Islamic republic fan boys how does it feel to watch Morocco?

[kastro]

If you ever travel in Egypt and Morocco, you'll see how quickly your Muslim brothers will try every which way to rob you of your hard-earned cash...

Personal discrimination based on religious belief is ridiculous.

Also We beat Morocco and tied Portugal in 2018...that was our best performance. 2026 was overall a poor showing.

It's not limited to just Muslims as Christian Egyptians participate in scamming just as much. Shitty people exist in every faith.

[Super Shojaei]

Thanks for your reply. You sre right, Africans are more encouraged to go for sports and we are for business or academic . However you cant dent thay we have a huge diaspora ive heard its about 10 mil outside iran and the only player we have to show is dejagah and look at what an impact he made to our team when he arrived. His class was above every one else
Morocco whole starting 11 was diaspora players thats not a joke ! Im sure we could get a few more because remember many players would chose their new country over iran.

8 years ago all we needed was a proper coach and we could beat morocco

Well looking at our dispora in the past dejagah aside non of them were overly impressive

Steven Beitashour- Said in a podcast interview our players had bad nutrition habits during the 2014 world cup . Maybe thats why CQ just wanted disporas to create at atmosphere of more discipline - Career wise he won an mls title but im not sure bar 1 assist v Thailand that he was anything that special. I also felt he had been let down by the IFF who maybe didn't want to pay for his travel from the US to Iran for asian cup qualification games after the world cup . For Iranian Americans playing for Iran is more logistically challenging that for the European Iranian dispora who only have to fly 6 hours compared to american dispora that need to play 10-15 . So in terms of recovery and training more discipline and planning is needed for Iranian Americans and its more of a sacrifice.

Daniel Davari- His career was literally on the up and collapsed after he made his first team melli start - made a horrible error v Mali then had two games v thailand where the opposition didn't even manage a shot on goal then after conceding a goal v Angola he was done. I dont think he made 1 memorable save during his 4 games for team melli I've never seen a faster career collapse by any of our disporas than him a pretty big shame all i can say.

Omid Nazari - Seemed to show promise at youth level for sweden and didn't do much beyond that - bar 1 goal v Yemen he didnt do much for team melli either was called up at a time when we had a razor thin - spend his season between east asian clubs in indoenesia and the Phillipines

Aria Jasur- i mean he showed the most promise out of these 4 was even called up and unused by japan but failed in La Liga and reports in Iran suggested her japanese mother didn't want him to have iranian citizenship anyhow. Again seemed to peak around 2014 where he won j league player of the month - went to spain and only played 4 matches in la liga - seemed a bit physically thin so im not sure how he would've coped at a world cup against the likes of nigeria for example or against the more physical arab teams in asia i think he would've struggled in a similar sort of way Ghaedi did . Still he played for top j-league clubs throughout his career so he clearly had some ability and would have brought some Japanese discipline to our dressing room which wouldve been welcome mot likely why CQ wanted him . He kept up a standard and didn't collapse into the abyss akin to nazari or davari

Dennis Eckert - The first quarter national on the list of our disporas ever with quarter nationals i guess the challenge of integration is much more challenging as they wont speak the language and would probably have less influence of the culture compared to the others on this list but by the looks of instagram he seems to have enjoyed his time with the team and enjoyed his new team mates . He wasn't left in the dust by his team mates but the slow bid to get his passport made it really tough to integrate him into the squad . I think if CQ manages this team he definitely gets called up for the 2023 Asian cup and here i think CQ would've used him against New Zealand and Egypt . a big waste - career wise he was good at Union something like 9 goals in 10 games then had a bad injury and was in form prior to the world cup then got injured again so could be a similar situation with Sayyadmanesh and Gholizadeh - good players who just can't keep fit. Maybe if Nekounam was coach it would be good for him see as Nekou spend a long time in spain and Eckert is half spanish - that could help foster some sort of bond better than the one with GN or maybe im just talking out of ass. Overall maybe we should have gone for him earlier but then it didn't seem like he really wanted at Celta as he said in the interview he ignored iranian agent approaches. He did good at Union and probably deserved a call to the Asian Cup


