CQ debate: Mayeli kohan, Azizi and Javadi[video]

[Ando Teymourian]

Alright, so tell me. Let's say Luis Figo disagrees with Paulo Bento's coaching of the NT. His opinion doesn't matter because he hasn't reached the "appropriate level" ?




No rugs, of course I don't get it, only you get it.

I constantly mock the people that mock Enayati and not the other way around.

Azizi is making stupid comments based on who? You? People? Who can define best what's stupid and what is not? Azizi or "people" ? The same way you think people on PFDC shouldn't criticize CQ because they are nothing more than fans, people shouldn't criticize and insult Azizi based on opinion He is in a better position than you and me to know what's best for TM.

Azizi is making stupid comments.


Stating that he could have gotten a 1-0 loss to Argentina if he was coach of TM is stupid. You probably think its stupid too.

Stating that playing defensive football is easy is stupid. Don't tell me that you don't agree.


And if Azizi is in a better position to judge, then Nekou, Ando, Dejagah, Mansourian, Yahya, Veisi, Amiri, etc.... are in a MUCH better position to judge because they are much closer to the matter than Azizi is.

[persian-eagle-13]

I thought CQ was paid between 3-4 million dollars/year?? So was said by a reporter a few days ago (10 miliard toman). And are GN and Daei really paid 1.5 million?

i do not think anyone knows how much he is making. it has not been published officially. everyone has different numbers. therefore there are many rumors about the price. i have heard from $1.5 million to $20 million!!! no one really knows

[Bi-honar]

Riight Nothing beyond that. Nope This surely explains away how you turned into a running joke behind the scenes by those who bothered to look up your name and looked into your activities And at least one of them threw it in your face while I personally held back until recently when I finally got fed up with your lunacy. There was nothing embarrassing about any of it Serious! Now write some more about cats and bird flu... or was it goats and AIDS... they sound equally rational.

My activities?! Running joke?! Behind the scenes?! Someone throwing something in my face and you holding back?!

Baba khoda shafat bedeh. You are obviously in dire need of a mental health professional if you're living in such a vivid imaginary world where you are some sort of a secret agent keeping track of everyone and their activities, knowing the people "behind the scenes" and promising to expose the deception of the super villains of the virtual world!!!

Honestly, as funny and entertaining as it is to read more of your fantasies, it's quite concerning that you can't make a distinction between the virtual world where you're some sort of superhero on an imaginary crusade to expose super villains (DD, Myself, ZJ, Ozone,...) and the real world where no one from these forums has ever seen you or even knows your name - where you are basically a nobody.

[persianallstars]

Azizi's reaction to this thread...

[xerexes]

No CV doesn't ring a bell, but I had my real estate licence on the side for a while, if that's what you're referring to. I made no secret of it and even helped a friend on ISP with a couple of transactions. So what Sherlock? You have sensitivities to real estate licences on top of all your other issues?!

Riight Nothing beyond that. Nope This surely explains away how you turned into a running joke behind the scenes by those who bothered to look up your name and looked into your activities And at least one of them threw it in your face while I personally held back until recently when I finally got fed up with your lunacy. There was nothing embarrassing about any of it Serious! Now write some more about cats and bird flu... or was it goats and AIDS... they sound equally rational.

[Bi-honar]

I don't think it gets more direct (or embarrassing) than saying you got caught by others making up imaginary resumes Which is something you seem quite used to for some reason! Now does the "CV" ring a bell or would you like me to be more direct? Because I'm looking to rent some apartments in Toronto

LOL. Why, you wanna stock me in person?!

No CV doesn't ring a bell, but I had my real estate licence on the side for a while, if that's what you're referring to. I made no secret of it and even helped a friend on ISP with a couple of transactions. So what Sherlock? You have sensitivities to real estate licences on top of all your other issues?!

[Camran khan]

well this shows the level of your knowledge and what you spew here. For your information, TM was training in Public Park before AC 2015 in their camp in Australia. LOOL so if you did not know that, i really should not have a conversation with you because it is hard to teach you everything that you should have known but you either ignore or do not want to know



i totally agree with you, we have so much talent that CQ is only forced to used practically the same 14-15 players in the last 4 years!! that is some talent pool we got that we success depends on having or not having pooladi or bekzade or montazeri for a game. i am we have lot of talent right that our existence depends on few players

you are absolutly right, we our clubs have not won the ACL for over 23 years!! i mean who cares about winning ACL, whats the point, let other "bad" leagues win the ACL.
really? so having a long camp equals to ALL the canceled friendly games!! so i agree we can have long camps to make up for all the friendly games, and hopefully we can be ready for Argentia, Nigeria, Bosnia or Asian teams who have camp before every friendly game, and have a friendly game on top and still have a camp before the tournament.
again i agree, we have so many practice fields that we do not know what to do with them. again you are showing your ignorance on information about our state of football
people get paid on time in iran!! news to me, i do not know what to say

oh i expected to do well in the wc too, i mean i was hoping to steam roll over nigera, win argentina by 2 goals and get a nice 3-4 goals against the poor bosnia. very reasonable expectation
you are right, my bad, i have been expected to go to the final with easy, considering we ALWAYS go to the final!!
Fair enough
conclusion is yes you are right in our DREAM $1.8 million sounds way too much. I would probably pay him $500K. that seems like a fair value when you consider QN and Daei make $1.5 million or most players make around $600-800k.

