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[yashar_fasihnia]

Honestly I don't understand why everyone is freaking out. It's not like he left Jahanbaksh or MilMo off the list. While I didn't foresee Jalal being left off, it's honestly not a bad gamble. Here are my thoughts on the list:

Jalal: Yes he has been our defensive leader for the past 7 or 8 years, but he is 36 and coming off injury. No way he can play all three games and thats not good for a defense that needs to gel. From what I have seen from Majid Hosseini I have been very impressed. I believe he has been impressive in training as well. If he and PAG can gel in the next couple friendlies I think its a smart move and sets us up well for the future. Majid + Taha will be our starting defense for a decade.

Kaveh: I've been saying this for the past month. Kaveh is a much more dynamic and stronger forward than Gucci is at this point in there careers. BUT, neither will start. As a 15 minute substitute CQ trust Gucci more than anyone and who can blame him. Kaveh wasn't going to play much, if at all, anyway. Why take a player just to take him?

Vouria: Maybe the most puzzling omission, but I think CQ has his mind made up that Rezaeian would start and more defensive minded players like Khanzadeh could be used as a RB if needed. There was always going to be some difficult cuts and the similarity between Vouria and Ramin made this cut possible.

In the end, I understand why CQ made these moves. It sends a message to the players, play well and anything can happen. I trust CQ.

Vouria has been the best player in IPL past few months, so i dont think that message applies to Vouria.

while the omission of other 3 players (jalal, kaveh and hossein hosseini) can somehow be understood, Vouria's omission as the leagues best player past few months specially when u consider:
- he hasnt been in any hashie (unlike hossein hosseini)
- he hasnt had any injury (unlike jalal hosseini)
- he doesnt have a lot of competition (unlike Kaveh and Jalal)
- he isnt too young and inexperienced (like hossein hosseini) or too old (like jalal hosseini)
- he has been in the form of his life and helping his club play both as right defender and right midfielder when needed and infact scoring crucial goals in big games which shows his gheyrat and ability to not collapse under pressure or under bad refereeing (which many of our players cant cope with) and this is exactly wat we need against Spain and Portugal!


WHAT ELSE SHOULD VOURIA HAVE DONE?? Dige chikar bayad mikard ke bere jame jahani ATLEAST AS A SUB??!!

while its easy for us to sit at our laptops and argue over this, I personally cant imagine how Vouria is feeling right now... I think he deserves more than this.

[The Farbod]

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Vouria has been the best player in IPL past few months, so i dont think that message applies to Vouria.

while the omission of other 3 players (jalal, kaveh and hossein hosseini) can somehow be understood, Vouria's omission as the leagues best player past few months specially when u consider:
- he hasnt been in any hashie (unlike hossein hosseini)
- he hasnt had any injury (unlike jalal hosseini)
- he doesnt have a lot of competition (unlike Kaveh and Jalal)
- he isnt too young and inexperienced (like hossein hosseini) or too old (like jalal hosseini)
- he has been in the form of his life and helping his club play both as right defender and right midfielder when needed and infact scoring crucial goals in big games which shows his gheyrat and ability to not collapse under pressure or under bad refereeing (which many of our players cant cope with) and this is exactly wat we need against Spain and Portugal!


WHAT ELSE SHOULD VOURIA HAVE DONE?? Dige chikar bayad mikard ke bere jame jahani ATLEAST AS A SUB??!!

while its easy for us to sit at our laptops and argue over this, I personally cant imagine how Vouria is feeling right now... I think he deserves more than this.

At what position? Not at a position that he’s going to make TM playing. I’ve seen Vouria play dozens of times. He’s always been a fringe TM player at best. I don’t care how good you are in Iran, that league is shit. If that league meant anything Alipour would have gotten more than a 5 minute call up.

Look around the world. Dozens and dozens of very good players are left off their countries’ lists because the respective coaches made judgement calls. Vouria deserves better? For what? GTFO

The only people that are mad about these cuts are deranged Persepolis and Esteghlal fans that think their players are better than they really are. Get a grip.


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[yashar_fasihnia]

At what position? Not at a position that he’s going to make TM playing.

As RB.

