2018 AFC U-19 Championship

[04041374]

Red card for Taha. Iran down to 10 men.

[versusdamon]

I went through the rules again, if Syria and Jordan tie, we all have 5 points.

Tiebreakers:
1.Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams; => everyone has 2 points from two ties, still equal
2.Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams; => everyone has goal difference 0, still equal
3.Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams; => this could be crucial!!!

If they tie 0-0: Syria and Iran shot one goal, Jordan 0 => Jordan out (3rd). Next tie-breaker is goal difference in all matches, Iran wins, Iran 1st!
If they tie 1-1: Syria has 2 goals from 2 draws, Iran and Jordan have 1 goal from 2 draws. => Syria first, and the tie-breaker goes on for Iran and Jordan (making Iran 2nd, Jordan 3rd).
If they tie 2-2 (or more): Syria 1st, Jordan 2nd, Iran 3rd

So actually only one situation can make us qualify:
Tie between Jordan and Syria 0-0.

[Doctor DOOM]

^so we have quite a few scenarios where we can advance.

1- S and J tie 0-0
2- S and J tie 1-1
3- S Vs. J has a winner

Not bad

[Tehranto]

^so we have quite a few scenarios where we can advance.
1- S and J tie 0-0
2- S and J tie 1-1
3- S Vs. J has a winner
Not bad

You sure? If there is a winner, we finish 2nd ...

[versusdamon]

^so we have quite a few scenarios where we can advance.

1- S and J tie 0-0
2- S and J tie 1-1
3- S Vs. J has a winner

Not bad

We are out in any scenario in which we become 2nd. See the page before. Out of the 10 second placed teams, we are on the 8th or 9th place (out of 10). Only the first 5 qualify.
Only way to qualify is to become first and this is only possible by a 0-0 tie.

[versusdamon]

Half time in Jordan, still 0-0. If it stays like this, we are through!

[Tehranto]

Syria scored. Over.

[versusdamon]

1-1, sorry to say, but we are out.

[versusdamon]

The tiebreakers are kind of stupid though. When they play 2-2 or higher, Syria is first, Jordan second and Iran third, even though all of them have 5 points BUT Irans overall goal difference is 4, Jordans is 2 and Syrias is 1. So exactly the other way round.

[NFL]

I don't get it, why is 90 saying that Iran has already advanced regardless of what happens in the other game??

http://90tv.ir/news/425154/%D9%85%D9%82%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C-%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A2%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7-%DA%AF%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%84-%D9%81%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B7%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B2-%D8%B4%D8%A7%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C-%D8%B5%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF-%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86%D8%AF

[Ali Doust]

makes no sense Iran has the highest goal difference. Why would they be out?

[aenima_8]

Jordan just scored - 2-1 in the 74th min.

[versusdamon]

I explained it on the page before. We have 3 teams with 5 points (if Jordan/Syria tied).

One last time:
By tiebreakers we become first, if they play 0-0. We become second if they play 1-1 or any of the teams win. We become third if they play 2-2 or any higher ties, because the important tiebreaker is:
"3. Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;"
0-0 tie -> Iran 1 goal, Syria 1 goal, Jordan 0 goals => next tiebreaker between Syria-Iran which is then overall goal difference => Iran advances
1-1 tie -> Iran 1, Syria 2, Jordan 1 => Syria is first anyway, Iran and Jordan go to next tiebreaker which is overall goal difference => Iran second, Jordan 3rd
2-2 tie (or higher) -> Iran 1, Syria 3, Jordan 2 => Syria first, Jordan second, Iran 3rd.

And the second-placed team is definitely out. Just look at the table at Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFC_U-19_Championship_qualification

[Ali Doust]

I explained it on the page before. We have 3 teams with 5 points (if Jordan/Syria tied).

One last time:
By tiebreakers we become first, if they play 0-0. We become second if they play 1-1 or any of the teams win. We become third if they play 2-2 or any higher ties, because the important tiebreaker is:
"3. Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;"
0-0 tie -> Iran 1 goal, Syria 1 goal, Jordan 0 goals => next tiebreaker between Syria-Iran which is then overall goal difference => Iran advances
1-1 tie -> Iran 1, Syria 2, Jordan 1 => Syria is first anyway, Iran and Jordan go to next tiebreaker which is overall goal difference => Iran second, Jordan 3rd
2-2 tie (or higher) -> Iran 1, Syria 3, Jordan 2 => Syria first, Jordan second, Iran 3rd.

And the second-placed team is definitely out. Just look at the table at Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_A..._qualification

Seems like AFC has its own dumb rules again. Usually its points first then goal difference then head to head results

[allan123]

I think Iran Advance

http://www.flashscore.com/soccer/asia/afc-championship-u19/standings/