I thought CQ was paid between 3-4 million dollars/year?? So was said by a reporter a few days ago (10 miliard toman). And are GN and Daei really paid 1.5 million?

[xerexes]

Pas maloom shod harfe hesab baraye goftan nadari, vagar na mesle mard harfeto mizadi bejaaye in keh mesle dokhtar bacheha naaz konio, eshve biyay.

I don't think it gets more direct (or embarrassing) than saying you got caught by others making up imaginary resumes Which is something you seem quite used to for some reason! Now does the "CV" ring a bell or would you like me to be more direct? Because I'm looking to rent some apartments in Toronto

[tufun]

Allways same bulshit :CQ brought professionalism to our nation.
Our football is far away from professinal football.Iran have a pupulation of 80 mil but nobody could archive that since 50-60 years .But CQ did.
Can somebody tell me how ? And what is the meaning ?
He just banned many good players . wow that is great job.
He is in fight with 95 % of the Ipl coaches dosent matter iranian or foreign.
He is in fight with Fifa,Afc, FPF, IFF.....
He could not even work with the people he has chosen (tm staff)
He dosent care of the youth. Why ? Since 4 years he did invided 100 players for tm, but he is allways using same old players.
For just wasting our less tm preparation ?
At the end he get insulted becouse JB and Az played for omid. Cq is a fucking asshole why you did not use them the last 4 years?
At me he is just a big dictator, evreybody who is not subordinated to him, shall be punished or kicked

I will never forgive Cq ,couse he did kicked out Karimi as player and aslo as tm staff member.
Go to hell and fight there with the devil.

Bye Bye and come never back!!!

[Camran khan]

Exactly. Which proves a very sad point.

I'm gonna enter a state of denial now..
Well at least we can hope for better coaches in the future with Hashemian, Mansourian and Golmohammadi..
Lets just pray.

[K. Nader]

This is something that has been bugging me for quite a while..

First of all, I want to say that I love CQ, both as a coach and as a person, I have never been a coach be so nice to the fans, chatting with them, taking pics with all of them, letting them enter the TM bus! (in Australia) etc, he has worked with SAF who praised him so highly, he has coached Portugal at the 2010 world cup, who were only knocked out by 1 goal by the team that went on to win the tournament, he has coached some of the biggest name in world football, I wouldn't even call his season with Real Madrid that much of a failure, on paper, yes it was a failure, but for those of you who don't know, Real Madrid finished 4th, but were only 2 points shy of rivals Barcelona (who finished 2nd), and 7 points shy of the champions Valencia. Reason for them finishing so low (for Real Madrid's standards) was that they lost all of their last 5 games of the season, for what reason I don't know, but if it wasn't for that awful finish of the season they might have even become champions, they even won one of the el-clasico's in the season. Everything TM does now on the field has a purpose and is based on tactics, for instance, our corners, or our quick counter attacks, our tight defending etc. Navad made some great documentaries analyzing our games and described our tactics very well. For those who have not seen them, I suggest you watch them.

Now who the f*ck are GN, MK etc, who would not even be able to coach a 2nd division team in Sweden, let alone coach Portugal at the world cup, Real Madrid and work with SAF.


However, what bugs me, like hell, is some of the die hard ultra fans, who post the most ridiculous BS, to defend CQ, which itself is not needed at all, since his resume speaks for itself and is more than enough to shut critics up.

Stuff that is posted all the time like someone criticizing CQ, and the other side says 'yeah, well what about GN/MK/Daei' etc.. While no one mentioned any of those names, or things like were posted a few minutes ago in the Azmoun thread, about JB and SA leaving Iran to play in Europe is because of CQ These childish, ridiculous comments are not even needed to protect a man of CQ's caliber, it just makes a lot of you fans look bad, and annoys the hell out of a lot of readers (me included). And people who start crying and say 'bye bye to the world cup of 2018', 'I hope TM loses', 'I will never watch Iranian football again' etc.. What kind of fans are these poeple? No matter how we do we must always support our team, sure if CQ left the future would not look too bright, but lets not lose all hope and still believe in our team, that is the least we can do.



Btw, IMO Ferdowsipour AKA Keiroshipour seem to be one of the few only people in Iran who know something about International football.




Lol Ghotbi is not even a product of Iranian football, but American.

Exactly. Which proves a very sad point.

[Bi-honar]

You didn't understand.

Your definition of it being a reference to the cold war was outdated.

I provided you with a current definition which Iran falls in to.

You also didn't answer my question about Iran. Have you ever worked there? When was the last time you lived there?