I’ve seen Vouria play dozens of times. He’s always been a fringe TM player at best.

and how many superstar RBs have u seen play in TM from the current squad?? Ramin Rezayian is just 1 player and a worldcup squad needs more than 1 player. so yea, how many amazing RBs have u seen in TM that justifies the fringe Vouri's ommittance?

this is wat Iranian Football currently has to offer! we dont have lahm and carvajal waiting in line!

I don’t care how good you are in Iran, that league is shit.

yet, this is wat us say in ur previous post "In the end, I understand why CQ made these moves. It sends a message to the players, play well and anything can happen. I trust CQ."
which is exactly wat Vouria has done. lol make up ur mind first before taking cheap shots such as only SS and PP fans are mad...

If that league meant anything Alipour would have gotten more than a 5 minute call up.

next time, read my post before replying. i said certain players like kaveh were cut off because of extreme competition for that spot. same goes for alipour. we have 50 strikers competing for the same spot. same for GK and CB position. So it can be understood as personal choice although debatable. hate to say it but Kaveh is SS and Alipour is PP, so ur cheap shot is really void

but RB position? plz do me a favour and name me 2 other RBs (besides Ramin Rezayan) who have impressed u from the "shitty IPL" or the La Liga/Premier League/Bundesliga/Calcio A where all our superstar RBs are currently playing in (lol). Thanks!

Look around the world. Dozens and dozens of very good players are left off their countries’ lists because the respective coaches made judgement calls. Vouria deserves better? For what? GTFO

lacazette left out cos France has 50 other strikers (Mbappe, Griezman, Dembele, Giroud, Fakir)
Icardi left out of Argentina cos Argentina has 50 other strikers (Dybala, Higuain, Messi, Aguero)
Gotze left out of Germany cos he is not in form and Germany has Muller, Draxler, Reus, Ozil, Sane

should i go on???

now ur turn. look around and tell me who is Vouria competing with for RB position?

The only people that are mad about these cuts are deranged Persepolis and Esteghlal fans that think their players are better than they really are. Get a grip.

Lol cheap shot by someone who wants to accept pigs fly at all costs. but just to relieve u off ur pain, i dont believe Khanzadeh or Montazeri have been good enough to be in TM.



now back to ur previous post and my question which u didnt answer yet:

In the end, I understand why CQ made these moves. It sends a message to the players, play well and anything can happen. I trust CQ.

Wat should have Vouria done besides be the best IPL player in the second half of the season, turn up in big games and even score goals and save his team, avoid any hashie, avoid any injury, and be neither too young or too old? unless this message doesnt apply to Vouria as an exception???

infact omitting Vouria without a proper explanation totally contradicts this message that for some of u, even if ur the best player in ur league (which 70% of TM comes from), even if u dont have hashie, even if ur not too young or too old, even if we dont have any other players in ur position, u will still not go to the worldcup. Hence my point, I wonder how Vouria is feeling right now and wat else should he have done to be able to go to the worldcup?

[Saam]

As RB.


and how many superstar RBs have u seen play in TM from the current squad?? Ramin Rezayian is just 1 player and a worldcup squad needs more than 1 player. so yea, how many amazing RBs have u seen in TM that justifies the fringe Vouri's ommittance?

this is wat Iranian Football currently has to offer! we dont have lahm and carvajal waiting in line!


yet, this is wat us say in ur previous post "In the end, I understand why CQ made these moves. It sends a message to the players, play well and anything can happen. I trust CQ."
which is exactly wat Vouria has done. lol make up ur mind first before taking cheap shots such as only SS and PP fans are mad...


next time, read my post before replying. i said certain players like kaveh were cut off because of extreme competition for that spot. same goes for alipour. we have 50 strikers competing for the same spot. same for GK and CB position. So it can be understood as personal choice although debatable. hate to say it but Kaveh is SS and Alipour is PP, so ur cheap shot is really void

but RB position? plz do me a favour and name me 2 other RBs (besides Ramin Rezayan) who have impressed u from the "shitty IPL" or the La Liga/Premier League/Bundesliga/Calcio A where all our superstar RBs are currently playing in (lol). Thanks!


lacazette left out cos France has 50 other strikers (Mbappe, Griezman, Dembele, Giroud, Fakir)
Icardi left out of Argentina cos Argentina has 50 other strikers (Dybala, Higuain, Messi, Aguero)
Gotze left out of Germany cos he is not in form and Germany has Muller, Draxler, Reus, Ozil, Sane

should i go on???

now ur turn. look around and tell me who is Vouria competing with for RB position?


