Islamic republic fan boys how does it feel to watch Morocco?

[persiangodfather]

8 years ago we beat them
they now are a legitimate team who is a dark horse and can reach the semi finals and dare i say it, even win the world cup

Their squad is mostly made up of Moroccan diaspora players

you fanboys of the irgc team its your stupidity why iran will never prosper. We didnt bring Azmoun and seyedmanesh but Morocca is searching the earth for their diaspora and our diaspora is fighting the free Palestine and irgc supporters but Moroccan diaspora gets to play for the national team

Also your Muslim brothers spit on us and let Austria score on purpose// there isnt even any benefit from being an islamic shit hole the Arabs still hate us

[a_m]

I didn’t want to post this but I mean I tell you right now , no matter how much money IRI spends on Arabs or Arab countries they will never ever like Iran or Iranians ,,,,, we are just not important to them …

case in point in Gaza they watching the World Cup and look who they were cheering for …

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaJzB71NKgE/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

I don’t want to saying anything about it cause they are very improvised and all their lives and homes have been destroyed and it a very hard situation for them ,,,, but most of them blame IRI for the situation they have created for them …

[Super Shojaei]

I’m atheist and not a regime supporter but this post doesn’t make any sense




Morocco have a huge dispora across Europe and have a far high statistical probability of entering professional sports than Iranians do. That’s that- these African nations have European academies producing all their talent for them. That’s a big advantage and unfair to compare to any Asian dispora




5.4 million Chinese American dispora yet 0 Chinese American footballers




2.5 million Chinese in Europe and only one mixed raced Norwegian player they have to show for it just 1 . Who played in the first division of Norway .




You have 2 million Korean Americans yet no Korean American has gone professional in football




650k Koreans in Europe and only 2 disporas made it pro Jens Castrop and Marvin Park the latter is in second division of Spain .




You have 900k Iranians in America yet only 1 Steve Beitashour has made it really pro for a pro longed period of time we could add kaveh zahirosislam to that list but he’s only had two seasons and hasn’t committed to team mellli Aiden Hezarkhani could also be but I think it’s unlikely he commits .




You have 400k Moroccans and you could name quite a chunk of Dutch Moroccan footballers




players

• Hakim Ziyech
• Noussair Mazraoui
• Sofyan Amrabat
• Nordin Amrabat
• Anass Salah-Eddine
• Ismael Saibari
• Bilal El Khannouss
• Mohamed Ihattaren
• Mohamed El Hankouri
• Zakaria Aboukhlal
• Marouan Azarkan
• Chemsdine Talbi

there are many more beyond that list but their dispora is much smaller than koreas in Europe and irans in USA but produce way more talents




Even more so in France , Germany and Spain but you get my point




Just looking at France alone According to recent reports, Morocco’s current squad includes at least six France-born players and there 50 players in ligue 1 that have some morrocan ancestry for 1.1 million to 2 million Moroccans in France overall far more productive from the dispora in those nations.




African dispora is far more likely to commit to pro sports because they don’t have much other choice and are less likely to commit as seriously to education as Asian dispora are this makes a massive difference and isn’t something that any Asian government or FA should be blamed for. The sociology analysis of disporas between Asians and Africans is just different . Looking at the data it’s clear. Comparison between “we should do better than Cape Verde and dr Congo” don’t make sense when these nations are propped up by European academies producing their talents and by disporas that are much more committed to pro sports than our own . I don’t think this question really looks into the statistical data enough between Asians and Africans .

[persianballer]

I was supporting Iran, but now they're out I'm supporting Morocco, they're awesome!!

Regarding Algeria, of course I'm sad they drew on purpose, and it screwed iran, but it's nothing personal, it's football. I will also support them as Muslim country with a great history.Same sentiment for Egypt.


Of course I wish our football federation invited everyone regardless of politics, but they don't unfortunately.

From the current team, I'm sad but very proud of them, in my opinion this was the best world cup performance from Iran since 1998. Even with all the external factors

[persiangodfather]

I was supporting Iran, but now they're out I'm supporting Morocco, they're awesome!!

Regarding Algeria, of course I'm sad they drew on purpose, and it screwed iran, but it's nothing personal, it's football. I will also support them as Muslim country with a great history.Same sentiment for Egypt.


