also pits two compatriots against each other who were once so close that Team Melli coach Carlos Queiroz was referred to as Cristiano Ronaldo's "dad" by his then Manchester United teammate Ruud van Nistelrooy. For one game, they are united only in their grim determination to deny each other historic greatness.

Queiroz's energetic, tactically astute side are the latest obstacle four-time-scorer Ronaldo needs to overcome in the improbable, if not impossible quest to impose his genius on the World Cup and take an otherwise unremarkable team to their greatest glory.

Iran's dreams are more modest but no less heartfelt. Qualification for the second round would be a widely hailed first and undoubtedly trigger more mixed-sex street celebrations the government frowns upon but will be powerless to stop. TV footage from female Iranian fans in Russian stadiums have opened the floodgates back in Tehran, as women fought off an official prohibition to watch live footage of the narrow, unlucky 1-0 defeat against Spain in Kazan.

Going into his second World Cup with the Islamic Republic, Mozambique-born Queiroz was being feted as "Mr. Football Nation" and "The Father of Success."

"In my seven-year career [in Iran], the Portugal match is the most interesting and important match for me," Queiroz said ahead of travelling to Saransk. To increase his sky-high popularity levels even further, he must defeat the individual might of a friend turned foe.

Queiroz used to manage Sporting in the mid-'90s before taking on a role as Alex Ferguson's assistant and advising him to buy a prodigious, 18-year-old winger. Cristiano Ronaldo's transfer to Old Trafford was brokered in Queiroz's apartment in Lisbon. "I felt it was my duty as a friend and coach and [I] do not regret it," the 65-year-old said after the 2014 World Cup.

In Guillem Balague's "Ronaldo" biography, Queiroz explains how he helped the young talent to fulfill his potential by pushing him to be more of a goal-scorer and to simplify his game. Their relationship was so strong at United that Van Nistelrooy, who fell out with the winger over his habit of holding on to the ball too long on the wing, flippantly told Ronaldo to talk to his "dad" Queiroz in a training argument in May 2006.

The Portuguese forward took that remark particularly badly, having lost his father to liver cirrhosis eight months earlier. Van Nistelrooy had picked a fight he couldn't win. The Dutchman was shipped out to Real Madrid soon after.

When Queiroz took over Portugal as national coach in 2008, he immediately named Ronaldo and lavished him with public praise. "Cristiano is a champion and, as a player, he is Superman," Queiroz said. "In terms of his mental approach to the game, he is so strong and so confident."

But Queiroz's defensive set-up and lack of emotional connection with the squad proved kryptonite for the national team's results and his friendship with the nation's star player. Ronaldo scored a single goal in 16 months of laboured performances. Following the country's elimination at the hands of Iberian rivals Spain at the last 16 stage in South Africa, Ronaldo answered a question about the reasons for defeat with a curt, "Ask Queiroz."

"We didn't speak after that," the manager said. "I would be a hypocrite if I said that I liked his comments."

Ronaldo was not called up to the national team again until Queiroz was fired in September 2010. According to Portuguese sources, mutual resentment still lingers. In an interview with FIFA.com in February, Queiroz spoke of "memories of shared projects" but pointedly refused to offer any olive branch to his former player.

There's a small possibility this intra-Portuguese duel could end with both men and their teams going through -- if Portugal lose and Spain were to lose by a bigger margin against Morocco -- but it's much more likely that football will borrow a compelling storyline from another genre on Monday night: that of an intensely personal battle between the master and his erstwhile apprentice.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/3542672/ronaldo-friend-turned-foe-when-he-faces-dad-carlos-queiroz-and-iran-in-world-cup

[mahestan]

Guys, as much as I was a little surprised to see another south american referee. Let's take a step back and chillax a little bit. For one these are FIFA certified referees. Therefore we can be assured that they are qualified. Secondly everything is televised in 4k quality and we have replays available. If the referee is unjust the entire world will know and he will definitely be reprimanded. The next point is, Portuguese do not speak Spanish and they don't have much in common with Hispanics, especially south Americans which are practically on the other side of the world. Let me give you a great example to demonstrate this. An iranian referee, such as Faghani for example. To an outsider if he was to ref a match with Egypt for example people would say (oh he's from the middle east) so he will the Egypt's side (since Egypt is very close). Now although the example is not exaclty the same, I'm sure you get the point. Persians are not even fans of Arabs to begin with haha. So anyway, stop thinking conspiracy and let's cheer on TM. We love them!

Spain and Portugal are somewhat racisit toward the Southern Americans anyways. Our fate is in our own hands. If TM wants to advance, they gotta create more chances and capitalize on it.