LOL. One of us obviously cam't read, so no point for the other one (i.e. me) to keep typing.

You suck at reverse psychology You're not going to get me to stop calling out your clueless essays and I shouldn't have even held back all those months watching you babble and spread misinformed/dishonest nonsense. You don't want to be exposed for being a dolt? Consider getting a clue.


You don't want to do this Trust me. You know damn well I'm not the first person to bring this up to you. Here's just a pitty hint: When you make up fantasies about yourself, don't give away your full name. ... I actually felt so embarrassed for you when it was finally thrown in your face that I even sided with you.

Edited to add: Since you can't post without lying, I only got banned twice in 8 years on that other site. And the second time was for protesting their coddling of a troll... which you also got banned for! Now make up some other stuff.

Pas maloom shod harfe hesab baraye goftan nadari, vagar na mesle mard harfeto mizadi bejaaye in keh mesle dokhtar bacheha naaz konio, eshve biyay.

[Z Joon]

^ I would think that you know a 9th grader can't opine on 10th grade's curriculum..

Alright. Now tell me who and how we evaluate CQ's performance as a TM head-coach. Who evaluates his results and decides whether his contract should be extended or not? Do you think the person in charge has a higher degree or "curriculum" like you say than CQ?

Based on what you say only Mourinho and Guardiola can come and criticize/judge CQ's work right?

[rugs]

Alright, so tell me. Let's say Luis Figo disagrees with Paulo Bento's coaching of the NT. His opinion doesn't matter because he hasn't reached the "appropriate level" ?




No rugs, of course I don't get it, only you get it.

I constantly mock the people that mock Enayati and not the other way around.

Azizi is making stupid comments based on who? You? People? Who can define best what's stupid and what is not? Azizi or "people" ? The same way you think people on PFDC shouldn't criticize CQ because they are nothing more than fans, people shouldn't criticize and insult Azizi based on opinion He is in a better position than me and you to know what's best for TM.

Slow down there.

First I never said people can't criticize CQ.

Second, anyone can call them stupid because he is making assumptions he can't prove and seem to defy logic. When his comments are not based on anything, anyone can call them stupid.

Third, that doesn't take away anything from his playing career. You can be an idiot and a great footballer.

[Camran khan]

This is something that has been bugging me for quite a while..

First of all, I want to say that I love CQ, both as a coach and as a person, I have never been a coach be so nice to the fans, chatting with them, taking pics with all of them, letting them enter the TM bus! (in Australia) etc, he has worked with SAF who praised him so highly, he has coached Portugal at the 2010 world cup, who were only knocked out by 1 goal by the team that went on to win the tournament, he has coached some of the biggest name in world football, I wouldn't even call his season with Real Madrid that much of a failure, on paper, yes it was a failure, but for those of you who don't know, Real Madrid finished 4th, but were only 2 points shy of rivals Barcelona (who finished 2nd), and 7 points shy of the champions Valencia. Reason for them finishing so low (for Real Madrid's standards) was that they lost all of their last 5 games of the season, for what reason I don't know, but if it wasn't for that awful finish of the season they might have even become champions, they even won one of the el-clasico's in the season. Everything TM does now on the field has a purpose and is based on tactics, for instance, our corners, or our quick counter attacks, our tight defending etc. Navad made some great documentaries analyzing our games and described our tactics very well. For those who have not seen them, I suggest you watch them.

Now who the f*ck are GN, MK etc, who would not even be able to coach a 2nd division team in Sweden, let alone coach Portugal at the world cup, Real Madrid and work with SAF.


However, what bugs me, like hell, is some of the die hard ultra fans, who post the most ridiculous BS, to defend CQ, which itself is not needed at all, since his resume speaks for itself and is more than enough to shut critics up.

Stuff that is posted all the time like someone criticizing CQ, and the other side says 'yeah, well what about GN/MK/Daei' etc.. While no one mentioned any of those names, or things like were posted a few minutes ago in the Azmoun thread, about JB and SA leaving Iran to play in Europe is because of CQ These childish, ridiculous comments are not even needed to protect a man of CQ's caliber, it just makes a lot of you fans look bad, and annoys the hell out of a lot of readers (me included). And people who start crying and say 'bye bye to the world cup of 2018', 'I hope TM loses', 'I will never watch Iranian football again' etc.. What kind of fans are these poeple? No matter how we do we must always support our team, sure if CQ left the future would not look too bright, but lets not lose all hope and still believe in our team, that is the least we can do.



Btw, IMO Ferdowsipour AKA Keiroshipour seem to be one of the few only people in Iran who know something about International football.

And like ZandiJoon said, wtf is up with the foshe khahar madar against Azizi? Azizi is nothing as a coach, he knows nothing, his opinion is imo invalid, but why would people say such things to a man who as a footballer took us the world cup after not being in it for 20 years? He was a damn national legend few years ago, now people treat him like sh!t.

The furthest Iran has come to producing an international coach is Ghotbi.

Lol Ghotbi is not even a product of Iranian football, but American, that's how badbakht we are..