Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

[irani8perspolis]

I dont agree with that ive watched him play in MLS before he even came to TM with then the earthquakes he was an all star then and his still one of the best defenders the whitecaps have.His never been an offensive player.When did All iranians players become the best players at their positions for this guy to be a Dani Alves.Those players u named are majority IPL players which is a lower league then MLS which isn't a good league to beginning with.


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in terms of quality and technique IPL is years ahead of MLS. What our league doesn't have is Henry or Beckham. If you take a team of all iranian IPL players and all american MLS players, the Americans would be outclassed.

[mehdiKia15]

Beitashour had a TM career under CQ?!

not much of one but with a vatani coach coming in he sure wont have any. Sort of like when Zandi came to iran.lol


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[mehdiKia15]

in terms of quality and technique IPL is years ahead of MLS. What our league doesn't have is Henry or Beckham. If you take a team of all iranian IPL players and all american MLS players, the Americans would be outclassed.

R u been serious... ur telling me that IPl is a head of MLS.Dude watch Navad once in a while see how much of joke the league is.When ur senior Coach falls asleep during matches that says alot abt the league


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[irani8perspolis]

R u been serious... ur telling me that IPl is a head of MLS.Dude watch Navad once in a while see how much of joke the league is.When ur senior Coach falls asleep during matches that says alot abt the league


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yes IPL is better than MLS, it is sad that a league at its lowest point, with no organization no proper facilities is years ahead in terms of quality than a rich league.

[mehdiKia15]

Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

yes IPL is better than MLS, it is sad that a league at its lowest point, with no organization no proper facilities is years ahead in terms of quality than a rich league.

Aslan ur argument is not valid to me.Its ur opinion which is fine but ive been watching both leagues and if i were to compare players wise the MLS has got way better players then IPL. Again i think both leagues are crap.The MLS is way ahead in technic and development then IPL players.toosh shobati nist.If IPL players had the resources then i would say u have a point but as of now IPL is not close at all.


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[Kiarash]

A fixed MLS player like Beitashour is barely a benchwarmer for TM, I think that says a lot about the level of MLS.

[Z Joon]

Aslan ur argument is not valid to me.Its ur opinion which is fine but ive been watching both leagues and if i were to compare players wise the MLS has got way better players then IPL. Again i think both leagues are crap.The MLS is way ahead in technic and development then IPL players.toosh shobati nist.If IPL players had the resources then i would say u have a point but as of now IPL is not close at all.

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Stop trolling please. If Steven is one of the best RBs in the league as you say, Ghafouri from the IPL eats him any day of the week. Even Ramin Rezaeian from Rah Ahan who are dead last in the league is better, younger, more talented than him.
Our league is full of talented players that people like you have no idea about until they see them with TM.

Now you go worry about what happens when a vatani coach comes to TM and stops inviting a 4rth/5th choice RB and GK, I think you seem to master that well.

[Ghermez Agha]

we have fullbacks in our 4th division that deserve to be on TM more than him.

that's a HUGE exaggeration and you know it......

I do agree he isn't better than ghafouri, rezaeian and pouladi but aside from that what our other options? maybe I would put vakia ahead of him too but even if, he is still better than majority of fullbacks in the PGL.

- heydari sucks. he is getting worse and worse by the day and should be nowhere near TM. he flopped in the WC and flopped again in the AC.
- hajsafi isn't a LB and when he plays in that position problems arise....he isn't very good at man marking, not as good as beita at least.
- khanzadeh still has to improve a lot more to be considered for TM.
- jamaati is hyped up as hell, CQ cut him before the WC and hasn't invited him since...beita made the cut over him for a reason.


IMO he was definitely pretty weak towards the end of last season in the MLS and his exclusion from TM was pretty justified but when in form playing like he did in the earthquakes, which he is showing sparks of again, is more than deserving of a call up.

[Z Joon]

that's a HUGE exaggeration and you know it......

I do agree he isn't better than ghafouri, rezaeian and pouladi but aside from that what our other options? maybe I would put vakia ahead of him too but even if, he is still better than majority of fullbacks in the PGL.

- heydari sucks. he is getting worse and worse by the day and should be nowhere near TM. he flopped in the WC and flopped again in the AC.
- hajsafi isn't a LB and when he plays in that position problems arise....he isn't very good at man marking, not as good as beita at least.
- khanzadeh still has to improve a lot more to be considered for TM.
- jamaati is hyped up as hell, CQ cut him before the WC and hasn't invited him since...beita made the cut over him for a reason.


IMO he was definitely pretty weak towards the end of last season in the MLS and his exclusion from TM was pretty justified but when in form playing like he did in the earthquakes, which he is showing sparks of again, is more than deserving of a call up.

GA jan, with all due respect here is what I think of this

Having watched enough of Steven and the league players, I estimate these RBs (no LBs, as Steven will probably never play in that position for TM) are better or as good as Beitashour:

-Ghafouri, Rezaeian, Vakia, Montazeri, Fardin Abedini. Khanzadeh, Fakhreddini (as much as I hate the latter) are at least as good as he is, and as you can see for yourself Carlos invites Khanzadeh frequently already, can't say the same for Steven.
Beitashour is probably slightly better than Mahini. I would qualify him as above average for Iranian standards, while we have much better. And the thing is, if you noticed, except Montazeri, all of these guys are also much younger than Steven.

