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    Harsh offside ruling on Iran Goal!?

    Offside rules include many articles and notes; some quite complicated.
    Iran's goal ruled offside could be among those examples where the Iranian player moves out of the offside position before getting the ball and scoring a goal.
    It could depend on the referees whether to give priority to the initial offside position of the player or that he moved out before scoring from an onside position:

    Since offside is judged at the time the ball is touched or played by a teammate, not when the player receives the ball, it is possible for a player to receive the ball significantly past the second-to-last opponent, or even the last opponent, without committing an offence. This used to be expressed in the Law by International Board Decision 1 to Law 11 using the following phrase, "A player who is not in an off-side position when one of his colleagues passes the ball to him or takes a free-kick, does not therefore become off-side if he goes forward during the flight of the ball." https://ssbra.solidwebworks.com/ifab...df/1997min.pdf
    Determining whether a player is "involved in active play" can be complex. The quote, "If he's not interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch?"
    In an effort to avoid such criticisms, which were based on the fact that phrases such as "interfering with play", "interfering with an opponent" and "gaining an advantage" were not clearly defined, FIFA issued new guidelines for interpreting the offside law in 2003 and these were incorporated into Law 11 in July 2005. The new wording sought to define the three cases more precisely, but a number of football associations and confederations continued to request more information about what movements a player in an offside position could make without interfering with an opponent. In response to these requests IFAB circular 3 was issued in 2015 to provide additional guidance on the criteria for interfering with an opponent. This additional guidance is now included in the main body of the law and forms the last 3 conditions under the heading "Interfering with an opponent" as shown above. The circular also contained additional guidance on the meaning of a save, in the context of a ball that has "been deliberately saved by any opponent." http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...11_v2.0_EN.pdf

    #2
    This was 50-50 IMO and the ref again scared of Spain conceding raised the flag and the rest was history !

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      #3
      m8 it was pretty clear, and with VAR looking at it on video in slow motion there is no question it is offside the way the rules are written and interpreted.

      Now you can say that there was no unfair advantage but if that ruling goes into place, then how do we determine what is fair and what is unfair? if a slow player is only a little bit offiside then its not unfair because the fast player can catch up? rules in football need to be clear so they can be fairly interpreted quickly. You draw the line and say he is ahead of the defender so it is offside. What you are saying is we need to have a murder trial for every offisde call and have a judge and jury decide if the call is "fair." That is not realistic.

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        #4
        No rhyme this time Iranman?
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          #5
          According to the rules it was offside , we were just unlucky that linesman decided to giveback it cos he was unsure.

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            #6
            It was Spain so they were gonna do everything they can

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              #7
              Forget the offside (which it certainly was) Ian committed a hands foul and should have received a yellow too.

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                #8
                He wasn't offside on the initial free kick (though Hosseini was if you argue he was "interfering with play").

                However Azmoun got his head to the ball, and at that point Ezatolahi was clearly far offside.

                Even if VAR didn't exist, the linesman flagged, so it was never going to be a goal.

                The BBC highlights show a great close-up: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44439093

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                  #9
                  Saeed was not in offside position when ball was kicked. However one Iran player’s head contacted the ball before it hit Saeed at which point he was in an offside position. Unfortunately the call itself was right. It is just that without VAR micromanaging every inch of the play this would have never been called.

                  As CQ said, where was the VAR 4 years ago to call the penalty against Argentina.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by khodam View Post
                    Saeed was not in offside position when ball was kicked. However one Iran player’s head contacted the ball before it hit Saeed at which point he was in an offside position. Unfortunately the call itself was right. It is just that without VAR micromanaging every inch of the play this would have never been called.

                    As CQ said, where was the VAR 4 years ago to call the penalty against Argentina.
                    The linesman raised his flag immediately when the goal went in, as they're instructed to now.

                    They just used VAR in case it was onside, they gave us every chance.

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                      #11
                      technically, it was kind of offside. Too close to call if slow-mo was to be ignored.
                      But without the VAR (which I am a proponent of and am glad fifa has allowed VAR) many refs wouldnt have given it.

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