Of course I wish our football federation invited everyone regardless of politics, but they don't unfortunately.

From the current team, I'm sad but very proud of them, in my opinion this was the best world cup performance from Iran since 1998. Even with all the external factors

All due respect and I dont mean to insult you or argue with you, but your mentality is part of the problem.

You are Persian, and supporting Arabs who dont give a dam about you and even most of them are sunni they want us to have a fanatic shia government, just because they enable our people's suffering

the example i give that 8 years ago we beat Morocco now they can win the world cup and we cant beat new zealand

We need to get this supporting for other muslims / Arabs/ free Palestine out only because they dont give a dam about Iranians. If I see any benefit for being on that side I wouldn't even open this thread !

[persiangodfather]

I’m atheist and not a regime supporter but this post doesn’t make any sense




Morocco have a huge dispora across Europe and have a far high statistical probability of entering professional sports than Iranians do. That’s that- these African nations have European academies producing all their talent for them. That’s a big advantage and unfair to compare to any Asian dispora




5.4 million Chinese American dispora yet 0 Chinese American footballers




2.5 million Chinese in Europe and only one mixed raced Norwegian player they have to show for it just 1 . Who played in the first division of Norway .




You have 2 million Korean Americans yet no Korean American has gone professional in football




650k Koreans in Europe and only 2 disporas made it pro Jens Castrop and Marvin Park the latter is in second division of Spain .




You have 900k Iranians in America yet only 1 Steve Beitashour has made it really pro for a pro longed period of time we could add kaveh zahirosislam to that list but he’s only had two seasons and hasn’t committed to team mellli Aiden Hezarkhani could also be but I think it’s unlikely he commits .




You have 400k Moroccans and you could name quite a chunk of Dutch Moroccan footballers




players

• Hakim Ziyech
• Noussair Mazraoui
• Sofyan Amrabat
• Nordin Amrabat
• Anass Salah-Eddine
• Ismael Saibari
• Bilal El Khannouss
• Mohamed Ihattaren
• Mohamed El Hankouri
• Zakaria Aboukhlal
• Marouan Azarkan
• Chemsdine Talbi

there are many more beyond that list but their dispora is much smaller than koreas in Europe and irans in USA but produce way more talents




Even more so in France , Germany and Spain but you get my point




Just looking at France alone According to recent reports, Morocco’s current squad includes at least six France-born players and there 50 players in ligue 1 that have some morrocan ancestry for 1.1 million to 2 million Moroccans in France overall far more productive from the dispora in those nations.




African dispora is far more likely to commit to pro sports because they don’t have much other choice and are less likely to commit as seriously to education as Asian dispora are this makes a massive difference and isn’t something that any Asian government or FA should be blamed for. The sociology analysis of disporas between Asians and Africans is just different . Looking at the data it’s clear. Comparison between “we should do better than Cape Verde and dr Congo” don’t make sense when these nations are propped up by European academies producing their talents and by disporas that are much more committed to pro sports than our own . I don’t think this question really looks into the statistical data enough between Asians and Africans .

Thanks for your reply. You sre right, Africans are more encouraged to go for sports and we are for business or academic . However you cant dent thay we have a huge diaspora ive heard its about 10 mil outside iran and the only player we have to show is dejagah and look at what an impact he made to our team when he arrived. His class was above every one else
Morocco whole starting 11 was diaspora players thats not a joke ! Im sure we could get a few more because remember many players would chose their new country over iran.

8 years ago all we needed was a proper coach and we could beat morocco

[persianballer]

All due respect and I dont mean to insult you or argue with you, but your mentality is part of the problem.

You are Persian, and supporting Arabs who dont give a dam about you and even most of them are sunni they want us to have a fanatic shia government, just because they enable our people's suffering

the example i give that 8 years ago we beat Morocco now they can win the world cup and we cant beat new zealand

We need to get this supporting for other muslims / Arabs/ free Palestine out only because they dont give a dam about Iranians. If I see any benefit for being on that side I wouldn't even open this thread !

No disrespect taken. I was born and raised in the UK with people from all around the world. I connect very well with Muslim cultures and love them.

You have good and bad people from all cultures. I just see their culture close to mine and their people similar.

