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  • GolfePersique
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    Originally posted by teammelli1 View Post
    I won't forgive Taj if we pull out.
    I agree that IFF have acted as a bunch of cowards but, I'd rather pull out than sumbitting to arabs.

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  • GolfePersique
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    Iran.
    That's the end of story.
    If the arabs don't want they can withdraw

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  • teammelli91
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    It's not fair to Zob Ahan, Sepahan, Teraktor and Naft if we pull out. I don't care about Saudi Arabia.. This is the ACL and we are a part of it. Screw them. Screw them all.

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  • teammelli91
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    I won't forgive Taj if we pull out.

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  • AIrani
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    Saudi Arabia never was a good friend of Iran. However, Iranians, almost a million of them travel to this country every year.

    In old days, Saudi Arabia did not have an income, they came up with the idea of pilgrim and imbedded it in the religion. They make ton of money from walking around a building and throwing stone. I will NEVER go to Mecca.

    IFF must complain to FIFA. AFC will NOT side with Iran. Teams such as Uzbek and Tajik and others should join Iran against AFC.

    Iran should get out of AFC which has become Arab Federation. Many years ago, AFC's site used a wrong name instead of Persian Gulf. We should have sued them then.

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
    This will hurt our club football, so it's a bad idea. And not to mention that, if we get grouped with Saudi Arabia in our WCQ group there will be huge problems if we pull back (3-0 forfeit loss for us). I hope we don't pull back.
    This is just BS. Don't pay attention to them.

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  • Kiarash
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    Originally posted by Sarbaze-Vatan View Post
    Mehdi Taj: We do not accept to play at neutral ground against Saudi Arabia teams at any cost. If AFC decides to schedule our games against Saudi Arabia teams at neutral ground, we refuse to participate at ACL and complain to FIFA.

    حاضر نیستیم در کشور بی*طرف به میدان برویم

    تاج: اگر تصمیم AFC بازی در کشور ثالث باشد، به فیفا شکایت می*کنیم/آخرین انتخاب می*تواند کناره*گیری از لیگ قهرمانان باشد
    رئیس سازمان لیگ گفت: اگر AFC تصمیم بگیرد بازی در کشور بی*طرف برگزار شود از طریق فیفا این موضوع را پیگیری خواهیم کرد.

    به گزارش خبرنگار ورزشی خبرگزاری فارس، مهدی تاج، رئیس سازمان لیگ در مورد میزبانی نمایندگان ایران در لیگ قهرمانان آسیا گفت:* با اتفاقاتی که پیش آمده و با جلسه*ای که برگزار شد بازی*های هفته اول و دوم که در مقابل حریف*های عربستانی است به هفته چهارم منتقل شد.

    وی افزود: به جای بازی*های هفته اول با تیم*های عربستانی با حریفان ازبکستانی و اماراتی بازی می*کنیم و اگر اختلاف حل شد بازی در ایران برگزار خواهد شد و در صورت اینکه ما مجبور باشیم در کشوری بی*طرف بازی کنیم. ما این را قبول نداریم و این تصمیمی سیاسی است و اگر AFC پافشاری کند، مجبور هستیم در آخرین انتخاب از حضور در لیگ قهرمانان آسیا کناره*گیری کنیم که این مورد شبیه اتفاقی باشد که مثلاً فردا کره شمالی و کره جنوبی به مصاف هم نروند و این تصمیم خطرناکی است. اما ما امیدواریم این مشکل بین دو فدراسیون حل شود. البته این تأخیر و جابه*جایی بازی*ها تدبیری از سوی AFC بوده تا این مناقشه ختم به خیر شود.

    تاج در مورد اظهارنظر دبیر فدراسیون فوتبال اظهار داشت: در کشورهای آمریکا و آلمان و بسیاری دیگر سفارت ما مورد تهاجم قرار گرفت و ما محکوم کردیم، اما هیچگاه مسائل سیاسی را در مسائل ورزشی ارتباط نمی*دهند البته ما حمله به سفارت عربستان را محکوم می*کنیم اما بحث امنیت کشور موضوعی بی*معنی است اگر کشور ما امن نبود سوریه و عراق و افغانستان بازی*های خود را به ایران منتقل نمی*کردند.

    وی در مورد راه ندادن کسرایی و نمایندگان ایران به جلسه AFC گفت: در مرحله اول آقای کسرایی و اسدی به جلسه رفتند که کسرایی را راه ندادند، اما در مرحله دوم من و آقای کفاشیان به جلسه رفتیم و موضوع را بررسی کردیم. به نظرم اگر براتی حضور پیدا می کرد بهتر بود، چون آن*جا زبان حقوقی است.

