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    Originally posted by vatanparast View Post

    Respectfully, you are obviously way too passionate about Israel and believe it can do any wrong. You are entitled to your opinion but doesn't make it factual.
    NY times had an article about the rape allegations against Israel. NY times is owned by Ochs-Sulzberger family, who are of Jewish descent
    Israeli soldier destroying a Jesus statue was probably an arab that stole an Israeli uniform to make Israel look bad.
    CNN is owned by warner brothers whose CEO is Jewish David Zaslav. There is an article about The Global Sumud Flotilla activists were beaten, forced to kneel and completely mistreated.

    about 1200 victims from the horrible tragic October 7th massacre does not justify years of retaliation leading to civilian deaths that far exceed 1200 by at least 50 fold if not more.
    Since you asked for sources, I named a few. They are not difficult to find. a simple google search will yield many articles talking about the points I made in bold.
    The difference is I don't equate the criminal actions of Israeli government and soldiers of today to anyone who is an Israeli citizen or of Jewish heritage.
    I hope you also will realize that those of Shia Muslim faith are not necessarily tied to or even like the terrorist regime. just like majority of the team melli players aren't either.
    The bisavad coach probably is and mehdi torabi is pro regime.
    I am an Iranian first then an American then a Shia Muslim in that order.

    You can choose to ignore the reality behind Israeli government of today and call anyone accusing Israel of wrongdoing antisemitic, but you can't force others to think like you.

    Enough politics.
    You dont get to say "enough politics" to me and everyone else on this forum. You are just a hand of the regime because you spend more time making lies up about jewish people owning everything than the regime. I already made my point a long time ago but you want to keep going about how evil the IDF is.

    I use Israel to find the pro regime supporters here because all I have to do is say one thing in support of them and 10 people will quote me calling me a zionist. Its that simple. This forum needs to be safe for us and with you and other posters subtlety defending the regime

    If you care about the people of Iran why would you criticize the motives of the people killing our enemies? Unless you work for that enemy.

    You are equating jewish people with the actions of the government. You just gave me a list of all the people who own media outlets that are jewish, whom I didnt even know about. And then you started talking about the flotillas. Oh so Gaza gets flotilla service but not our people who definitely need it more. The IDF didnt even kill those people they scared the shit out of them and sent them back. Thanks for misinforming us btw and thank you for letting us know where you stand my shia muslim friend.

    "I'm here to clean the carpets. Most of the world is carpeted. And, one day, we will do the cleaning."

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      Originally posted by Messy View Post

      You dont get to say "enough politics" to me and everyone else on this forum. You are just a hand of the regime because you spend more time making lies up about jewish people owning everything than the regime. I already made my point a long time ago but you want to keep going about how evil the IDF is.

      I use Israel to find the pro regime supporters here because all I have to do is say one thing in support of them and 10 people will quote me calling me a zionist. Its that simple. This forum needs to be safe for us and with you and other posters subtlety defending the regime

      If you care about the people of Iran why would you criticize the motives of the people killing our enemies? Unless you work for that enemy.

      You are equating jewish people with the actions of the government. You just gave me a list of all the people who own media outlets that are jewish, whom I didnt even know about. And then you started talking about the flotillas. Oh so Gaza gets flotilla service but not our people who definitely need it more. The IDF didnt even kill those people they scared the shit out of them and sent them back. Thanks for misinforming us btw and thank you for letting us know where you stand my shia muslim friend.
      I got news for you, the government of Israel and the IR are both incredibly evil. Criticizing Israel has nothing to do with hating the IR. Not mutually exclusive

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        Originally posted by alieti View Post

        I got news for you, the government of Israel and the IR are both incredibly evil. Criticizing Israel has nothing to do with hating the IR. Not mutually exclusive
        I have news for you... every "crime" israel committed is because of IR so blaming Israel for all those crimes is supporting the regime. Its so simple. All of those civilian deaths (which are minimal compared to other civilian:combat ratios) are blood on the islamic republic's hands

        This tiny little sliver of land in the levant cant be taken down by any radical islamists that the regime funds. Does that make you upset? Probably. You had to come and post about it here. You had to come here and spread anti semitic hate and defend your buddies Hamas and Hezbollah.
        "I'm here to clean the carpets. Most of the world is carpeted. And, one day, we will do the cleaning."

