Another questionable act by tractor fans

[ali alipour]

^how do you know that he was the one with the turkey flag

[Keano]

Could someone post the interview with the guy? I saw some people saying that he is a Turkish guy who is a TS fan and just came to watch the game from Turkey and that he was interviewed after the game.

Watch from 1:16 mark:

I said the possibility of a Turkish fan being in the stadium with his country's flag days ago. Some of you guys are too quick to jump the gun and judge!

[Camran khan]

I saw on footballitarin website. last night. go and check their videos. or ask people there . they may know which video it was. I saw the guy and they were talking Istanbuli Turkish with him. He said he was from Ezmir and he had been following Tiraxtor on youtube channel for three years.

I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just interested in seeing the video
Not everyday you see fans from outside of Iran support our clubs.

[PersianLegion]

If they claim he is just a supporter of tractor from Turkey, they should have a proof for it.

I saw on footballitarin website. last night. go and check their videos. or ask people there . they may know which video it was. I saw the guy and they were talking Istanbuli Turkish with him. He said he was from Ezmir and he had been following Tiraxtor on youtube channel for three years.

[FootballeKhob]

bump..

If they claim he is just a supporter of tractor from Turkey, they should have a proof for it.

[Camran khan]

Could someone post the interview with the guy? I saw some people saying that he is a Turkish guy who is a TS fan and just came to watch the game from Turkey and that he was interviewed after the game.

bump..

[Under Lahaf]

my 2 zari;

-to claim there is no whisper of separation and separatism in Azerbaijan, Kurdistan and other regions is just pure ignorance & dangerous
-to also claim the minorities aren't insulted and ignored is also ignorance and dangerous. we cannot continue with our "turk e khar" jokes and chants and expect no reaction. We cannot ignore the fact that the youth in these areas want freedom just like the rest of the nation & must address their wants and needs
-all separatism start small but get bigger and bigger as time passes.
-those who waved the flag may or may not have been foreign visitors, it doesn't matter. few incidents are easily explainable and misunderstood but the bigger picture and danger is still there...

You are concerned? start with yourselves, stop insulting people and minorities. Things are getting much worst and the route we are on right now will end up in a civil war and 3 sides are at fault and two of them are absolute minorities and must be stopped; separatists and hardcore nationalists who want to force these areas to even give up their languages...

3rd side is the outside forces (Turkey, Baku, S Arabia, Israel to name a few), with own interests that want to see iran far smaller and weaker and will do whatever it can to take full advantage of the smallest cracks in the fabrics of the society. But to point finger at the 3rd group rather than ourselves is the gravest mistake. we are the masters of our destiny and we cannot rely on our history to stay together, just look at today's map and you will see what i mean....the downward spiral continues!

[Zamboor]

[PersianLegion]

Did you guys see the turkish flag in the Champions League semifinal between Bayern and Barca?

Yes I heard there is a region called western turkey In Germany and a separatist movement is promoting for indepence! It is pretty serious they try to buy vote with doner kabab for independence from Germany. The separatist group is called Geryenakon! They are relying on Young Dorks for logistical support (sandwich wrapping and entertainments).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(organization)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks

This is a proof.

Look what I found they are asking for independent state.

[04041374]

Did you guys see the turkish flag in the Champions League semifinal between Bayern and Barca?

Obviously the Turks in Germany are trying to invade the country

[AranTZ]

Did you guys see the turkish flag in the Champions League semifinal between Bayern and Barca?

[Camran khan]

Could someone post the interview with the guy? I saw some people saying that he is a Turkish guy who is a TS fan and just came to watch the game from Turkey and that he was interviewed after the game.

[Nokhodi]

Absolutely incorrect.

The government is run by mullahs or supporters of the IR which are predominantly Persian.
Again Khamenei being the leader has nothing to do with ethnicity.
And if you look at the cabinet including Rouhani you will see that majority are Persian or from Tehran.
Rouhani: Semnan
Zarif: Tehran
Interior (FAzli): Shirvan, Khorasan
Culture(JAnati): Ghom
and ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Iran

Help yourself if you don't believe me.

Ordinary Azeris are suffering along with rest of Iran, but even more because there is a Persian bias that has been going on for a century. It needs to stop.



Who said? Lots of people wrongly assume that. It is nothing new.
Hitler misused the term but Aryan was refereed to European people even before Hitler came to power. But we are not related to them. We are middle eastern. DNA researchs proves these and a little common sense also does so.

The term land of aryan, is 99% propoganda. Iran belongs to people of Iran who live right now and that's it. We have to cut the BS.

Just because they're not living in Tabriz or Ardabil doens't mean they're not Azari. At least half the people you mentioned either are Azeri or part Azeri.

[PersianLegion]

[hzv]

You really don't know?

There were 3 waves of Turkic migration from Central Asia across the Iranian plateau starting with the Seljuks. That's ignoring the numerous Turkic fighters imported during the Ummayad and Abbasid periods.

Not to mention ambiguous Turkic-Mongol waves a la the Timurids, Qara Quyunlu, Aq Quyunlu, etc...

Who do you think ruled over Iran 1000-1500CE when the Safavids came to power? Aside from the brief rule of the Buyids and other minor regional dynasties, they were Turks and Mongols. The Safavids themselves claimed to be Qizil Bash, along with the Qajars. Reza Shah himself spoke Azari.

These people didn't just disappear, they became part of the Iranian fabric.

Did you know that during the Umayyads, two separate military cities were built in Eastern Iran. Each of them populated with 50,000 arabs? When the conquests in India came to a halt, those bases were rendered useless, but the population didn't leave. They also remained in Iran and became part of the Iranian fabric.

Iran has always been a mixed society, people need to learn to deal with it.

what do you think?

yes exactly thank you. like i said a very small percentage of people in azarbijan share ethnicity with turkish or caucus people and that is due to attacks and migration only starting after the muslim invasion. add to that the resistance of iranic inhabitants to mixing with incoming invaders and immigrants and you get a very small percentage of azaris today that share any type of ethnicity with the turks. and even those that did now have become part of iranian fabric and no doubt have intermarried and mixed with the original inhabitants making them much closer to iranians than to turkic or caucus peoples hence false bagh bagh and self hate by the very few separatists and even dear azaris who see themselves as "tafteyeh joda bafteh" and seem to be allergic to the word persian. i think we should change the name back to azarabadegan to stop further confusions besides now that the bastard child of u.s.s.r is shamelessly using the name it has lost its shine anyways. yashasin azarabadegan.