Iran vs Russia Player Ratings | Post Match Discussion

[inarsenewetrust]

Also lets not forget that Belgium tied russia, Chile , only lost to Portugal and Mexico by 1 goal . Generally they are difficult to play against. 1-1 without our two best players (Milad and Dejagah ) getting tied by a dumb defensive error in the 80th minute is totally respectable

[inarsenewetrust]

these two games have been great, have highlighted the weaknesses and strengths in our team and now we have ample time to address before WC.

GK - Disappointed with CQ for not trying out mazaheri. Russia game basically summed beiranvand up in 90 mins. Can make spectacular stops , launch great counters due to his incredible physique, but is shaky on exits and being able to catch/ parry to the sides. I guess for better or worse he will be our WC keeper. All we can do is pray PP GK coach sorts him out before WC.

Defensively, we have great options at RB, and at CB . Ghafouri and Ramin are neck and neck. PAG, Hosseini, Cheshmi, and Montazeri when he is fit are all equally capable of starting in the WC. Thats excellent news bc cb next to PAG was a spot of concern before these friendlies due to injury worries of jalal and pejman. Clearly at LB we do not have an adequate back up for Milad. Hajsafi was horrible there. So we need milad to be fit, bottom line. At least now we know we cant rely on anybody else for that post currently.

Midfield - Ezatolahi was improving in club form, and hopefully he continues that for the whole season. Currently he is still not in good form. Alongside him it is now clear that ebrahimi is not at the level required. Same goes for imani, abdollahzadeh. So that means this second central midfield spot is really concerning, as we kind of knew before. I guess Hajsafi is the best option here but he is garbage in this position as well. I have no clue what CQ will do here . Anybody have any suggestions ???

We need Dejagah. Nobody else can keep the ball for TM , these two matches have proven his importance if it was still in question by some members. He needs to find a team so that he will be fit and not get injured when he starts training/playing in highly competitive TM environment after months of inactivity.

Offensively - Taremi and Azmoun are our best players. Time we started getting fully behind them even though taremi is more than semi retarded and Sardar acts like a spoiled child most of the time. ARJ is out of it, and honestly needs to benched. Given ghoddos 's form in Europe, he probably should now be starting and getting bed in with the team. Torabi has proven he can be useful off the bench, and Karim and Kaveh are also both good options from the bench as well.

So, after the analysis of Togo and Russia games , two excellent friendlies which tested us, I think our WC lineup should be this.

-------------------------Beiranvand--------

Ramin/Ghafouri----PAG------Hosseini/montazeri/Cheshmi-------Milad

-----------------Ezatolahi------------Hajsafi---------

---Ghoddos---------------Dejagah-----------------Taremi

-------------------------Azmoun-------------------

Bench : -Haghighi,
---------- Ramin/Ghafouri
---------- 2 of Montazeri,Cheshmi, Hosseini
---------- ARJ
---------- Ansarifard/Kaveh Rezaei
---------- Ali Karimi / Omid Ebrahimi

[Shantaram]

Lack of chemistry. Same happens in most organized football teams I've played for and others can probably attest. You get used to where certain teammates will go and what they will do. You have "favorite players" to pass to. When a new team member arrives, it takes time for the team to start reading where he will go and what he is thinking. Their first instinct is to pass where they know someone is standing. Often, even though it is not purposeful, the new player can seem invisible to you on the field.
Iran is a team that wants to win. They are not trying to bully or refuse to pass to Ghoddos. If they were, you know CQ would never call them up again for such unprofessional behavior. They are just not used to him in the team. When they play with him more, they will begin to notice his run pattern, and he will get more passes. I see this with many "new" players on teams. It takes a little while for teammates to anticipate their movements and pass to them. A few more games and we should be good. Thankfully Saman joined early enough, and if we have some quality friendlies, he will be gelled into the squad before Russia. He will be a major asset. The guy can play, and I can see him establishing himself over Amiri on the LW going into the WC.

Thank you bro for your insightful thoughts. I was just so frustrated today when he didn't get a single chance to show what he can do with the ball. I really hope he will be united with the squad soon so we can use his full potential. He really can become a key player for TM just like Taremi was today.

[Afat11]

Can someone please tell med why nobody passes the ball to Saman Ghoddos. Are they just freezing him out? it was the same situation last game against Togo. Taremi could pass the ball to the right flank but he did not, instead he took a long shot. Ebrahimi and Ghafouri had several chances to give Saman several thru passes but instead he gave the ball away on several occasions. Poor Saman was totally invinsible, we should really take atvantage of his speed, the way he can hold the ball and his great shooting ability.

Lack of chemistry. Same happens in most organized football teams I've played for and others can probably attest. You get used to where certain teammates will go and what they will do. You have "favorite players" to pass to. When a new team member arrives, it takes time for the team to start reading where he will go and what he is thinking. Their first instinct is to pass where they know someone is standing. Often, even though it is not purposeful, the new player can seem invisible to you on the field.

Iran is a team that wants to win. They are not trying to bully or refuse to pass to Ghoddos. If they were, you know CQ would never call them up again for such unprofessional behavior. They are just not used to him in the team. When they play with him more, they will begin to notice his run pattern, and he will get more passes. I see this with many "new" players on teams. It takes a little while for teammates to anticipate their movements and pass to them. A few more games and we should be good. Thankfully Saman joined early enough, and if we have some quality friendlies, he will be gelled into the squad before Russia. He will be a major asset. The guy can play, and I can see him establishing himself over Amiri on the LW going into the WC.