Saman Ghoddos- Won the freekick v Morocco a game changer - and just a great player for Asian level. Nothing to add just a real talent

Overall when you look at this list of dispora it's not enough to challenge for asian cups or progress deeply in world cups we've managed 2 good players in Ashkan and Saman who have made a real difference in the team- the rest could have made some difference off the pitch in terms of professionalism - i know Beitashour complained in a podcast that the nutrition of team melli was awful so there is definitely some ill discipline reported there maybe CQ wanted to call in european/american / japanese dispora to give that extra edge of professionalism that would carry the team rather than the players themselves being world beaters




Maybe list for future dispora

Kahveh Zahiroleslam- 2 goals in the polish league this season and suffered bad injuries during the last oen - it's hard to see where we go from here

David Stuckler - Doing well in Serie C- if he has a good season in Serie B then he should be in for consideration im not sure anyone in our federation knows of him yet

Ellias Bishesari- has been to iran 6 times and has an iranian passport - but romania are sniffing around for him (they tried to call him up when he was 15) plus hes already in sweden's youth team- i see this as a realistic option as someone who would actually come join us even with everything associated with Iran. But of course hes still extremely young so who knows how his career will develop its very early to judge. This seems like the highest probability of coming through out of all the players on this list but we are fighting with 2 other nations with him

aiden hezarkhani - definitely the most inform of our disporas and the one who would make the most difference but with our situation now i dont think any iranian american is switching to us in this state- i'd be absolutely shocked if he chose team melli over USA. Seems to be in strong contention for the US national team- even if we didn't have a corrupt as fuck government i still think he wouldn't come. Out of those on the list this is the highest probability of a "no" probably around 96 percent the only situation i see him switching to us is if his form drops suddenly and hes in out of contention completely but then if that's the case im not sure how much use he would be to us.

Arman Nahany- I mean with him and Elias not sure if these guys will make it pro - too early to judge - if he's getting called up by
Holland its a sign theres some talent there but alot of youth internationals even for big nations don't make it pro heck even eckert was a german youth international. So anything can happen with him
Elias Vali Fard- Same situation - seems to follow team melli on instagram and shared iran's group draw on his story - still really young and still there's no way of knowing if hes going to make it in the big time yett.

When you compare this list to what Morroco have

In la liga they got 5
2 in bundasliga
some 30-50 in ligue 1-2
20 in belgium
11 in erdivise

this is conservatively around 60 disporas in the top 5 leagues of europe - thats alot they are pushing out Dejagah's on a yearly basis
algeria have around 35 in these leagues too eligible

nigeria have 25 plus another 10 in the premier league

these african nations have a huge advantage and their dispora players play more consistently - ours have been inconsistent at best (eckert) or are too young to make an impact/ or our federation doesnt try hard enough or due to politics aren't even in consideration

but even if they did try im not sure they would make a huge difference at this moment - maybe Eckert could've scored v New Zealand or Egypt im not sure the others would've been a huge upgrade on what we have right now

but look at the other disporas in Asia

1.6 million japanese in america
1 million japanese in brazil
90k in europe

all they got out of that in total was 2 mixed raced goalies - japanese are too busy working to commit to football

