TM to wear adidas vs Qatar and China

[O-ZoNe]

Big brands like Nike and Adidas would never let low quality jersey's reach team melli . Worst thing with Givova is that the clothing with the low quality was also the ones made in Italy. I'm not to optimistic of the whole cancellation of contract as Taj said in navad that Givova has showcased a new textile that looked good. Makes me wonder if Taj wants them gone? Well ofcourse there is the legal part of it but in my opinion Givova doesn't deserve a new chance a job wich they from the beginning never was qualified for.

True, but big brands as you call them would never come to Iran in the first place, as we have no copyright and patent laws to speak of, and if we do they are infringed upon with ease. There is no money in it for Nike because as soon as the kit design is released knockoffs will flood the market. I mean an online Iranian dealer legitimately sent me a fake Uhlsport jersey as a "free gift" when I bought our WCQ one from them! When I was at various events to watch the WC and AC matches, for every authentic jersey I saw with a cheetah print, I saw an additional 5 fake ones! Until we get rid of the middle man and counterfeit culture they won't come.

[MR.S]

True, but big brands as you call them would never come to Iran in the first place, as we have no copyright and patent laws to speak of, and if we do they are infringed upon with ease. There is no money in it for Nike because as soon as the kit design is released knockoffs will flood the market. I mean an online Iranian dealer legitimately sent me a fake Uhlsport jersey as a "free gift" when I bought our WCQ one from them! When I was at various events to watch the WC and AC matches, for every authentic jersey I saw with a cheetah print, I saw an additional 5 fake ones! Until we get rid of the middle man and counterfeit culture they won't come.

knockoffs are everywhere look at china . Lot of Iranians are demanding authentic gear. I read Adidas already opened up official stores in Iran even versace got a store in theran.

[MR.S]

btw have u seen sosha makanis sponge bob panths? those are authentic 😄

[MR.S]

versace store in iran

https://youtu.be/gm0mDoW9RGs

[O-ZoNe]

knockoffs are everywhere look at china . Lot of Iranians are demanding authentic gear. I heard Adidas even opened up official stores in Iran + plus a lot of other brands I even read versace opened a store in theran.

But in China they can retail 1 authentic jersey for 10 fakes and still make a huge profit given the massive population. In Iran they won't have the same luxury.

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[MR.S]

But in China they can retail 1 authentic jersey for 10 fakes and still make a huge profit given the massive population. In Iran they won't have the same luxury.

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what do u work with statistics? u just ignored the facts that adidas got official stores in Iran allready . If u Google adidas Iran u will find that they got a store in Negar Tower, Vanak Sq., Teheran

[MR.S]

Adidas store opening ceremony in Iran

https://youtu.be/4FJ9JtdqbP8

True, but big brands as you call them would never come to Iran.

[O-ZoNe]

adidas store opening ceremony Iran
https://youtu.be/4FJ9JtdqbP8

Yep just like Majid/merooj has a store in Los Angeles...in fact they claim to have HQ offices in California...does team USA in any sport wear merooj? Do Americans care for the brand??? What's your point adidas has stores in many places? Namayandegi doesn't equal sponsorship. My points are well documented facts not youtube vids...case in point...recent academic publication relevant to the topic.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://waliaj.com/wp-content/2014/Special%2520Issue%25203,%25202014/10%25202014-30-S3-pp.59-66.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjK9on3nKbOAhWm8YMKHcD3AWcQFggjMAM&usg=AFQjCNG9j5n1TxE0vO8fFmarEH0w65SqJA

And here is some mainstream news on the topic in case you aren't looking for an academic paper...notice how the government took a stance to ban significant western product imports.

http://m.voanews.com/a/fake-designer-brands-flood-iran-117201003/172768.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-ban-cola-cola-nike-apple-us-consumer-goods-blockade-following-nuclear-deal-1527662

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[MR.S]

Yep just lkike Majid/mehrooj has a store in Los Angeles...what's your point? Namayandegi doesn't equal sponsorship. My points are well documented facts not youtube vids...case in point...recent academic publication relevant to the topic.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://waliaj.com/wp-content/2014/Special%2520Issue%25203,%25202014/10%25202014-30-S3-pp.59-66.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjK9on3nKbOAhWm8YMKHcD3AWcQFggjMAM&usg=AFQjCNG9j5n1TxE0vO8fFmarEH0w65SqJA

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I have no time reading a research study, I have my own to write. And they actually mean nothing if they are not credited buy other researchers.