[a_m]

I’m atheist and not a regime supporter but this post doesn’t make any sense




Morocco have a huge dispora across Europe and have a far high statistical probability of entering professional sports than Iranians do. That’s that- these African nations have European academies producing all their talent for them. That’s a big advantage and unfair to compare to any Asian dispora




5.4 million Chinese American dispora yet 0 Chinese American footballers




2.5 million Chinese in Europe and only one mixed raced Norwegian player they have to show for it just 1 . Who played in the first division of Norway .




You have 2 million Korean Americans yet no Korean American has gone professional in football




650k Koreans in Europe and only 2 disporas made it pro Jens Castrop and Marvin Park the latter is in second division of Spain .




You have 900k Iranians in America yet only 1 Steve Beitashour has made it really pro for a pro longed period of time we could add kaveh zahirosislam to that list but he’s only had two seasons and hasn’t committed to team mellli Aiden Hezarkhani could also be but I think it’s unlikely he commits .




You have 400k Moroccans and you could name quite a chunk of Dutch Moroccan footballers




players

• Hakim Ziyech
• Noussair Mazraoui
• Sofyan Amrabat
• Nordin Amrabat
• Anass Salah-Eddine
• Ismael Saibari
• Bilal El Khannouss
• Mohamed Ihattaren
• Mohamed El Hankouri
• Zakaria Aboukhlal
• Marouan Azarkan
• Chemsdine Talbi

there are many more beyond that list but their dispora is much smaller than koreas in Europe and irans in USA but produce way more talents




Even more so in France , Germany and Spain but you get my point




Just looking at France alone According to recent reports, Morocco’s current squad includes at least six France-born players and there 50 players in ligue 1 that have some morrocan ancestry for 1.1 million to 2 million Moroccans in France overall far more productive from the dispora in those nations.




African dispora is far more likely to commit to pro sports because they don’t have much other choice and are less likely to commit as seriously to education as Asian dispora are this makes a massive difference and isn’t something that any Asian government or FA should be blamed for. The sociology analysis of disporas between Asians and Africans is just different . Looking at the data it’s clear. Comparison between “we should do better than Cape Verde and dr Congo” don’t make sense when these nations are propped up by European academies producing their talents and by disporas that are much more committed to pro sports than our own . I don’t think this question really looks into the statistical data enough between Asians and Africans .

Look bro rich Iranian and Chinese and a Korea mostly go the USA and Europe most of the time

for Moroccans who you think all the construction workers in Spain Portugal and in Holland and France are????

you never see a single Iranian go to America or Europe to be a construction worker do you ?

Iranians in Europe or American are here for a PhD or to get life time welfare …..
very few in between…

[koorosh]

I was supporting Iran, but now they're out I'm supporting Morocco, they're awesome!!

Regarding Algeria, of course I'm sad they drew on purpose, and it screwed iran, but it's nothing personal, it's football. I will also support them as Muslim country with a great history.Same sentiment for Egypt.


Of course I wish our football federation invited everyone regardless of politics, but they don't unfortunately.

From the current team, I'm sad but very proud of them, in my opinion this was the best world cup performance from Iran since 1998. Even with all the external factors

If you ever travel in Egypt and Morocco, you'll see how quickly your Muslim brothers will try every which way to rob you of your hard-earned cash...

Personal discrimination based on religious belief is ridiculous.

Also We beat Morocco and tied Portugal in 2018...that was our best performance. 2026 was overall a poor showing.

[koorosh]

Look bro rich Iranian and Chinese and a Korea mostly go the USA and Europe most of the time

for Moroccans who you think all the construction workers in Spain Portugal and in Holland and France are????

you never see a single Iranian go to America or Europe to be a construction worker do you ?

Iranians in Europe or American are here for a PhD or to get life time welfare …..
very few in between…

That's what he said...just in a longer post!

[Saam]

Thanks for your reply. You sre right, Africans are more encouraged to go for sports and we are for business or academic . However you cant dent thay we have a huge diaspora ive heard its about 10 mil outside iran and the only player we have to show is dejagah and look at what an impact he made to our team when he arrived. His class was above every one else
Morocco whole starting 11 was diaspora players thats not a joke ! Im sure we could get a few more because remember many players would chose their new country over iran.