[Shantaram]

Can someone please tell med why nobody passes the ball to Saman Ghoddos. Are they just freezing him out? it was the same situation last game against Togo. Taremi could pass the ball to the right flank but he did not, instead he took a long shot. Ebrahimi and Ghafouri had several chances to give Saman several thru passes but instead he gave the ball away on several occasions. Poor Saman was totally invinsible, we should really take atvantage of his speed, the way he can hold the ball and his great shooting ability.

[TM4LIFE]

I felt that Dejagah's presence was missed in the midfield today. The russians were playing very physically, and often times Amiri and especially Ebrahimi couldn't deal with it too well. Would've allowed us to come forward more centrally and Taremi would've had more freedom on the wing. Also, while ghafouri is fairly solid defensively, i think Ramin's presence meant we had 0 creativity in our buildup from the back and had almost no decent crosses.

Edit- also, while i understand why people think Beiranvand had poor exits, i do think he is starting to improve. Out of the 4-5 times he had to come out on crosses, he had 2 poor punches (that thankfully didn't result in anything) but also several strong catches despite being in difficult situations. His handling on shots and his positioning were very very strong in this game. Despite all of this, after seeing that PP game i just cant fully put my trust in him anymore.

[mahestan]

PLaying in a competitive league means nothing when he performs like this for TM. It doesn't matter, he could be the best player for Real Madrid, if he came and put these performances for the national team it wouldn't matter. I can't name a single game that I remember him performing in recent years. It is constant disappointment, and it is always the exact same way too!

I don't follow him when he plays club games. What I do know is that he has been disappointing for a long while. Yes he does come through once in awhile, but for the most part he just frustrates the hell out of me with his crosses and FKs. TM used to be so dangerous on corners, and when Dejagah or Teymourian took the corner kick, we created opportunities. When JB take them, we just waste them away.

[AllStarMomo]

PLaying in a competitive league means nothing when he performs like this for TM. It doesn't matter, he could be the best player for Real Madrid, if he came and put these performances for the national team it wouldn't matter. I can't name a single game that I remember him performing in recent years. It is constant disappointment, and it is always the exact same way too!

Starting Jahanbakhsh is 90% of the time a weakness for our Team Melli...
I would rather start a player who beghole maroof ba gheyrat bazi mikone, than a player who plays ok in Europe and really bad in TM!

But CQ will play him all time as a starter...

[Leicester City]

PLaying in a competitive league means nothing when he performs like this for TM. It doesn't matter, he could be the best player for Real Madrid, if he came and put these performances for the national team it wouldn't matter. I can't name a single game that I remember him performing in recent years. It is constant disappointment, and it is always the exact same way too!

Indeed, take Aguero for example!

[Karimi 8]

Jahanbakhsh still plays in a competitive European league so it's very difficult to leave him out but in today's game, I would have started with this lineup:


-----------------------------------Mazaheri---------------------------------------

----Ghafouri---------Hosseini---------------Pouraliganji-------------Aghaei----

----------------------Ezatollahi--------------Haji Safi/Ebrahimi-----------------

----Jahanbakhsh----------------Taremi----------------------Torabi-------------

----------------------------------Azmoun----------------------------------------

Subs: Ghoddos with Azmoun (Move Taremi to the striker position), Cheshmi with Ezatollahi (after the latter turned out to be out of form), Rezaeian with Ghafouri to experience the game, etc.

PLaying in a competitive league means nothing when he performs like this for TM. It doesn't matter, he could be the best player for Real Madrid, if he came and put these performances for the national team it wouldn't matter. I can't name a single game that I remember him performing in recent years. It is constant disappointment, and it is always the exact same way too!

[Kian Persepolis]

Anyone have the highlights in Russian? Saw a couple clips and it seems that their camera was on the opposite side of the stadium

https://youtu.be/TRDSUd6mSnE

The goals look so different when viewed from the other side of the field lol

[Sly]

Jahanbakhsh still plays in a competitive European league so it's very difficult to leave him out but in today's game, I would have started with this lineup:


-----------------------------------Mazaheri---------------------------------------

----Ghafouri---------Hosseini---------------Pouraliganji-------------Aghaei----

----------------------Ezatollahi--------------Haji Safi/Ebrahimi-----------------

----Jahanbakhsh----------------Taremi----------------------Torabi-------------

----------------------------------Azmoun----------------------------------------

Subs: Ghoddos with Azmoun (Move Taremi to the striker position), Cheshmi with Ezatollahi (after the latter turned out to be out of form), Rezaeian with Ghafouri to experience the game, etc.

[KeonKish]

I would have rather seen torabi against russia.

[TM4LIFE]

Anyone have the highlights in Russian? Saw a couple clips and it seems that their camera was on the opposite side of the stadium

[DR Strangemoosh]

CQ : 0, zero, sefr.
His player selection is awful. What the point to ask friendlies if :
- you play useless Amiri over and over again despite having a young torabi that just ask to gain some high level experience? How long Torabi play today??
- you play out of form Beiranvand and don't test any other serious alternative (Mazaheri)?
- you play Hajsafi LB over and over again, while he keep on disappointing at this position?

I agree with these three points but CQ comparatively makes much less of these mistakes than any other TM coach in history (especially branko who aged us all by 20 years).

You'll struggle to find a single national team manager who makes decisions which make sense all the time. I disagreed strongly with his leaving out Azmoun and Khalatbari (both potential X-factors) for WC14 but the positives he does for player selections far far outweigh the negatives.

If you are angry with CQ for this then you must have gone crazy in 1999-2011 period.