Ando at Umm Salal

[Bi-honar]

Good facilities do not outweigh the level of competition.

That's exactly it. The level of competition in Qatar is absolutely terrible, even with Asian standards - they have two decent teams and that's it.

Our players are going there, still getting picked for Team Melli and then we wonder why TM is getting worse. If players who play in the QSL were good enough, Qatar would be a contender in Asia, rather than a 3rd rate team.

And some people were counting on Ando being at top level (mentally, fitness wise and tactically) 3 years from now for the World Cup! He barely held his own against Turkmenistan and it's all downhill from here.

We really need to stop wasting time with these guys who know their careers are over, and therefore go for these lucrative contracts in these weaker leagues, and start focusing at least on our home grown and developing talents.

[Team Melli Fan]

We are invading Qatar it seems

More like they're invading our national team

[Z Joon]

Ando at Um Salal

We are invading Qatar it seems


And looks like Nekounam and Pouladi said f*ck self-respect, just give us the oil cash and we'll play in Qatar's 2nd division
That level is the exact definition you'll find for "rock bottom"

[PersianLegion]

Heyfe

Heyfe .... noon

We are invading Qatari 2nd division teams. Congratulation to our money loving players. Does Qatar have 3rd division? I may try to join a team for money too? Who knows I may play with our national team players in a same team in near future... I guess instead of spending years in Iranian clubs and go through NT selection, our young players can cut the crap and go straight to Qatar and start there if the goal of each NT player is to eventually move to QSL.

Don't you think this is the right short cut for our yougesters to get invited to NT? start football in Qatar in the first place why waste time in IPL or Azadegan leagues.

Heyfe

[GolfePersique]

Nekounam may also join a qatari club. He is now in Doha.

نکونام: در ایران نیستم/ برای مذاکره با دو باشگاه قطری به دوحه آمدم

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[Zamboor]

Nabil Bahoui is going to Saudi. The arabs found another cheap market filled with good players called Sweden

[AminGP]

He is only 32, man.

He is supposed to lead our team to the World Cup.

Yes but where exactly do you want him to play? He has no offers from Europe and he's too old for there. You want him to go to Esteghlal or any team in Iran where he doesn't get paid?

[jahandoost]

nooshe janesh

[Kiarash]

He's getting old and it's almost the end of his career so it's a good time for him to save up his money before retirement. In Iran it's not guaranteed that he would get paid and he has to end up paying tax on what his contract says not what he has received.

He is only 32, man.

He is supposed to lead our team to the World Cup.

[Kiarash]

Ando at Um Salal

I hear everyone complaining about Iranian players going to the Qatari league. I never turned pro but played at the youth level for several clubs and I know for a fact that things like professionalism, great facilities, good management, and meeting international standards can have a massive influence on a professional player's decision to play in a place like Qatar.

I'm not a fan of that league and certainly don't approve of the way they got the world cup but this is a separate issue. They have excellent facilities, infrastructure, management, and international caliber standards when it comes to running football operations. Is it an exciting league with lots of spectators? Not at all. Do I watch it? Hell no.

But, back to the point. Compare all of the things I mentioned to the crappy Iranian league. No infrastructure, old and run-down stadiums, no proper training grounds, virtually no management expertise, constant fighting and bickering about contract sums, clowns like Ghalenoi, Mazloumi, Derakhshan at the helm of clubs, and on top of all of that, absolutely no knowledge of how to run football operations. I mean the choice is clear.

This is all in addition to all the boring games in the Iranian league. Watch an Iranian league game and with the exception of Naft and Zob Ahan no other team is capable of putting together more than 4 passes. To claim that these players are ruining their football by going to a country with lower football standards is, frankly, funny. Yeah Qatar's football isn't as good as Iran's at the national level, but what they lack on the pitch they make up for with their import of good foreign players, coaches, managers, and people who know the business of football. Unfortunately that's more than I can say about the Iranian league. Just my two cents.

Good facilities do not outweigh the level of competition. If we go by what you say, we should be satisfied with our players going to Luxembourg for example because they have better stadiums, training and management than Iran.

