These are the idiots that run our country

[HRH]

CQ should be given a medal just for putting up with these clowns.... embarrassing is an understatement. Feel sorry for anyone associated with this medieval federation.

[euphory]

What's with the long empty spaces, clusterfuck of a letter.

[Nokhodi]

Just shameful. If one is incompetent at their job they should at least not lie.

[Armani]

srsly...

I mean if they dont want to pay money for a qualified translator, to translate 4 sentences; at leats they should look in IFF for someone who comes closest!
I mean we do have an AMERICAN TM Assistant and Goalkeeping coach, Mr. Dan Gaspar! They could at least let him have a look at that letter for god sake.
The worst thing that would happen would be Dan Gaspar to get a laugh attack instead of whole FIFA!!!

and the typical Iranian attitude, when he dismisses Ferdowsipour's claim and insists the lettter is correct!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOOOOL

I have expereinced this many many, too many times in business when I deal with Iranians, "faghat edeaaa daran, hichiyam balad nistan" and when they make mistakes, they blame everyone else except themsleves, and not in a civilised manner but with a fighting attitude....!

truly shameful!

How about the part he claims this is written by someone with a masters degree in English.

People trying to claim legitimacy for something they are obviously wrong about by summing up their degrees lol. We have some of them here as well.

On a serious note though, let's blame this on sanctions. We can't buy decent dictionaries and competent management.

[O-ZoNe]

It's probably because IFF doesn't have the funds to hire those people to translate those documents for them. If we volunteer and offer our services to them for free, I'm sure they would be thrilled.

2000 Toman (less than $2) to translate a 15 page CV, and Degree parchment with official certification seals and approval stamps. I am sure 1 letter wouldn't be a problem for IFF. Again, it's incompetence, laziness, and a bit of what we see on these forums, misguided and incorrect assumptions of what is and what is not available. No offense intended, but I doubt anyone in IFF make any effort to do any meaningful research about anything. Like Ferdowsipour said, it's obvious this was a google translate copy past job.

[clipsport]

Yeah, but do you think they will have an ounce of respect towards the country which the letter came from ??

Yes I agree. Iranian Football has very little respect in FIFA. The worst thing is the large number of foreign players and coaches who have filed and won complaints against Iranian clubs for not getting paid.

But lets not forget that FIFA is also a very corrupt organization itself. The only thing they respect is money.

[AminGP]

Amin jaan, I've been giving this some thought and I think you're absolutely right on this point.

Correct me if I'm wrong people, but isn't PFDC the largest / most popular English language forum for TM fans?

Is there any particular reason we can't have a direct line of communications with IFF or at least a representative there?

I know we blame the IFF for everything, but should we not as a group be doing our part to change things? Has anything like that ever been suggested to IFF and rejected?

There's obviously a certain advantage to IFF having a network of capable volunteers in every country, to do something as simple as translating documents into different languages, to doing the preliminary work on arranging friendlies, or even getting the ball rolling for player tryouts or discussions for players agents.

IFF is definitely suffering from some limitations, whether they're self-imposed or due to sanctions, can we not help alleviate some of these issues?!

I think we can definetly help. I'm not sure if anyone in this forum has tried to reach IFF before but we can definetly offer our help to them. It doesn't hurt to try so I would suggest someone who writes official farsi letters well to put something together and we'll send it to them. I can write farsi but I've never written a formal letter before. I think KC who was born and raised in Iran and also let's not forget that he went to "Sharif" should know how to write formal letters :-)

[AminGP]

There are thousands of document certifying and translating agencies in Iran. They do wonderful jobs for pennies on the dollar. I had to go through this for immigration paperwork and if it was good enough for those nations and their official standards, it will certainly suffice for FIFA. In fact, foreign countries often request you send your paperwork to certain locations within cities in Iran as they are pre-approved certified in the work they do. IFF could reach out to them, and I am sure they would take the business on. This was just pure laziness, sticking it into Google Translate and sending the text as is.

It's probably because IFF doesn't have the funds to hire those people to translate those documents for them. If we volunteer and offer our services to them for free, I'm sure they would be thrilled.

[O-ZoNe]

This isn't just a case of translation IMHO Ozone jaan. It's about knowing how to write official letters, knowing procedures, etc.