Now let's say he is terribly in-form, he will get his call up, probably regardless of the coach now that he has been discovered and scouted, however most of the time I can't see him better than a 3rd choice RB. Even for his own sake, I wouldn't come all the way from Canada to sit on TM bench, I don't think it's worth it for him either.

[Camran khan]

- hajsafi isn't a LB and when he plays in that position problems arise....he isn't very good at man marking, not as good as beita at least.

Why do you say that? Because of the Iraq game? If so, first goal conceded, the scorer wasn't Hajsafi's man to mark even though it was on the left side, Hajsafi was covering his man just fine. On the second goal, even though his positioning could've been slightly better (arguable, wouldn't say there was anything wrong with his positioning there either), he couldn't estimate that the ball would bounce off our players all the way to the player behind him.
If that's not why, then accept my apologies and nevermind this post.

[irani8perspolis]

that's a HUGE exaggeration and you know it......

I do agree he isn't better than ghafouri, rezaeian and pouladi but aside from that what our other options? maybe I would put vakia ahead of him too but even if, he is still better than majority of fullbacks in the PGL.

- heydari sucks. he is getting worse and worse by the day and should be nowhere near TM. he flopped in the WC and flopped again in the AC.
- hajsafi isn't a LB and when he plays in that position problems arise....he isn't very good at man marking, not as good as beita at least.
- khanzadeh still has to improve a lot more to be considered for TM.
- jamaati is hyped up as hell, CQ cut him before the WC and hasn't invited him since...beita made the cut over him for a reason.


IMO he was definitely pretty weak towards the end of last season in the MLS and his exclusion from TM was pretty justified but when in form playing like he did in the earthquakes, which he is showing sparks of again, is more than deserving of a call up.

aziz of course it is a exaggeration, but we both know their are 8-9 more deserving fullbacks than stevie

[Ghermez Agha]

aziz of course it is a exaggeration, but we both know their are 8-9 more deserving fullbacks than stevie

Could you please name a few other than Pooladi, ghafouri, rezaeian, and vakia?

[Ghermez Agha]

GA jan, with all due respect here is what I think of this

Having watched enough of Steven and the league players, I estimate these RBs (no LBs, as Steven will probably never play in that position for TM) are better or as good as Beitashour:

-Ghafouri, Rezaeian, Vakia, Montazeri, Fardin Abedini. Khanzadeh, Fakhreddini (as much as I hate the latter) are at least as good as he is, and as you can see for yourself Carlos invites Khanzadeh frequently already, can't say the same for Steven.
Beitashour is probably slightly better than Mahini. I would qualify him as above average for Iranian standards, while we have much better. And the thing is, if you noticed, except Montazeri, all of these guys are also much younger than Steven.

Now let's say he is terribly in-form, he will get his call up, probably regardless of the coach now that he has been discovered and scouted, however most of the time I can't see him better than a 3rd choice RB. Even for his own sake, I wouldn't come all the way from Canada to sit on TM bench, I don't think it's worth it for him either.

Fair enough point, I don't fully agree but agree with most of it. Khanzadeh has been a head scratcher for me because unlike all other suspect players that have been invited under CQ throughout his tenure, he hasn't shown a lot of growth or improvement and has been in poor form for PP for a while. I agree that he has great potential but I don't see any signs of improvement in his game, just my opinion as a red.

[irani8perspolis]

Could you please name a few other than Pooladi, ghafouri, rezaeian, and vakia?

Beikzadeh, Hatami,(he is on bad form rn but was best RB in the league at nim-fasl imo), Jamaati, Hajsafi (still better than stevie imo), Fardin Abedini (spectacular in last few games), and lastly Majid Majidi (don't know why he hasnt been called up yet) St.Mark has more info on him, he has been one of the best fullbacks in the league this year and suprise suprise.. he played in the Azadegan League last year!

[mehdiKia15]

Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

Stop trolling please. If Steven is one of the best RBs in the league as you say, Ghafouri from the IPL eats him any day of the week. Even Ramin Rezaeian from Rah Ahan who are dead last in the league is better, younger, more talented than him.
Our league is full of talented players that people like you have no idea about until they see them with TM.

Now you go worry about what happens when a vatani coach comes to TM and stops inviting a 4rth/5th choice RB and GK, I think you seem to master that well.

MLS is a shity league but still is a better league then IPL any footy fan would agree.

I think u need to stop Trolling stay on the topic that was which league was better and it had nothing to do with vatani coach or foreign.I know your pissed at my response to ur smartass comment in a previous thread.Akhey am so scared of a guy behind his computer telling what to do.Tough guy GRow up buddy!I left Iran so I can have an opinion you dont like it then go back home to IRan u would fit in very well with the rest of them !


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