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          Originally posted by Messy View Post

          I have news for you... every "crime" israel committed is because of IR so blaming Israel for all those crimes is supporting the regime. Its so simple. All of those civilian deaths (which are minimal compared to other civilian:combat ratios) are blood on the islamic republic's hands

          This tiny little sliver of land in the levant cant be taken down by any radical islamists that the regime funds. Does that make you upset? Probably. You had to come and post about it here. You had to come here and spread anti semitic hate and defend your buddies Hamas and Hezbollah.
          Holy crap. Sorry I engaged in conversation with you. First ever post with you and I got called antisemitic and buddies with hamas because I said both countries have done bad things lol. Good luck to you brother. I wish you the best

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            Originally posted by Messy View Post

            I have news for you... every "crime" israel committed is because of IR so blaming Israel for all those crimes is supporting the regime. Its so simple. All of those civilian deaths (which are minimal compared to other civilian:combat ratios) are blood on the islamic republic's hands

            This tiny little sliver of land in the levant cant be taken down by any radical islamists that the regime funds. Does that make you upset? Probably. You had to come and post about it here. You had to come here and spread anti semitic hate and defend your buddies Hamas and Hezbollah.
            Wow, just wow! I promised myself not to discuss more politics here, but I cannot stay quiet after reading your latest post.

            According to you, anyone who says anything against the government of Israel is an anti-semite and a lover of Hamas/Hezbollah and IR? Did Alieti say anything offensive to you? Have you met him?

            You are entitled to your opinion, but don't attack others just because they don't feel the same. I have absolutely nothing against Jews, but I don't like the Israeli government. Are you gonna label me as a Basiji lover now?

            In fact, the majority of Americans today hold negative views of the Israeli goverment. Does that make them all antisemetic?

            "Libtard"? Very mature.

            There is a reason why the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanayhu. Should we not trust them? Should we only trust media and sources that you specifically follow? I guess BBC, CNN and most other international news cooperations are just spreading fake news and lies about any wrongdoing by the Netanayhu and his crew.

            It's astonishing that so many people think that everything is black or white. You can be against IR, Trump and Netanayhu at the same time. Just because we have a common enemy (IR), it doesn't mean that we have to pretend that the other parties (US/Israel) are angels.

            The political discussion has been going on for months now. If we cannot respect each other, then I suggest that anyone who wants to write about football sticks to that from now on. Don't respond to political comments, whether you agree or not.

            Anyone who wants to discuss politics should of course be allowed to, but don't comment on football related posts unless it's respectful.

            We gain nothing by attacking each other. We won't change each others opinions, so the least we can do is to be civil.





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              Originally posted by Ghormesabzi View Post

              Wow, just wow! I promised myself not to discuss more politics here, but I cannot stay quiet after reading your latest post.

              According to you, anyone who says anything against the government of Israel is an anti-semite and a lover of Hamas/Hezbollah and IR? Did Alieti say anything offensive to you? Have you met him?

              You are entitled to your opinion, but don't attack others just because they don't feel the same. I have absolutely nothing against Jews, but I don't like the Israeli government. Are you gonna label me as a Basiji lover now?

              In fact, the majority of Americans today hold negative views of the Israeli goverment. Does that make them all antisemetic?

              "Libtard"? Very mature.

              There is a reason why the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanayhu. Should we not trust them? Should we only trust media and sources that you specifically follow? I guess BBC, CNN and most other international news cooperations are just spreading fake news and lies about any wrongdoing by the Netanayhu and his crew.

              It's astonishing that so many people think that everything is black or white. You can be against IR, Trump and Netanayhu at the same time. Just because we have a common enemy (IR), it doesn't mean that we have to pretend that the other parties (US/Israel) are angels.

              The political discussion has been going on for months now. If we cannot respect each other, then I suggest that anyone who wants to write about football sticks to that from now on. Don't respond to political comments, whether you agree or not.

              Anyone who wants to discuss politics should of course be allowed to, but don't comment on football related posts unless it's respectful.

              We gain nothing by attacking each other. We won't change each others opinions, so the least we can do is to be civil.




              It’s not worth your time my friend. Life is too short

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                Originally posted by Ghormesabzi View Post

                Wow, just wow! I promised myself not to discuss more politics here, but I cannot stay quiet after reading your latest post.

                According to you, anyone who says anything against the government of Israel is an anti-semite and a lover of Hamas/Hezbollah and IR? Did Alieti say anything offensive to you? Have you met him?

                You are entitled to your opinion, but don't attack others just because they don't feel the same. I have absolutely nothing against Jews, but I don't like the Israeli government. Are you gonna label me as a Basiji lover now?

                In fact, the majority of Americans today hold negative views of the Israeli goverment. Does that make them all antisemetic?

                "Libtard"? Very mature.

                There is a reason why the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanayhu. Should we not trust them? Should we only trust media and sources that you specifically follow? I guess BBC, CNN and most other international news cooperations are just spreading fake news and lies about any wrongdoing by the Netanayhu and his crew.

                It's astonishing that so many people think that everything is black or white. You can be against IR, Trump and Netanayhu at the same time. Just because we have a common enemy (IR), it doesn't mean that we have to pretend that the other parties (US/Israel) are angels.

                The political discussion has been going on for months now. If we cannot respect each other, then I suggest that anyone who wants to write about football sticks to that from now on. Don't respond to political comments, whether you agree or not.

                Anyone who wants to discuss politics should of course be allowed to, but don't comment on football related posts unless it's respectful.