There are thousands of document certifying and translating agencies in Iran. They do wonderful jobs for pennies on the dollar. I had to go through this for immigration paperwork and if it was good enough for those nations and their official standards, it will certainly suffice for FIFA. In fact, foreign countries often request you send your paperwork to certain locations within cities in Iran as they are pre-approved certified in the work they do. IFF could reach out to them, and I am sure they would take the business on. This was just pure laziness, sticking it into Google Translate and sending the text as is.

[Bi-honar]

IFF is clearly capable of finding adequate English speakers. I mean they have no difficulty finding translators for various coaches, and there are certainly thousands if not millions of Iranians within Iran who have great English skills. Just walk down any major blvd and look at all the official translating services available. This is not an issue of having resources, this is an issue of being lazy, incompetent or leaving things till the last minute....that my friends, PFDC cannot help with...

This isn't just a case of translation IMHO Ozone jaan. It's about knowing how to write official letters, knowing procedures, etc.

[O-ZoNe]

Amin jaan, I've been giving this some thought and I think you're absolutely right on this point.

Correct me if I'm wrong people, but isn't PFDC the largest / most popular English language forum for TM fans?

Is there any particular reason we can't have a direct line of communications with IFF or at least a representative there?

I know we blame the IFF for everything, but should we not as a group be doing our part to change things? Has anything like that ever been suggested to IFF and rejected?

There's obviously a certain advantage to IFF having a network of capable volunteers in every country, to do something as simple as translating documents into different languages, to doing the preliminary work on arranging friendlies, or even getting the ball rolling for player tryouts or discussions for players agents.

IFF is definitely suffering from some limitations, whether they're self-imposed or due to sanctions, can we not help alleviate some of these issues?!

IFF is clearly capable of finding adequate English speakers. I mean they have no difficulty finding translators for various coaches, and there are certainly thousands if not millions of Iranians within Iran who have great English skills. Just walk down any major blvd and look at all the official translating services available. This is not an issue of having resources, this is an issue of being lazy, incompetent or leaving things till the last minute....that my friends, PFDC cannot help with...

[Bi-honar]

Why don't we send an e-mail to IFF and offer our help to them? There are plenty of knowledgable people here on the forum who speak and write english well and they can help IFF to save themselves an embarrassment.

Amin jaan, I've been giving this some thought and I think you're absolutely right on this point.

Correct me if I'm wrong people, but isn't PFDC the largest / most popular English language forum for TM fans?

Is there any particular reason we can't have a direct line of communications with IFF or at least a representative there?

I know we blame the IFF for everything, but should we not as a group be doing our part to change things? Has anything like that ever been suggested to IFF and rejected?

There's obviously a certain advantage to IFF having a network of capable volunteers in every country, to do something as simple as translating documents into different languages, to doing the preliminary work on arranging friendlies, or even getting the ball rolling for player tryouts or discussions for players agents.

IFF is definitely suffering from some limitations, whether they're self-imposed or due to sanctions, can we not help alleviate some of these issues?!

[Amin_]

LOL did Morjad write this letter?

LMAO! I was thinking the same as I was reading the letter.

The only thing missing is "and azizi wrold shamblon of asia soocre and this lettre evrey bad inglish and daei wrold shamblon of the woldr and abdoodool alaf zrha evry bad playre and mikilaka every good paylre and daei best payler in pas tanks morjad".


Ah man how I miss morjad tanks amin

[Damavand]

No. Are you kidding me.
All I'm saying is that the person reading this will understand what IFF is asking for. Regardless of how unprofessional and poorly it is written.
Btw, this is definitely an improvement to that letter sent to AFC by Aboumoslem last year.

Yeah, but do you think they will have an ounce of respect towards the country which the letter came from ??

[Adesor Vafaseya]

srsly...

I mean if they dont want to pay money for a qualified translator, to translate 4 sentences; at leats they should look in IFF for someone who comes closest!
I mean we do have an AMERICAN TM Assistant and Goalkeeping coach, Mr. Dan Gaspar! They could at least let him have a look at that letter for god sake.
The worst thing that would happen would be Dan Gaspar to get a laugh attack instead of whole FIFA!!!

and the typical Iranian attitude, when he dismisses Ferdowsipour's claim and insists the lettter is correct!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOOOOL

I have expereinced this many many, too many times in business when I deal with Iranians, "faghat edeaaa daran, hichiyam balad nistan" and when they make mistakes, they blame everyone else except themsleves, and not in a civilised manner but with a fighting attitude....!

truly shameful!