China 8.2 million in total in US and Europe 2 disporas one from Brentford that moved to china when he was young
another in the Norwegian league

south korea 650k in europe and 2 million in USA - only 2 Disporas in total - again Koreans are more likely to go into medicine, engineering , tech etc. they don't have time to kick a ball around


overall asian disporas just don't produce anyway near the amount the african disporas do and i'd argue they will never be as productive , they never have been and the gap is widening they get players from Bayern Munich, Real Madrid , Paris SG - that's a huge advantage that not even the j league can keep up with

incidentally Morocco's goalscorer v netherlands Diop had one Morrocan grandparent similar to Eckert - even the quarter nationals they pickup have premier league experience

interestingly looking at ethnic minorities in China- Uyghur Muslims are just 0.6 percent of the population in China but make up 15-20 percent of the youth team players and 8 percent of the Main team of China .Why? because they are born in poverty they got no chance in making it so they go all in in football and physically central asians are on average stronger than han Chinese. Look at China's starting striker Behram Abduweli - he was earning a dollar a day while he was training for football as a kid selling corn on the streets of xinjiang - his brother couldn't afford the 100 dollars to take a train to his trial so his family went all in on him plus his parents died as a kid - these Uyghurs face plight like no other man but goes to show that certain ethnic minorities have no choice but to go all in whilst other ethnicities tend to prioritise sports

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202402/1307943.shtml

https://english.news.cn/20240612/9c12f889ad1b42a290e8d2751c9d1ff1/c.html

[persian-eagle-13]

The solution is simple: defund IPL and make it into a farm league, so this forces players to go abroad. IPL is the Achilles heel of our football. It is a massive expenditure with ZERO results.

Bekhor bekhor to the fullest extent with ZERO results out of it.

If IPL were a major corporation, it would have already folded.

[Afat11]

The solution is simple: defund IPL and make it into a farm league, so this forces players to go abroad. IPL is the Achilles heel of our football. It is a massive expenditure with ZERO results.

Bekhor bekhor to the fullest extent with ZERO results out of it.

If IPL were a major corporation, it would have already folded.

If Iran were a normal nation, Ghalenoei would've never seen the TM bench in the 2020's. He accomplished the same as Korea's coach (1 place better, congrats), and Korea's coach is on 24 security to not be hurt by fans, but Ghalenoei still has a job. Him complaining from game 1 that the US is so mean to me worked I guess. We should be throwing this loser who only kept a clean sheet in 5 or 6 games (a miracle against this horrible Belgium team currently losing to Senegal lmao).

The only way this team would ever improve is #1 IR fall and every IRGC kotleted (wishful thinking), but otherwise, they would instantly fire General for his failure to even make the final 32, and hire someone with a tactical sense who is committed to a 4 year vision to revolutionize this old team. Renard should be available (he had no time with Tunisia to get them ready), but someone like him or Felix Sanchez. Tell them that the average age in Asian Cup should be 25 or under for the starting lineup, force them to look abroad to call up some of these future diaspora stars. Maybe half will suck and be wasted callups, but if half are decent and blend with youthful Iranians, we could have a team for the next world cup to actually perform. This is all in a normal country, we all know GN will be coach and playing Jahanbakhsh and the golden girls to a QF exit, maybe semi finals if he's lucky again. Then IFF will be caught flat footed trying to salvage something for 2030 WC where the current lineup will all be 40. No forward thinking, no planning. All these neanderthal monkeys running IFF are an extension of the IRGC's total incompetence to run a country.

Maybe if they start sending IFF money to the Palestinian and Lebanese team it will make TM better in the future, I don't know. Will be as useful as any "plans" these dumbasses can come up with.

[Super Shojaei]

The other fact is that IFF does not actively care about diaspora of Iranian talents in European at all , there are players , who are still young and Iranian who could help us in the future ,,,, but the IFF will wait until they are like 30 years of age like denis then try to bring them to team Melli,,,,,, we need to identify and test them when they are still young 16 to 20 ,,, and incorporate them in the national team sets up to see if they are even good enough ….

I have seen how the Moroccans work, they find talents when they are 16 17, 18 and 19 and they have these players play for their under 17 u-19 and under 20s and they nurture them through the process of developing ….

they evaluate every single player, they have in Europe, where they play how much they play what level they play how much they progressed , they know exactly who is performing who is not and from those players, they have their national association test them out in Friendly games and competitions.