And your own articles prove u wrong Adidas Diesel and Puma have official stores in Iran.


So what's the diffrence in having Adidas retailers and sponsoring?

Go read your on comments u change the subject when you where proven wrong. Sorry I'm not going to waste any more time on u end of discussion.

[O-ZoNe]

I have no time reading a research study, I have my own to write.


So what's the diffrence in having Adidas retailers and sponsoring?

Go read your on comments u changed the subject when you where proven wrong. Sorry I'm not going to waste any more time on u ennd of discussion.

I guess since it seems you feel we have time for youtube vids I figured you could read a pub or a news piece. Sponsorship is advertisement and the hopes for revenue should the fan base/followers like what they see. But if the fans are flooded with fakes...they may be attracted by low prices rather than paying $100 for a jersey. My guess is with a retailer...the store owner/manager puts in an order and is required to sell off the product which is guaranteed profit for Adidas regardless of fakes being available. Also retail shops have a variety of products and thus appeal to customers within a broad market. Professional sports have a strong appeal to counterfeiters because they bridge the price gap. Most people won't pay $10 for a fake tshirt when the real is $29 (or they do and still buy the real one too)but they would pay $39 for a fake jersey when the real is $100-200.

Also I never changed my previous posts...just editted them to add more text to save other readers the hassle of multiple posts.

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[MR.S]

I guess since it seems you feel we have time for youtube vids I figured you could read a pub or a news piece. Sponsorship is advertisement and the hopes for revenue should the fan base/followers like what they see. But if the fans are flooded with fakes...they may be attracted by low prices rather than paying $100 for a jersey. My guess is with a retailer...the store owner/manager puts in an order and is required to sell off the product which is guaranteed profit for Adidas regardless of fakes being available. Also retail shops have a variety of products and thus appeal to customers within a broad market. Professional sports have a strong appeal to counterfeiters because they bridge the price gap. Most people won't pay $10 for a fake tshirt when the real is $29 (or they do and still buy the real one too)but they would pay $39 for a fake jersey when the real is $100-200.

Also I never changed my previous posts...just editted them to add more text to save other readers the hassle of multiple posts.

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I'm a Industrial business engineer myself so pls save me the effort

[O-ZoNe]

I'm a business engineer myself so pls save me the effort

Right. Sounds wonderful Anyways to be honest...would love for Adidas or Nike to sponsor TM. I'm obviously more pessimistic than you are about the prospects.

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[MR.S]

Right. Sounds wonderful Anyways to be honest...would love for Adidas or Nike to sponsor TM. I'm obviously more pessimistic than you are about the prospects.

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Being pessimistic is an Iranian illness I'm not to optimistic about Tm sponsorship by a big brand either but not for the copyright reason u mentioned. We can get any big brand we want, but unfortunately our federation are to corrupt for that, wanting the biggest possible profit as possible wich they atleast on paper get with small companys like Givova.

[Kian Persepolis]

True, but big brands as you call them would never come to Iran in the first place, as we have no copyright and patent laws to speak of, and if we do they are infringed upon with ease. There is no money in it for Nike because as soon as the kit design is released knockoffs will flood the market. I mean an online Iranian dealer legitimately sent me a fake Uhlsport jersey as a "free gift" when I bought our WCQ one from them! When I was at various events to watch the WC and AC matches, for every authentic jersey I saw with a cheetah print, I saw an additional 5 fake ones! Until we get rid of the middle man and counterfeit culture they won't come.

Well that's Uhlsport's fault for not making the legit jerseys accessible to everyone lol

[O-ZoNe]

Well that's Uhlsport's fault for not making the legit jerseys accessible to everyone lol

Perhaps, but that's not making it to the big brand CEO ears Could it also be a problem with Iran's market structure that emphasizes the need for middle men?

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