Lol cheap shot by someone who wants to accept pigs fly at all costs. but just to relieve u off ur pain, i dont believe Khanzadeh or Montazeri have been good enough to be in TM.



now back to ur previous post and my question which u didnt answer yet:


Wat should have Vouria done besides be the best IPL player in the second half of the season, turn up in big games and even score goals and save his team, avoid any hashie, avoid any injury, and be neither too young or too old? unless this message doesnt apply to Vouria as an exception???

infact omitting Vouria without a proper explanation totally contradicts this message that for some of u, even if ur the best player in ur league (which 70% of TM comes from), even if u dont have hashie, even if ur not too young or too old, even if we dont have any other players in ur position, u will still not go to the worldcup. Hence my point, I wonder how Vouria is feeling right now and wat else should he have done to be able to go to the worldcup?

As good as Vouria has been, CQ needs only one offensive RB. He is planning to play Pejman (who played very well in that position last world cup) or Khanzadeh as RB in situations where they are gonna stay back as essentially a 3rd CB. If he needs an offensive RB he calls on Rezaeian and if he needs his 3rd CB he calls on the aforementioned two. This is why he excluded Vouria because we didnt have room for two offensive RBs in a small squad of 23. I believe this is why he missed out. I personally would prefer Rezaeian over Vouria for the offensive right back position.

[Bagg10]

As good as Vouria has been, CQ needs only one offensive RB. He is planning to play Pejman (who played very well in that position last world cup) or Khanzadeh as RB in situations where they are gonna stay back as essentially a 3rd CB. If he needs an offensive RB he calls on Rezaeian and if he needs his 3rd CB he calls on the aforementioned two. This is why he excluded Vouria because we didnt have room for two offensive RBs in a small squad of 23. I believe this is why he missed out. I personally would prefer Rezaeian over Vouria for the offensive right back position.

I think he's also thinking of using Gholizadeh as a right or left wingback/ offensive fullback as well.

[Saam]

I think he's also thinking of using Gholizadeh as a right or left wingback/ offensive fullback as well.

Left. If Hajsafi is the left sided midfielder in a 4-3-3 then Gholizadeh/Mohammadi have a lot of cover. If he plays two offensive right-sided players like karim and alireza, then we need someone who will always stay back on the right aka khanzadeh/montazeri.

[tiesto]

just saw a video of CQ jokingly testing the players to see if they had shin guards on by hitting them in the shins with a stick lol ... when Dejageh went to get tested he had to lift his leg with his hand and holding it on the side - it honestly seemed that he was struggling a bit ...

Vid is posted on IG teammelli account ... anyone see what I see?

[tiesto]

Also who is #19?

[yashar_fasihnia]

As good as Vouria has been, CQ needs only one offensive RB. He is planning to play Pejman (who played very well in that position last world cup) or Khanzadeh as RB in situations where they are gonna stay back as essentially a 3rd CB. If he needs an offensive RB he calls on Rezaeian and if he needs his 3rd CB he calls on the aforementioned two. This is why he excluded Vouria because we didnt have room for two offensive RBs in a small squad of 23. I believe this is why he missed out. I personally would prefer Rezaeian over Vouria for the offensive right back position.

assuming this is indeed wat Queiroz plans to do and ur interpretation Queiroz's plans are right, he can mention it. However Queiroz justified his decision by saying the reason Vouria is omitted because he played RM in SS (in some matches). this reasoning is not convincing for anyone.

I dont think Pejman or Khanzadeh will be able to keep up with the pace and passing of the Spanish and Portugueese players on our right side but anyways i guess its Queiroz decision.

P.S. pejman montazeri has been so out of form, and error prone this year in SS and he is not the same player as 4 years ago, i really hope Queiroz doesnt start him

[Bagg10]

Left. If Hajsafi is the left sided midfielder in a 4-3-3 then Gholizadeh/Mohammadi have a lot of cover. If he plays two offensive right-sided players like karim and alireza, then we need someone who will always stay back on the right aka khanzadeh/montazeri.