    وی درباره سؤالی مبنی بر حمایت کفاشیان از شیخ سلمان و اینکه ایران در این قضیه خیلی وارد مناقشه و جدال نمی*شوند، گفت: در مجموع موضع فدراسیون موضع ملی است نه شخصی، و این موضوع ارتباطی به مناقشه فدراسیون عربستان و ایران ندارد. کشور ما امن است و حمله به سفارت مورد تایید نظام مانبود و فقط یک اتفاق بود. البته ما ضرر کردیم و می*خواهند خودشان را برنده ماجرا بدانند. به هیچ وجه تصمیم ما حضور در کشور ثالث نیست.

    وی در پایان در جواب سؤالی مبنی براینکه آیا از طریق فیفا این موضوع را پیگیری خواهید کرد، گفت: اگر AFC وارد این جریان شود و بخواهد بازی را در کشوری بی*طرف برگزار کند پای در راه خطرناکی خواهد گذاشت و این مشکل به بازی*های ملی هم کشیده خواهد شد و باید این مشکل از طریق فدراسیون*ها برطرف شود در غیر این صورت ما از طریق فیفا این موضوع را پیگیری خواهیم کرد.
    This will hurt our club football, so it's a bad idea. And not to mention that, if we get grouped with Saudi Arabia in our WCQ group there will be huge problems if we pull back (3-0 forfeit loss for us). I hope we don't pull back.

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by Leopard View Post
    Please forget about voting. Here is the argument to use:
    1. It was Saudi arabia that could not protect teenage pilgrims and they AIRPORT SECURITY raped two young boys. This is very important and all countries should refuse to play in saudi arabia any of their saudi games.
    2. MERS or incorrectly named Middle East Respiratory syndrome has taken lives of more that 500 Saudis and it has spread to Korea and other countries. As of last month 12 Koreans had died. MERS is a big risk and it is important argument to use by all clubs or countries that need to go to saudi ar to play.
    3. Saudi arabia initiated an illegal war against its neighbor and it has singled out a race of people and that is genocide. Although U.N has failed to deal with it, FIFA must call for sanctions against saudis and their sports teams to apply pressure to bring them to civilized world.
    conclusion: Only the games that are supposed to be played in saudi arabia should be moved to neutral venue. In addition no arab referee from countries that are sympathetic towards saudi ar and have recently announced it; shsould be allowed to handle a game when saudi ar or its clubs are playing.


    by the way how can any organization call saudi regime supporting countries neutral places?
    That argument turn pale when Haj pilgrimage come to the picture. It will be lame.

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  • Leopard
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    Please forget about voting. Here is the argument to use:
    1. It was Saudi arabia that could not protect teenage pilgrims and they AIRPORT SECURITY raped two young boys. This is very important and all countries should refuse to play in saudi arabia any of their saudi games.
    2. MERS or incorrectly named Middle East Respiratory syndrome has taken lives of more that 500 Saudis and it has spread to Korea and other countries. As of last month 12 Koreans had died. MERS is a big risk and it is important argument to use by all clubs or countries that need to go to saudi ar to play.
    3. Saudi arabia initiated an illegal war against its neighbor and it has singled out a race of people and that is genocide. Although U.N has failed to deal with it, FIFA must call for sanctions against saudis and their sports teams to apply pressure to bring them to civilized world.
    conclusion: Only the games that are supposed to be played in saudi arabia should be moved to neutral venue. In addition no arab referee from countries that are sympathetic towards saudi ar and have recently announced it; shsould be allowed to handle a game when saudi ar or its clubs are playing.


    by the way how can any organization call saudi regime supporting countries neutral places?

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  • saeed_noro
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    If we say NOW YES TO NEUTRAL GROUND - we also will be forced to play vs. saudi, UAE, Qatar in WCQ on NEUTRAL GROUND, so we should definitely NOT ACCEPT TO PLAY ON NEUTRAL GROUND....political and tactical view..

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  • Keano
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    Originally posted by ferdowsi View Post
    Would be humiliating if Iranian teams pulled out and Arabs continued...
    Pulling out is pure stupid. It's exactly what these States wish for, an Iran-less ACL competition, thus a much easier road to advance to the next rounds, plus the political/religious pleasure aspect of such event taking place is a dream come true for them. So yeah it would be absolutely idiotic act of us to voluntarily pull out of the league!
    Last edited by Keano; 02-03-2016, 11:23 AM.

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  • teammelli91
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    Of course if we don't pull out they'll be upset.

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  • teammelli91
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    If they're not gonna pull out (please don't make a joke..) why should we?

    If we pull out then they'll be happy. We need to be in the competition.

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  • ferdowsi
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    Would be humiliating if Iranian teams pulled out and Arabs continued...

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  • Paradigm
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    I think Iran and Saudi Aabia should learn to fully separate sports and politics. Just play on each others' turfs like most previous years, but have a neutral international observer to closely oversee things.

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