The Moroccan football federation has so many scouts all over , they do all the busy work yes most of their players are developing in Europe , but they identify and develop incorporating them into the national team sets up , still requires a lot of planing and logistical work…

IFF doesn’t even give a rats ass about the players inside of Iran let alone diaspora players …..

you think there aren’t other dejegahs or gucci out there , there are !! But someone has to scout identity and develop them ..

I think if you look at most the iranian dispora its clear we are not first choice for any of them

Steven Betiashour said he was gutted he was injured whilst on international duty with the usa

Daniel Davari rejected the intial call up

Dennis Eckert said he ignored iranian agents during his time at Celta said he didnt wanna pick a national team translation he was holding out for spain and germany

Dejagah again only picked us because he fell out of contention with germany

We are literally second choice for everyone

Morrocan dispora seem to priortise morrocco more whereas we are simply seen as a backup

[PEJ]

I think if you look at most the iranian dispora its clear we are not first choice for any of them

Steven Betiashour said he was gutted he was injured whilst on international duty with the usa

Daniel Davari rejected the intial call up

Dennis Eckert said he ignored iranian agents during his time at Celta said he didnt wanna pick a national team translation he was holding out for spain and germany

Dejagah again only picked us because he fell out of contention with germany

We are literally second choice for everyone

Morrocan dispora seem to priortise morrocco more whereas we are simply seen as a backup

The difference is culture. Iranians always assimilate to their new home and society. Arabs/Moroccans, not so much.

[koorosh]

The difference is culture. Iranians always assimilate to their new home and society. Arabs/Moroccans, not so much.

Or lack of culture.

Iranians are desperate to lose ours whereas Arabs and Turks cling to theirs generation after generation.

I have Iranian friends who after just 5 years of living in the West use as many English words as Persian when speaking the latter.

What proportion of second generation Iranians can speak Persian?

We are the perfect immigrants.

[persiangodfather]

Or lack of culture.

Iranians are desperate to lose ours whereas Arabs and Turks cling to theirs generation after generation.

I have Iranian friends who after just 5 years of living in the West use as many English words as Persian when speaking the latter.

What proportion of second generation Iranians can speak Persian?

We are the perfect immigrants.

we lost our culture already , look its called the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC,, we lost but I hope we take it back

[Camran khan]

Anyone seen that POS Afazeli on TV with Khiabani and Azizi spewing so much BS and bragging about how successfull they were in the world cup? Beyond embarrassing..

[Artaxerxes]

For once i agree with Azizi.

Houman enghadr chert nago, you and your IRGC nookars could not even beat New Zealand.

You got handed the easiest group in the world cup in the new format where they 8 best 3rd place teams also advance and still ridin be khodeton, ALL the best 3rd best teams besides only Senegal won atlest ONE game.


And then you compare us to Argentina 😅, If you read this, jamesh kon.

[persianballer]

Controversial, but I agree with Hooman, this was one of our better WCs, and it's the first time I was positively surprised. We screwed up against NZ, but gave a solid performance against Belgium and Egypt. Still pretty shitty with no attack, which is standard TM performance, but I don't see how it was worse than previous WCs of parking the bus.

[koorosh]

Controversial, but I agree with Hooman, this was one of our better WCs, and it's the first time I was positively surprised. We screwed up against NZ, but gave a solid performance against Belgium and Egypt. Still pretty shitty with no attack, which is standard TM performance, but I don't see how it was worse than previous WCs of parking the bus.

Let's put it this way...

In 2018 we came within inches of throwing Portugal with peak Ronaldo out of the world Cup. But we tied them.

In 2026, we came within inches of throwing Egypt out of the world Cup...but we tied them.

In 2018...4 points....very tough group.
In 2026...3 points....very easy group.

How do we do?
1978 1 point ,...14th
1998 3 points....20th
2006 1 point 25th
2014 1 point, 28th
2018 4 points 18th
2022 3 points 26th
2026 3 points ...33rd.

Could argue we did worse than any other WC! Could argue we were average.
Can't argue we were good!