Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

[Camran khan]

You're special dadash.
Stop trying to act defensive when people prove you wrong, many have already told you that but you never seem to learn.
If you can't respond to everyone's logical arguments here without getting wound up, then let's stop here.

Stop bullying him!

[Kiarash]

Reading these ''discussions'' makes me miss clipsport, at least he could add some fire to the fuel

[PersianLegion]

I mean it's not like we don't have any foreigners in the coaching staff and minorities in TM. IR has problem with sunnies, let's see how many we have in TM
Vouria Ghafouri (Kurd, Sunni)
Sardar Azmoun, (Turkmen, Sunni)
Ezatolah Pourghaz (Turkmen, Sunni)
Kaveh Rezaie (Kurd)
Bakhtiar Rahmani (Kurd, Sunni)
Andranik Teymourian (Armenian, Christian)
Markar Aghajaniyan (Armenian, Christian)
Carlos Querioz (Portuguese, Christian)
Dan Gaspar (American, Christian)
Cruz (Portuguese, Christian)
Diego Giacchino (Argentinian, Christian)
And that's just from top of my head

You made me curious. Have we ever had any Jewish, Zoroastrian or Bahai player, coach, staff in TM after revolution? If you know please name them.

[Ghermez Agha]

I think it's just as big of an assumption to think CQ doesn't rate Beitashour, despite a majority of people who hated the guy a year ago here on PFDC when he was actually being called up are now saying he deserves a call-up based on his current form. That's not an assumption, but something that makes logical sense (IFF doesn't like Beita for whatever reason, maybe expensive flight, but as far as I had read, was because of him and Davari's lack of Iranian-ness) but that's just an assumption.
Doesn't Camran find it strange that Davari and Beita were both dropped and never heard from again after the same camp? I personally find that strange as Davari was not yet benched at Grasshopper, and it was strange at the time he was dropped, even though in hindsight people can now say Davari isn't playing today and doesn't deserve a call-up. And maybe Beita didn't deserve a call-up due to his form and injuries at the time, but now, that he is in form he isn't being called up. Yes, these are assumptions, but with Iranian newspapers saying it last year right after they stopped being called up, and the fact that neither were called up again is just suspicious. We don't know, but we can use our logic to determine what is the case.
Evidence in favor of Beita not being rated by CQ:
None, except for random people on this forums' speculations.
Evidence of Beita not being invited because of pressure from IFF:
Newspaper articles from last year saying IFF pressured Davari and Beita out of the team due to their heritage.
Davari and Beita both being dropped after the same camp, despite both having times when it didn't make sense for them to not be invited.
Beita has been in form for the better part of 3 months, if not longer, and we need a backup RB of quality for the upcoming friendlies due to Ghafouri missing. Yet, he is still not invited?
It's strange that when a coach needs an experienced, in form player to fill an injured players spot, has one, but won't invite him. But yes, these are all assumptions out of my butt by me. Not as concrete as "uhh, I don't think CQ thinks Beita is very good." Hard to argue with that expert analysis.
If Camran would like to break down any evidence he has to disprove my assumption, please, lay it out for me.

Its an educated assumption to assume CQ doesn't rate beita based on the fact that beita finished out his season in great form with vancouver and was NOT invited to the AC at a time where fullback spots were open for the taking with mahini absent and pooladi's status up in the air until several weeks before the team departed to australia.

The notion of beita being a lack of an iranian or whatnot was started by non other than PFDC's all time biggest troll in clipsport and it ended with him...other than him I haven't heard of such a stupid and ridiculous claim so yet again you exxagerate in an attempt to make a point.

Please provide one link to this conspiracy of yours you are so adamant about because that is the first time I am hearing it.

The break down was already given to you by several members to disprove your ridiculous conspiracy......why the heck would we have so much diversity (probably an all time high) in both our roster and our coaching staff for the federation to give a damn about 2 guys that would ride the bench at best if they were a part of TM?

How many times have you seen Beitashour play for TM? Davari 4 times, and Beita 6? How many opportunities have players like Shojaei gotten in the past when they didn't even have clubs and 99.9% of us fans know is not TM quality? It's funny how some of you think there is some conspiracy why Shojaei gets invited (party bazi or whatever), and you guys all whine and bitch about him being invited, but doing the same thing to explain why Beita isn't being invited = Z Joon "Bro, respect CQ's invitations."
Honestly, I think I've heard you, yes you, Mr. Z Joon, complain and theorize about the reasons for certain players invitations and CQ's choices more than anyone on this forum. Don't make me into some crazy conspiracy theorist when I question and quote Iranian papers for why 2 players aren't invited, but then you hypocritically question party bazi and other rumors from these newspapers for players you want out of TM. Don't make me follow CQ's invitations as gospel of player quality, then turn around and question CQ's choices of out-of-form players. Clearly TM is not a reflection of the best choices. Without Ghafouri playing, which experienced RB do you think is better? Heydari? The guy who will likely fill Ghafouri's place as the experienced RB for CQ. Do you want to sit here, and really tell me that you believe that any rational person in Iran would argue that Heydari is one of the best players in Iran to deserve a TM call-up at this point? You won't say that with a straight face. There is plenty of peculiar things in TM, and you all know it, but when it fits your script, you whine and cry, but when I notice peculiar call-up choices... "OH AFAT YOU'RE CRAZY."
It's funny that the same gang of 4-5 people always argue with me. This forum is shit at this point. You people are the worst. You quiet people like me down. People like Team Melli Fan who disagree with you and then are bullied into silence message me and say how much of _________ some of you are (fill in the blank with your favorite curse word). I can screen cap some messages I've received out of the blue from random PFDC members who you Z Joon have personally driven away who curse the shit out of you. Would you like to see? I'll PM you. You 4 love to sit in a circle and blow each other to your dumbass opinions, but at least other than you 4 I doubt you get random messages from member talking about you. I get random messages from people telling me that you and Camran are _____________. It's the only reason I respond to you 4-5 members. So let me know and I'll PM both you and Camran.

