Alireza Jahanbakhsh @ AZ Alkmaar | 2015 - 2016

[04041374]

One shot.

What are the sponsoring/marketing reason that FFS Frankfurt or Rostov hired an east asian??

That's normal that iranians aren't hype anymore, we (TM and EU legionnaires) disappeared from the circulation during some crucial years. Remember how Iran was mocked during the WC14 draw and just before the start of last WC. It was like we were guam with some amateur guy that play football as a hobby

Good that you named the Korean players in FSV and Rostov. While Azmoun, one of Asia's best strikers plays in Rostov and got voted as the 2nd best striker among Rostov fans along with former Zenit striker Bukharov, the Korean player isn't really impressive (scored a few goals until now) compared to other strikers. He transferred to Russia after playing at Al Hilal and was called up to the NT 3 times.
The Korean striker in Frankfurt is a 19 year old striker who recently joined this team from Korea and and wasn't actually proven in international competitions (just like Azmoun or JB 2-3 years ago), however Ehsan is playing professional football since 2008 and played 1 WC and 2 Asian Cups.

And also good that our team was able to prove those so called experts wrong.

[PSGman#19]

This generation is maybe not as talented as the one in the era you mentioned but most of our youngsters and top players are talented enough to make it into 90% of the teams where Japanese and Korean players play.

Wasn't it Hosseini that admitted he refused Wolfsburg to go to Qatar? This kind of attitude indirectly killed the EU career of other talented iranians.

[Kiarash]

One thing is sure, the world will take Iran much more serious than ever before if we qualify for the 2018 World Cup because we would make it twice a row. Consistency gets you noticed, and we have proven to be capable of beating Chile and Argentina. Now if our Omid team makes it to the 2016 Olympics in Rio, that would be great exposure.

[PersianLegion]

It has nothing to do with our football ability. Our players have nothing less that Japanese or Korean ones playing in Europe, out of their top players like Honda and Kagawa.
You should perhaps try to watch again Iran's matches against those teams, or maybe the games our players in Europe played against theirs . We have continuously proved on the football pitch that Iranian players are certainly not inferior to the fortunate East-Asians that get to play in Germany and elsewhere

Other than our usual players: Azmoun, Ezattollai, JB, HajiSafi, Ansarifard, and Gucci who play in Europe we can have these players there as well.

PAG, Mohmadi twins, Kaveh Rezzai, Khalatbari, Alipour, Taremi, Alisha, Rahmati, Cheshmi, Omid Ebrahimi, Vouria Ghafouri, Kanaani, Pooladi, Vahid Amiri, Torabi, Beiranvand, and Ashkan.

[IranPowned]

One thing is sure, the world will take Iran much more serious than ever before if we qualify for the 2018 World Cup because we would make it twice a row. Consistency gets you noticed, and we have proven to be capable of beating Chile and Argentina. Now if our Omid team makes it to the 2016 Olympics in Rio, that would be great exposure.

Exactly.

[football.club]

It has nothing to do with our football ability. Our players have nothing less that Japanese or Korean ones playing in Europe, out of their top players like Honda and Kagawa.
You should perhaps try to watch again Iran's matches against those teams, or maybe the games our players in Europe played against theirs . We have continuously proved on the football pitch that Iranian players are certainly not inferior to the fortunate East-Asians that get to play in Germany and elsewhere

I agree with you that we have more talent than Japan and east asian countries. But our academies are weak and "only" talent is not enough in order to play in Europe. When you move from one country to another you have to establish yourself and acclimatize in a new environment. New teammates, new food, a new language and other challenges. The question is, how hard are you willing to work in order to progress??

You see Kagawa being transfered to Manchester for 17-20 million euros, even though he left Manchester united he was welcomed back at Dortmund.
Honda was playing for CSKA, a key player and he was bought by Milan.
You have Shinji Okazaki that played for Mainz 05. He destroyed Bundesliga with his scoring.

These players joined a European club, impressed and moved on to other clubs. None of them gave up and returned to Japan or accepted good offers from arab clubs.
Manchester, Dortmund, Leicester, Milan, Inter koja, AZ, Charlton Athletic, Panionios, FSV Frankfurt koja??
Jaye mogajese nist.

So you cant base your argument on a friendly game or even a competitive game played in Asia. What have iranian players done in europe? Sardar is scoring from time to time, Saeed is not playing at the moment, Karim has scored a few goals in the greek league (greek people are more interested in their basketball league than football). This is the reality. We all love TM and Iran but the painful reality is that our players are not that good and we overrate them. Still its nice to see that CQ managed to implement a friendly environment and teamwork.

But Jahanbaksh is really good player and I think he can take another step in his career. Hopefully his performances will open up for more young iranian players to join european clubs.

[football.club]

You should perhaps try to watch again Iran's matches against those teams, or maybe the games our players in Europe played against theirs . We have continuously proved on the football pitch that Iranian players are certainly not inferior to the fortunate East-Asians that get to play in Germany and elsewhere

So if Kyrgyzstan play against Australia and they draw. Does that mean their players are equal to Australian players?

We played 1-1 against turkmenistan and oman away, not that impressive if you ask me. What does that result mean?? Does it mean that players from Oman and Turkmenistan should also transfer to europe? Perhaps they are also discussing this topic on their forums, "how can they have players in europe, and not our team`?".

Your argument is meaningless.