                We gain nothing by attacking each other. We won't change each others opinions, so the least we can do is to be civil.




                1. Yes you all are anti semitic because you are brainwashed by lies and propoganda and you have racism in your hearts either due to your religion or how you were raised.

                2. Okay ive repeated this many times. Israel is defending itself against terrorists that are funded by my enemy, the islamic regime (probably not your enemy since you had to come out and say something to blame israel) if you can't see that all of those innocent people that died are victims of terrorism from Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

                3. The ICC, like the UN is bought out by qatar and the regime. Dont you remember when the UN invited irgc delegation for civil rights talks after 45000 of our people were killed in Iran? Or do you want to keep talking about israel.

                4. If you are accusing israel of genocide you are already in the wrong. There was no genocide in Gaza committed by Israel. It was committed by Hamas. Lebanon is to blame for voting for Hezbollah. Stop supporting terrorists. If there are no terrorists there is no israel defending itself. These terrorists need to stop killing muslims and muslims. It is a fundamental flaw in islam that wont go away just like you and the other regime supporters continue to quote me.

                5. What are you all going to say next? The US is at fault for 911 and Osama bin Laden is a hero?
                "I'm here to clean the carpets. Most of the world is carpeted. And, one day, we will do the cleaning."

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                  This forum has unfortunately turned into a huge joke.. Shame!
                  چو ایران نباشد تن من مباد
                  We thank and support Mr.Kamran Delan for many years of dedication and service to Iranian Football Community.

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                    Originally posted by alieti View Post

                    It’s not worth your time my friend. Life is too short
                    Yeah, not even gonna bother responding to his latest post.

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                      Originally posted by Salar View Post
                      This forum has unfortunately turned into a huge joke.. Shame!
                      you cant live in a bubble anymore. The regime has to end once and for all . Then we can enjoy things like football and coffee
                      WE ARE THE UNDER DOGS

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                        Originally posted by Salar View Post
                        This forum has unfortunately turned into a huge joke.. Shame!
                        Befarma dar bareye chidemaane 4-3-2-1 harf bezan.
                        DROOD BAR AHMAD KASRAVI.

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                          This thread is about Iran and New Zealand football teams.

                          This thread is not about Israel.

                          We have threads for why you should boycott TM and how you want TM to do in this world Cup etc etc.

                          If you want to discuss politics, then please say it in the appropriate threads.

                          There is enough space and respect here for those who want TM to succeed and those who want it to fail.

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                            If you want me to stop talking stop quoting me

                            I dont care if you are wrong, if the regimes propoganda has infected your minds. Stay on the wrong side of history. Its not my problem

                            When Iran is free from the mullahs no one will ever talk about Israel again... except those few muslims that have hate in their heart for those that are kaffir
                            "I'm here to clean the carpets. Most of the world is carpeted. And, one day, we will do the cleaning."

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                              Originally posted by Messy View Post
                              If you want me to stop talking stop quoting me

                              I dont care if you are wrong, if the regimes propoganda has infected your minds. Stay on the wrong side of history. Its not my problem

                              When Iran is free from the mullahs no one will ever talk about Israel again... except those few muslims that have hate in their heart for those that are kaffir
                              47 saale shahrvandaaye Irani ke hezbollahi nistand, yani bishtare iranihaa dar Iran, aslan to fekre Felestin Pelestin o Esrael Mesrael naboodan.

                              In dargiri miyoone Arabhaa va Yahodihaa ast, va in grohake shie be naame Jomhoorie Eslaami ma raa daakhele in jange arab o jahood kard.

                              Be in migan KHARIYAT.
                              DROOD BAR AHMAD KASRAVI.

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                                Originally posted by Messy View Post

                                Why hate on a sovereign country that wants to help us get rid of the terrorist regime that occupies Iran?

                                You know when you use the word "Zionist" and "Epstein" you sound like a regime supporter.

                                If you want to last here longer you'll have to at least recognize that Israel has a right to exist and defend itself. I'm just trying to help you out, when I probably shouldn't be.
                                I hope Iran succeeds is removing the current regime as it is truly a cancer. I’m half Egyptian so I can relate as my country almost fell victim to the same thing with the Muslim Brotherhood when they took power, but that regime was quickly put to end.

                                Israel does indeed have the right to defend itself, I agree. But what about when they attack first? Respectfully, fuck Israel. They attacked Egypt in 1967 completely unprovoked over us nationalizing Suez Canal. We took control over the Canal by force from the English and French because it’s ours and they didn’t like this. Israel attacked us over this and it’s proven history. Then they cry like little bitches when we defend ourselves saying the Arabs attacked us, when we aren’t even Arabs…. Their far right parliament are even talking about potentially attacking Egypt on the basis that we have a strong military lol.

                                If you had a canal in Iran that was used by multiple countries and another small group of countries operated and made money from it, when it’s not their right to, would you take it back? If you successfully did, and one of these
                                countries decided to bomb you because you took it back, would you bomb them back?

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