Do you support banning women from going to stadiums?

[Shah Abbas]

The way you have set the Poll options is laughable.

It is the RIGHT of women to also attend Football matches.
However, as someone who went to Azadi this summer and seeing the 'Aghab moondeh' people, I wouldn't want my family members especially the WOMEN to go there.

They should first create a section just for Women and gradually after couple of years mix the stadium with Men and women.
But, to just let women go to stadiums in Iran now is an idiotic decision and would have many consequences and I have no doubt one will be: sexual attacks on women

[_Navid_]

Looks like we have a few Basiji IR supporters in PFDC!

[Rumez]

Of course women should have the rite to go to the stadium. That is a no brainer and shouldn't be asked.

Having said that though the behavior and swearing at matches in Iran are just amazing and I have not witnessed them anywhere else in the world.

When I went to PP v SS a few years back and Nikbakht had just left SS the entire blue section (every single one of them....around 50,000 people) were chanting "Nikbakht K%$$ Nanat" I was dumbfounded. I have heard swearing by both sexes at sports before but a massive chant like that I have never seen.

So the question in my opinion should be......Even if they were allowed, would you want your mum, sister, wife, etc in that environment?

I did get the chance to watch PP v Poly Acril of Esfehan way back when Ali mousavi And Hashem Heydari were playing! (Winter of 1998)
My friend was a PP supporter and I just went along.
Coming from a respectful and clean speaking family, I was astounded at the level of vulgarity of the PP supporters!
Then it was about the late Naser Hejazi's family! (I think he was the manager for SS back then)
They cursed his son Atilla and heis daughter Atessa!
"Atilla khoshkele, shekle mamashe(?) $%%$ ma ghermeza $ (#(*#&) babashe(?)!!"
They also chanted the infamous "Sheere samavar ...." which I regretfully participated in chanting!!

My friend insisted on joinning the hardcore PP supporters at their usual spot in the stand, which I obliged.
Just to leave when a Taraghe exploded next to us and we almost got into an altercation with the bastards who threw it!
So we moved to the center where the neutral and normal people were!

So I support your claims to the toxic atmosphere there, which I'm sure has gotten worse!
I'd never thought our people will desert our Team Melli and mock them by supporting a foreign team which we witnessed last year when Davari Conceded two against Guinea in Azadi!
That's us Iranians! That's our people! It saddens me that it is the case, but it is what it is!

Now in the case of women in the stadiums, of course yes!
Now, you'd say they can't shouldn't and who would we want our mothers & sisters to go there!?

Well, almost nobody would at the current conditions, but one reason it is as dirty and uncivilized is because it's a men only venue!
Us men need women to keep us at our best behavior at all times!
We are shameless creatures and women are the ones who care more about social etiquette than us!
So, eventually and over time it will improve.

It takes some time and some major effort in openning the Iranian society to recover from 36 years of segregation of sexes, but it will come!

[sirvan]

What kind of question is this? lmao
Of course not, I don't think any logical Iranian would, atleast outside Iran. Too bad our backward and moronic government has translated Islam into not letting women go to stadiums. Only issue from my first hand experiences is that many weird guys go to the Azadi, trust me, a lot. They say stuff that's pretty nasty. I would separate men and women and see how that goes first.

Islam/qu'ran promotes segregation between men and women, so IR is not making things up here.

[CAGE]

LOL what an idiotic thread especially the way you worded the poll do you enjoy discriminating? News flash genius people who discriminate dont think they are discriminating, its like making a poll do you enjoy being a horrible smelly penis wrinkle/douchebag yes or no? LOL

[AsOen5]

It's not about discrimination. I am not sure whether we should allow women joining stadium in Iran. We should maybe start with allowing them take seperate places from men. Because we all know how rude men would treat them.

[babak_australia]

I am ashamed that we as a people allow our government to do this. I am ashamed that we as a people ban our women, and do not realize that women are smarter and stronger than men will ever be.

What are YOU going to do about it mate?

Living in your first world country and making such an unreasonable statement as though it is the peoples fault that things are the way they are. Should a woman be the first to go to the stadium and then get punished. These people work by fear and believe the fear of the power is very very real. I cant blame them. I wish it was different but I am old enough to know better.

I propose you be the leader and lead the country of Iran out of this funk they are in. All hail the saviour.

I go to Iran once a year and while things change. The one thing that doesn't is the power at the top.

I am born and raised in Australia and do not believe it is my right to judge the people of Iran for being in the situation they are in.

[Kaveh Ahangar]

The only foreseeable reason for voting 'yes' would be as a consequence of the participant's latent homosexuality, manifesting as a desire to increase the number of penii in the stadium.
Thereby creating an absolute sausage-fest.