[ali alipour]

So if Kyrgyzstan play against Australia and they draw. Does that mean their players are equal to Australian players?
We played 1-1 against turkmenistan and oman away, not that impressive if you ask me. What does that result mean?? Does it mean that players from Oman and Turkmenistan should also transfer to europe? Perhaps they are also discussing this topic on their forums, "how can they have players in europe, and not our team`?".
Your argument is meaningless.

Iran has always matched Japan and Korea in the numerous games they've played over the past 50 years. To use 1 game to try to prove a point is just stupid. I'm surprised you can't use your brain to realize this before saying someone else's argument is meaningless.

[Z Joon]

So if Kyrgyzstan play against Australia and they draw. Does that mean their players are equal to Australian players?

We played 1-1 against turkmenistan and oman away, not that impressive if you ask me. What does that result mean?? Does it mean that players from Oman and Turkmenistan should also transfer to europe?

Your argument is meaningless.

Your interpretation is poor.

Are you comparing occasional slip-ups to regular strong performances against decent teams? To you our recent draw vs Japan or our regular wins vs South Korea are comparable to Turkmenistan or Oman's ties vs us? My next suggestion to you is to look at the consistent/average quality of the players and the quality of the performance, and not simply the results, either wins or losses, and rare blunders vs minnow.

[PersianLegion]

Our team has gone through considerable changes since 2014 WC. It's been 1.5 year We have lost Neko and had many changes in all positions.

GoalKeeper:
Haghighi has beening warming the bench in Rubin Kazan and pretty much looks out of form. Beiranvand is our last hope since Rahmati won't see TM shirt as long as CQ is at helm.

Defense line:
Lost Pooladi, Sadeghi, Beikzadeh, Ale Nemeh, etc for various reasons including aging
Our CBs Montazeri and Husseini are also getting old but we have the right replacement for them (Kanaani-PAG)
We are still struggling at LB position after losing Pooladi. Mohammadi has not been tested versus a tough team such as Australia/S.Korea or Japan.
Our RB is stronger now that Khosro is over 30 and Ghafouri/Rezaian/Beita/... are lined up to take the position.

Mid field:
Neko is gone, Ando has declined beyond his prime time and Shojai has way passed his time in TM. We are lacking a play maker.
Omid Ebrahimi is doing well for now but it wont be enough for next round of qualifiers. Ezatollahi is the future in DMF position.

Wingers:
Our left wing is in good standing with the likes of Hajisafi, Amiri, and Torabi/Mohammadi. Our RW position is for grab as Ashkan has declined significantly since world cup and JB has not recovered fully from his bad injury.

Forwards:
There are much hope in this position for us with the like of Azmoun, Gucci, Rezzai and possibly Karim (if he can keep his form in Greek league) along other possible new enthusiastic younger players.

Comparing this team with our world cup team I say we have lost experience and hunger for scoring goals plus some steam but we have gain some fresh blood which need more matches to gain international experience then we can judge truly if Iran as a footballing nation is in decline/rise or maintaining statue quo.

[Gucci10]

Good that you named the Korean players in FSV and Rostov. While Azmoun, one of Asia's best strikers plays in Rostov and got voted as the 2nd best striker among Rostov fans along with former Zenit striker Bukharov, the Korean player isn't really impressive (scored a few goals until now) compared to other strikers. He transferred to Russia after playing at Al Hilal and was called up to the NT 3 times.
The Korean striker in Frankfurt is a 19 year old striker who recently joined this team from Korea and and wasn't actually proven in international competitions (just like Azmoun or JB 2-3 years ago), however Ehsan is playing professional football since 2008 and played 1 WC and 2 Asian Cups.

And also good that our team was able to prove those so called experts wrong.

Koreans are fucking shit. I bet you put even fucking Taremi in a Bundesliga team and he will score more.

[ali alipour]

Koreans are fucking shit. I bet you put even fucking Taremi in a Bundesliga team and he will score more.

No ones saying that or said that. Iraqi forum is that way ----->

[PersianLegion]

Koreans are fucking shit. I bet you put even fucking Taremi in a Bundesliga team and he will score more.

Korean players are respectable specially SHM and KSY, but if you are referring to that particular player in Hajisafi team then he is a 19 years old green horn. We (Iranians) never claim Korean players are this or that as you do. That is going too far.

[inarsenewetrust]

Koreans are fucking shit. I bet you put even fucking Taremi in a Bundesliga team and he will score more.-Gucci10

Korean players are respectable specially SHM and KSY, but if you are referring to that particular player in Hajisafi team then he is a 19 years old green horn. We (Iranians) never claim Korean players are this or that as you do. That is going too far.

key word being iranians...what iraqis do is a different matter entirely and one that the MAJORITY of people on this forum do not know/care about. Saying Koreans are fucking shit makes little to no sense. Yes we have a mental edge on the national team but they have a stockpile of leggionares throughout the best leagues in europe. FFS they have the most expensive asian player in history , Hueng min Son to tottenham for 25+ million pounds around 40 million US dollars. Saying that they are shit makes actual iranian football fans look like completely clueless morons/dickheads. They have 6 players in Bundesliga alone most of whom are starters. Plus 2 starters in the PL and one sub. Not to mention the ones starting for teams in the first div of portugal, czech, etc. That may just have been one of the most baseless comments i ever heard on pfdc and the fact that is a discussion is saying a lot considering some of things said around here

[Gucci10]

No ones saying that or said that. Iraqi forum is that way ----->

What is your problem with me?