The bold is the problem and proves the point of you developing a conspiracy or rather buying into the ones published by the media which is known world wide to be the king's of starting rumors and theories....the amount of BS Iranian media oozes is worse than anywhere. the only time anything should be believed is when it comes straight from a player or a coach.


There's two things I can tell about you personally after reading your posts:
1. you love to exxhagerate in desperation to prove a point
2. you're as sensitive as it gets

- if you genuinely think this forum is shit then why are you writing essay's every time you want to rant about something? also when have zjoon or camran cursed at you or done anything that crosses the line? you should take a closer look at what a lot of other people here get away with in the past and present before you label them as such.

[TheBoss]

You made me curious. Have we ever had any Jewish, Zoroastrian or Bahai player, coach, staff in TM after revolution? If you know please name them.

not as far as I know, unfortunately.

[Afat11]

I'm pretty sure that I was the only one arguing with clipsport's stupidity at the time. It's funny that I argued with clipsport's stupid Beita bashing is gone. I argued with Javeed over his generally idiotic comments. He's gone. I argued with cap420, he's gone.

All we have left is Z Joon and Camran. I'm on the crazy side at least. I would hate to be on the clipsport/Javeed side of the argument that Z Joon and Camran are. FYI, Camran I truly dislike you. Z Joons a troll and it's clear he has nothing better to do. You hide and say you want the argument to end then jump back in with an insult.

People can see how backhanded you really are. End the goddamn argument if you're such a peace-maker. You add fuel to the fire, hence you're the evolution of clipsport and Javeed. Z Joon is on their level of mediocre trolling, you on the other hand have mastered it. I can see why Z Joon loves your wang so much, he must be your apprentice troll in training.

[PersianLegion]

Ino negah konid beham naparid!

Ina to 80s ham hal mikardan bara khodeshon

[TheBoss]

This thread has everything. It's peak PFDC. It should be archived and revisited back every couple years for sheer hilarity of it all.

[Afat11]

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[Z Joon]

[Camran khan]

I'm pretty sure that I was the only one arguing with clipsport's stupidity at the time. It's funny that I argued with clipsport's stupid Beita bashing is gone. I argued with Javeed over his generally idiotic comments. He's gone. I argued with cap420, he's gone.
All we have left is Z Joon and Camran. I'm on the crazy side at least. I would hate to be on the clipsport/Javeed side of the argument that Z Joon and Camran are. FYI, Camran I truly dislike you. Z Joons a troll and it's clear he has nothing better to do. You hide and say you want the argument to end then jump back in with an insult.
People can see how backhanded you really are. End the goddamn argument if you're such a peace-maker. You add fuel to the fire, hence you're the evolution of clipsport and Javeed. Z Joon is on their level of mediocre trolling, you on the other hand have mastered it. I can see why Z Joon loves your wang so much, he must be your apprentice troll in training.

The reason I respond to your posts with some short, sarcastic comment, is because you post some serious stupid stuff that is not really worth arguing. Stuff like you did in this thread, or you saying 'IPL players are worth less than my sh!t' and that you start to cry everytime someone disagrees with you. These are things that are seriously not worth arguing against. Stop acting like a 14 year old spoiled girl who cries cause her parents didn't buy her the latest iPhone.


Damn, my biggest dream was for you to like me, now I really don't know what to do..

[Afat11]

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[Camran khan]

I think it's time for the mods to start cleaning up PFDC..

[Karimi 8]

PFDC is back

[Ghermez Agha]

I'm pretty sure that I was the only one arguing with clipsport's stupidity at the time. It's funny that I argued with clipsport's stupid Beita bashing is gone. I argued with Javeed over his generally idiotic comments. He's gone. I argued with cap420, he's gone.
All we have left is Z Joon and Camran. I'm on the crazy side at least. I would hate to be on the clipsport/Javeed side of the argument that Z Joon and Camran are. FYI, Camran I truly dislike you. Z Joons a troll and it's clear he has nothing better to do. You hide and say you want the argument to end then jump back in with an insult.
People can see how backhanded you really are. End the goddamn argument if you're such a peace-maker. You add fuel to the fire, hence you're the evolution of clipsport and Javeed. Z Joon is on their level of mediocre trolling, you on the other hand have mastered it. I can see why Z Joon loves your wang so much, he must be your apprentice troll in training.

you were certainly not the only one but rather one of many....here is all the evidence you need (in fact I dont even see a response from you in the first 10 pages of his first post): http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...am-Melli-Video