[teammelli8080]

Do I think women should be banned? Absolutely not, women should be allowed in the stadiums.
However, given the current environment, would I support my mother, sister, daughter, aunt, cousin to go and sit amongst uncivilized men to watch the game? No, the sexual harassment alone would probably discourage them from going.
If an environment can be created for women to go watch games then I would support it 100%. I clearly don't want to see women and men separated in different sections..but maybe a family section would be appropriate.
Also we need more security guards at the stadiums to clamp down on unruly behavior then we can be civilized people.

Of course women should have the rite to go to the stadium. That is a no brainer and shouldn't be asked.
Having said that though the behavior and swearing at matches in Iran are just amazing and I have not witnessed them anywhere else in the world.
When I went to PP v SS a few years back and Nikbakht had just left SS the entire blue section (every single one of them....around 50,000 people) were chanting "Nikbakht K%$$ Nanat" I was dumbfounded. I have heard swearing by both sexes at sports before but a massive chant like that I have never seen.
So the question in my opinion should be......Even if they were allowed, would you want your mum, sister, wife, etc in that environment?

i used to think it was ridiculous, then i actually went to some games..

I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think with the current situation in our stadiums, particularly for league games (TM games are a bit more tame), then ideally if women are allowed, it should be a separate section. I have been going to league games (mostly in azadi) over the past 5-10 years, and it's getting worse by the year. people are out of control, not just in cursing. the cursing is bad enough (we're talking nonsense k*r and k*s and chants like shove that red flag up your a** and the entire stadium shouting k*****rrrrrr when the opposition fans sigh at a close opportunity). this is just normal play.. if you ever see someone actually make a mistake it is literally out of control, people start combining curses that don't even make sense, just to swear.

People that are saying it should be womens' choice are not considering the environment. This is a country where sexual harassment, from "tikke andakhtan" to genuine physical harassment, is really common. in an environment that people lose control.. don't forget that people died IN A FREAKING STAMPEDE in the japan game. i can imagine so much going wrong.

so if things are to change, it needs to be slow and gradual. first step would be a heavily-guarded women's-only section. next would be a women's only section but then families can sit together in the men's section (similar to iranian cinemas). last would be full integration (similar to how it is in iranian comedy/music shows).

[Persian-Pride87]

The decision of whether your mom will potentially subject herself to men cussing in a stadium should be her choice.

well, i cant convince you otherwise. Just saying that I wouldn't want my mom or anyone else to see a man at their lowest low cussing away the way they do. That being said I don't mean to suggest that it should be a law that prevents women from attending. I just don't support the idea of them attending WHILE Iranian men cuss in the stadiums.

[Persian-Pride87]

This is the dumbest poll ever. No one living in the 21st century should ever support banning women from stadiums. Its an unjust, embarrassing, counter-productive, irrational law.

[hzv]

Of course women should have the rite to go to the stadium. That is a no brainer and shouldn't be asked.

Having said that though the behavior and swearing at matches in Iran are just amazing and I have not witnessed them anywhere else in the world.

When I went to PP v SS a few years back and Nikbakht had just left SS the entire blue section (every single one of them....around 50,000 people) were chanting "Nikbakht K%$$ Nanat" I was dumbfounded. I have heard swearing by both sexes at sports before but a massive chant like that I have never seen.

So the question in my opinion should be......Even if they were allowed, would you want your mum, sister, wife, etc in that environment?

and the women can chant k00neh babat. women can swear too.

[ameri]

you sir are part of the problem. this is called segregation buddy. again, choice is powerful thing. I don't want my girlfriend / wife to need your permission in order to hear cussing or to cuss

well, i cant convince you otherwise. Just saying that I wouldn't want my mom or anyone else to see a man at their lowest low cussing away the way they do. That being said I don't mean to suggest that it should be a law that prevents women from attending. I just don't support the idea of them attending WHILE Iranian men cuss in the stadiums.

[Farbakhsh]

I am ashamed that we as a people allow our government to do this. I am ashamed that we as a people ban our women, and do not realize that women are smarter and stronger than men will ever be.

[KC McElroy]

Of course women should have the rite to go to the stadium. That is a no brainer and shouldn't be asked.

Having said that though the behavior and swearing at matches in Iran are just amazing and I have not witnessed them anywhere else in the world.

When I went to PP v SS a few years back and Nikbakht had just left SS the entire blue section (every single one of them....around 50,000 people) were chanting "Nikbakht K%$$ Nanat" I was dumbfounded. I have heard swearing by both sexes at sports before but a massive chant like that I have never seen.

So the question in my opinion should be......Even if they were allowed, would you want your mum, sister, wife, etc in that environment?

I would want my mum, sister (provided she is old enough to make such decisions), wife, etc to make that decision themselves.