8 years ago all we needed was a proper coach and we could beat morocco

Bro with all due respect, and I'm the biggest CQ fan and hate Ghalenoei with a passion - put our 2018 team with CQ up against this Morocco squad and they would beat us 3-0. They're way better than the Morocco team of 8 years ago. Even that Morocco team of 8 years ago was a really tough matchup for us.

This isn't a "they have improved and we haven't" scenario as much as they have way, way better talent than us. Doesn't matter who was our coach this time around, they'd beat us 9 times out of 10, and the 1 time would be a tie with us parking the bus.

[persiangodfather]

Bro with all due respect, and I'm the biggest CQ fan and hate Ghalenoei with a passion - put our 2018 team with CQ up against this Morocco squad and they would beat us 3-0. They're way better than the Morocco team of 8 years ago. Even that Morocco team of 8 years ago was a really tough matchup for us.

This isn't a "they have improved and we haven't" scenario as much as they have way, way better talent than us. Doesn't matter who was our coach this time around, they'd beat us 9 times out of 10, and the 1 time would be a tie with us parking the bus.

yes but the point is a normal country would improve and we arent , so whats the point in supporting the islamic republic team at all even? Ok im going to blindly support Iran in Ice Hockey and hope we have a good olympic tournament . For what? just for the sake of it? because nothing good will ever come from Iranian Ice Hockey team as nothing will come for the IRGC soccer team

[roozan]

i dont support a single arab country because its simple they dont support us. We can beat morocco on any given day, they're on a run that we could;ve easily been on if we were not at war, had no sanctions etc.

[a_m]

The other fact is that IFF does not actively care about diaspora of Iranian talents in European at all , there are players , who are still young and Iranian who could help us in the future ,,,, but the IFF will wait until they are like 30 years of age like denis then try to bring them to team Melli,,,,,, we need to identify and test them when they are still young 16 to 20 ,,, and incorporate them in the national team sets up to see if they are even good enough ….

I have seen how the Moroccans work, they find talents when they are 16 17, 18 and 19 and they have these players play for their under 17 u-19 and under 20s and they nurture them through the process of developing ….

they evaluate every single player, they have in Europe, where they play how much they play what level they play how much they progressed , they know exactly who is performing who is not and from those players, they have their national association test them out in Friendly games and competitions.

The Moroccan football federation has so many scouts all over , they do all the busy work yes most of their players are developing in Europe , but they identify and develop incorporating them into the national team sets up , still requires a lot of planing and logistical work…

IFF doesn’t even give a rats ass about the players inside of Iran let alone diaspora players …..

you think there aren’t other dejegahs or gucci out there , there are !! But someone has to scout identity and develop them ..

[perspolis#1]

8 years ago we beat them
they now are a legitimate team who is a dark horse and can reach the semi finals and dare i say it, even win the world cup

Their squad is mostly made up of Moroccan diaspora players

you fanboys of the irgc team its your stupidity why iran will never prosper. We didnt bring Azmoun and seyedmanesh but Morocca is searching the earth for their diaspora and our diaspora is fighting the free Palestine and irgc supporters but Moroccan diaspora gets to play for the national team

Also your Muslim brothers spit on us and let Austria score on purpose// there isnt even any benefit from being an islamic shit hole the Arabs still hate us

Would like you to clarify who you are specifically calling an "Islamic Republic fanboy". Rooting for Michael Jordan in the 1990s didnt mean you liked Bill Clinton. Even less dignifying answering a question when it opens with an insult.

Morocco has a lot of diaspora players because most of their refugees in Europe have no other opportunities and have to get through in sports the way the most likely way people get out of the hood here in the US is through sports also.

Iranians abroad are usually either business owners, students/academics, or in some established field. Many of them already have learned English(or whatever European language) before stepping into the West and can advance through opportunities at 100x the pace as a lower economic class migrant/refugee.

That's the reason. Now if you want to make a cultural shift among Iranians abroad that is one argument especially since being a physician or lawyer are not as good of a job balance as it used to be thirty years ago with the horrible way insurances operate in the US. Maybe to push mamani to be ok with little Arya becoming a football star is the step we need to make. That's only half the battle if IFF doesn't recruit the kid and far more efficient federations like the US or Morocco take them first.

I'm not even going to touch your last point. One day, if not you and me, but our kids will walk past each other in an Iran where everyone can coexist and they will be doing great. I believe that.