[Kian Persepolis]

Guys, as much as I was a little surprised to see another south american referee. Let's take a step back and chillax a little bit. For one these are FIFA certified referees. Therefore we can be assured that they are qualified. Secondly everything is televised in 4k quality and we have replays available. If the referee is unjust the entire world will know and he will definitely be reprimanded. The next point is, Portuguese do not speak Spanish and they don't have much in common with Hispanics, especially south Americans which are practically on the other side of the world. Let me give you a great example to demonstrate this. An iranian referee, such as Faghani for example. To an outsider if he was to ref a match with Egypt for example people would say (oh he's from the middle east) so he will the Egypt's side (since Egypt is very close). Now although the example is not exaclty the same, I'm sure you get the point. Persians are not even fans of Arabs to begin with haha. So anyway, stop thinking conspiracy and let's cheer on TM. We love them!

I don't want to give negative vibes, but Ben Williams and Milorad Mazic were both FIFA certified refs. Mazic was voted worst referee of the 2014 World Cup, yet here he is again, at the 2018 World Cup......

[scuderia]

Guys, as much as I was a little surprised to see another south american referee. Let's take a step back and chillax a little bit. For one these are FIFA certified referees. Therefore we can be assured that they are qualified. Secondly everything is televised in 4k quality and we have replays available. If the referee is unjust the entire world will know and he will definitely be reprimanded. The next point is, Portuguese do not speak Spanish and they don't have much in common with Hispanics, especially south Americans which are practically on the other side of the world. Let me give you a great example to demonstrate this. An iranian referee, such as Faghani for example. To an outsider if he was to ref a match with Egypt for example people would say (oh he's from the middle east) so he will the Egypt's side (since Egypt is very close). Now although the example is not exaclty the same, I'm sure you get the point. Persians are not even fans of Arabs to begin with haha. So anyway, stop thinking conspiracy and let's cheer on TM. We love them!

[mahestan]

If this is truly what we find concerning then we should be horrified that against Portugal we are being lead by a Portuguese man.

Maybe we should get Ben Williams come ref the game.

[milad_b]

I dono if we can be happy or not but Enrique Caceres is the ref that took away penalty from egypt in favor for russia. The question is does russia want to play against us or portugal ?

[persianballer]

If this is truly what we find concerning then we should be horrified that against Portugal we are being lead by a Portuguese man.

Or we should be happy as he knows the team?

[KC McElroy]

If this is truly what we find concerning then we should be horrified that against Portugal we are being lead by a Portuguese man.

[Essi]

Once again, another latino. The Problem referee from Russia Egypt.

داور مسئله دار؛ قاضی ایران - پرتغال!(عکس)

فیفا در حالی داور پاراگوئه ای را برای بازی ایران و پرتغال در جنگ سرنوشت گروه B انتخاب کرد که هنوز جنجال ها روی قضاوت او در دیدار روسیه با مصر پایان نیافته است.

به گزارش "ورزش سه"، انریکه کاسرس 44 ساله در حالی به عنوان داور بازی ایران با پرتغال انتخاب شد که این داور پاراگوئه ای قضاوت پرحرف و حدیثی در اولین تجربه خود در جام جهانی 2018 داشت. دیدار روسیه میزبان با مصری ها در ورزشگاه سن پترزبورگ در حالی با برتری 3-1 تزارها توام شد که فراعنه حذف زودهنگام خود از جام را به قضاوت ضعیف این داور ربط دادند.


بعد از این بازی اتحادیه فوتبال مصر با تنظیم شکایت رسمی و ارسال آن به کمیته داوران فیفا نسبت به قضاوت کاسرس واکنش نشان داد و مدعی شد داور پاراگوئه ای در چند صحنه علیه مصر سوت زد که کلیدی ترین صحنه به گل دوم روسیه و نگرفتن خطای واضح مهاجم میزبان روی مدافع مصر بود، جایی که کمک داور ویدئویی VAR می توانست به کاسرس برای گرفتن تصمیم درست کمک کند.




ابو ریدا رئیس اتحادیه فوتبال مصر در واکنش به این اتفاق گفت:« حق شکایت برای مصری ها زنده است و قطعا آنها نسبت به قضاوت ضعیف این داور و کمک هایش پیگیری های لازم را انجام خواهند داد». نکته جالب این که مصری ها با تیمی ویژه از کارشناسان داوری این کشور گزارش تحقیقاتی خود را به همراه شکایت رسمی برای فیفا ارسال کردند و خواستار برخورد با این داور پاراگوئه ای شدند.


انریکه کاسرس در بازی روسیه با مصر علاوه بر تمام صحنه هایی که مصری ها به آن اعتراض داشتند در هنگام اعلام ضربه پنالتی به سود مصر هم با تردیدهایی روبرو بود تا جایی که VAR به داد او رسید تا خطا روی صلاح پنالتی اعلام شود. بعد از این بود که رسانه های معتبر دنیا در تحلیل عملکرد این داور پاراگوئه ای یکی از ضعیف ترین نمرات را به او دادند تا انتخاب این داور و کمک هایش برای جدال ایران و پرتغال با نگرانی های زیادی برای کی روش و فدراسیون فوتبال ایران توام باشد.