Yeah, I saw Gholizadeh playing on the left in the Uzbekistan game. I saw him playing on the right in the Sierra Leone game, though. So I assumed he could play either side.

[Saam]

assuming this is indeed wat Queiroz plans to do and ur interpretation Queiroz's plans are right, he can mention it. However Queiroz justified his decision by saying the reason Vouria is omitted because he played RM in SS (in some matches). this reasoning is not convincing for anyone.

pejman montazeri has been out of form, and error prone this year in SS and he is not the same player as 4 years ago, but in any case, i guess its Queiroz decision.

Why would he mention it bro? To give our opponents a preview of exactly how he is going to line up against them? Also, doesn't what I just explained (if true) clarify his reasoning that Vouria practiced an offensive style this season and that is exactly why he did not make it to the squad? Because he and Rezaeian are the same type of RB and he can only take one of them. I think it puts the omission into perspective, at least for me.

[Saam]

Yeah, I saw Gholizadeh playing on the left in the Uzbekistan game. I saw him playing on the right in the Sierra Leone game, though. So I assumed he could play either side.

Ya, he is a left-footed right midfielder. I am sure Queiroz was testing him in the Uzbekistan game for the new role he had for him. If you remember, he didn't feature after the Sierra Leone game then was brought back for the Uzbekistan game. Queiroz must have been pondering over tactics and wanted to test him out in the new offensive LB role. He obviously passed the test.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Why would he mention it bro? To give our opponents a preview of exactly how he is going to line up against them? Also, doesn't what I just explained (if true) clarify his reasoning that Vouria practiced an offensive style this season and that is exactly why he did not make it to the squad? Because he and Rezaeian are the same type of RB and he can only take one of them. I think it puts the omission into perspective, at least for me.

wat u explained is not a secret tactic and our opponents coaches will for sure know wat type of players ramin rezayian, pejman montazeri or mohammad reza khanzade are. u think if u and i can figure this out, world class coaches of Spain and Portugal cant? i dont think queiroz saying i prefer to have CB-RB dual post defenders over offensive RBs is some tactical genius info that should remain top secret. like u said, Pejman played RB in last worldcup and there are enough games of TM and club games that Spain and Portugal coaches can analyze and figure it out.


and yes, wat u mentioned does does give Queiroz the benefit of the doubt but the issue is, when u dont provide a proper reasoning and just say vouria played RM in some SS games, it creates this hysteria, confusion and unwanted hashie around TM and for the players theselves.

[Saam]

wat u explained is not a secret tactic and our opponents coaches will for sure know wat type of players ramin rezayian, pejman montazeri or mohammad reza khanzade are. u think if u and i can figure this out, world class coaches of Spain and Portugal cant? i dont think queiroz saying i prefer to have CB-RB dual post defenders over offensive RBs is some tactical genius info that should remain top secret. like u said, Pejman played RB in last worldcup and there are enough games of TM and club games that Spain and Portugal coaches can analyze and figure it out.

and yes, wat u mentioned does explain a view or a reasoning Queiroz could be using for omitting Vouria but the issue is, when u dont provide a proper reasoning and just say vouria played RM in some SS games, it creates this hysteria, confusion and unwanted hashie around TM and for the players theselves.

Lol bro I get that anyone with basic logic can figure out his plans, but why would he go out and say "I need only one offensive RB because I need a player who sits back on the right side." Not only is this dumb and would never come out of any coach's mouth, but he really doesn't owe anyone any kind of explanation like that. I for one think that he shouldn't have even gone that far in elaborating on why he excluded Vouria. A simple "I picked the RBs based on our tactical needs" would have been more than enough and he didn't owe anyone anything more.

So while I agree with you that he shouldn't have provided that explanation, I disagree that his comment created hashieh; blame the low IQ club fans and the haters in Iran for creating the hashieh. Any normal fanbase would just accept it rather than causing drama before the tournament.

[saadat_abad]

I don't know if posted yet but here is a good video explaining why CQ crossed off Vouria, Seyed Jalal, and hosseini.
Also a funny moment with Taremi and Azmoun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHH48C27qYU