Rather than we try to justify these moves by saying Qatar is a more "professional" league and the players need to "feed" their family, we as fans should despise these transfers as much as possible.

Many players like Ando do not care about good facilities, they go to Qatar because of lucrative offers; simple as that.

What happens next is that their general performances for TM decline as we have seen with Dejagah, is he as good as his Fulham days? Not even. This is just an example.

IMO, if we want to be relevant in the next World Cup, we should no longer call up players from Qatar. In Europe, they do not even look at these kind of players when they move to QSL, Iran should take an example.

They can secure their financial future as much as they want and that is fine, but is it weird to expect from our players to be in top shape? It's not. Earlier today I found an article where former Ajax and Al Ahli coach Henk Ten Cate was stating that leagues like Qatar and UAE are equal to the third division of The Netherlands. Food for thought, he is a real pro and has seen it himself so it's pretty creditable.

[AminGP]

He's getting old and it's almost the end of his career so it's a good time for him to save up his money before retirement. In Iran it's not guaranteed that he would get paid and he has to end up paying tax on what his contract says not what he has received.

[ali alipour]

I hear everyone complaining about Iranian players going to the Qatari league. I never turned pro but played at the youth level for several clubs and I know for a fact that things like professionalism, great facilities, good management, and meeting international standards can have a massive influence on a professional player's decision to play in a place like Qatar.

I'm not a fan of that league and certainly don't approve of the way they got the world cup but this is a separate issue. They have excellent facilities, infrastructure, management, and international caliber standards when it comes to running football operations. Is it an exciting league with lots of spectators? Not at all. Do I watch it? Hell no.

But, back to the point. Compare all of the things I mentioned to the crappy Iranian league. No infrastructure, old and run-down stadiums, no proper training grounds, virtually no management expertise, constant fighting and bickering about contract sums, clowns like Ghalenoi, Mazloumi, Derakhshan at the helm of clubs, and on top of all of that, absolutely no knowledge of how to run football operations. I mean the choice is clear.

This is all in addition to all the boring games in the Iranian league. Watch an Iranian league game and with the exception of Naft and Zob Ahan no other team is capable of putting together more than 4 passes. To claim that these players are ruining their football by going to a country with lower football standards is, frankly, funny. Yeah Qatar's football isn't as good as Iran's at the national level, but what they lack on the pitch they make up for with their import of good foreign players, coaches, managers, and people who know the business of football. Unfortunately that's more than I can say about the Iranian league. Just my two cents.

Well you pretty much wasted your time writing that because it's a bout the money and only the money. Lol at players going to qatar because the league meets international standards. I watched a few games last year and the level of play is about azadegan league

[Karimi 8]

Our captain is not setting a great example

[freak]

I hear everyone complaining about Iranian players going to the Qatari league. I never turned pro but played at the youth level for several clubs and I know for a fact that things like professionalism, great facilities, good management, and meeting international standards can have a massive influence on a professional player's decision to play in a place like Qatar.

I'm not a fan of that league and certainly don't approve of the way they got the world cup but this is a separate issue. They have excellent facilities, infrastructure, management, and international caliber standards when it comes to running football operations. Is it an exciting league with lots of spectators? Not at all. Do I watch it? Hell no.

But, back to the point. Compare all of the things I mentioned to the crappy Iranian league. No infrastructure, old and run-down stadiums, no proper training grounds, virtually no management expertise, constant fighting and bickering about contract sums, clowns like Ghalenoi, Mazloumi, Derakhshan at the helm of clubs, and on top of all of that, absolutely no knowledge of how to run football operations. I mean the choice is clear.

This is all in addition to all the boring games in the Iranian league. Watch an Iranian league game and with the exception of Naft and Zob Ahan no other team is capable of putting together more than 4 passes. To claim that these players are ruining their football by going to a country with lower football standards is, frankly, funny. Yeah Qatar's football isn't as good as Iran's at the national level, but what they lack on the pitch they make up for with their import of good foreign players, coaches, managers, and people who know the business of football. Unfortunately that's more than I can say about the Iranian league. Just my two cents.