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Agreed. You don't have to stick your neck out and put your life and career on the line but brown nosing the regime after everything that's happened is unforgivable.Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
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No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!Originally posted by oracle View Post
I am all for a ground invasion ,go read my posts I been saying ground invasion from day 1.
iran international is the most brained wash news agency there is is equal to shabakeyeh khabar Both are brain washing news channels .
Regarding the 40 k that was killed by the regime , yes the i.r was responsible for the massacre (worst massacre since hollycust in 36 hrs ) BUt reza pahlavai is also responsible for that massacre For calling a farakhan without any back up, and he even give farakhan one day after the massacre as well . If u see 40k are dead ,why u send them back in the street again.
Regarding u not caring about this version of tm , imo u are wrong. What do u want our players to do? Don't go , then they will send another 26 players. Take it as soccer and iran don't take it as these players are representing the ir , take it as they represent iran , as I say if taremi refuse call up they take another player.
I give u above advise because we where both kids when we came here and we both are still around, someone else I would not care to give this advise too.
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
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Tm with her demostic players on Tuesday might play persepolise
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I think all the ready to go inform foreign players should be invited doesn’t matter that position they play , if they in form and ready to play invite them , cause we need to have the experience we need to have as much talent as we can now …. These games are going to be close maybe even separated by 1 goal ……Originally posted by oracle View Post
Jh will be invited for sure.
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
they only players I can see helping us , but I fear GN will invite is a Mohanglou like for him I see him as nothing not even TM material same with nourafkan as well but I mean we see
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I think all the ready to go inform foreign players should be invited doesn’t matter that position they play , if they in form and ready to play invite them , cause we need to have the experience we need to have as much talent as we can now …. These games are going to be close maybe even separated by 1 goal ……Originally posted by oracle View Post
Jh will be invited for sure.
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
they only players I can see helping us , but I fear GN will invite is a Mohanglou like for him I see him as nothing not even TM material same with nourafkan as well but I mean we see
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saman should come in as sub,his lack of defense will hurt us in first half.saman off the bench is way to go
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When the system is a wrong system it effects the entire structure, the fact that iran system is bad is not the discussion here,.discussion is SHould we support the national team of iran under any system? Why should be prisoners of the system?Originally posted by Afat11 View Post
That is possible, but I'm still following other sports and my favorite teams as closely as ever, so not sure it's entirely on just losing interest in the footballing aspect of TM. As others have said, IR and IFF as an extension of IR have actively and passively deteriorated the status of TM. Their corruption causes TM to not have the resources, organization, grassroots levels to succeed like our talent would allow. It's partial 3rd world theocratic corruption, but also by design, in my opinion. TM was getting people too excitable, like dancing, so IR needed the team to just be good enough to save face and qualify for tournaments, but weak and fragile enough to never succeed and give people an idea that they can succeed in burying this mullah regime. Hope is a dangerous thing for IR, gotta keep people hopeless.
tomorrow let's say there is another regime in iran ,there will some percentage of people against that system as well ,NOw that tm will be be followed by them because they are against that regime and system.
My theory is to support the name of iran only , because any other way it will bring disunity among everyone. Look how proud the Mexicans are for their national team regardless of who is in charge, Colombians as well.
Problem is us Iranians are always looking for something to complain .
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That is possible, but I'm still following other sports and my favorite teams as closely as ever, so not sure it's entirely on just losing interest in the footballing aspect of TM. As others have said, IR and IFF as an extension of IR have actively and passively deteriorated the status of TM. Their corruption causes TM to not have the resources, organization, grassroots levels to succeed like our talent would allow. It's partial 3rd world theocratic corruption, but also by design, in my opinion. TM was getting people too excitable, like dancing, so IR needed the team to just be good enough to save face and qualify for tournaments, but weak and fragile enough to never succeed and give people an idea that they can succeed in burying this mullah regime. Hope is a dangerous thing for IR, gotta keep people hopeless.Originally posted by oracle View Post
I am replyingto u not to what u said, but just to tell u why loved for tm has decreased over the years.
ONE of main REason is the age of the members have gotten older .they have seen so many soccer matches in their life time ,it has became boring.
Member that started here in the 90s or early 2000 are mid 40s to early 50s now ,so the joy has increased .everything else u said I respect .
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Ibrahim tahami "jadeh team melli" is suffering from severe health issues. Hopefully he won't be 2nd player from that 98 team to pass away.
Keep him in our thoughts and prayers.
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Sayyadmanesh had an injury so wasn’t available the last fifa match day last 5 games he’s been injured for 3 and subbed off early for two - he’s got fitness issues it’s clear as dayOriginally posted by oracle View Post
Jh will be invited for sure.
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
Eckert is also injured now
Azmoun is also injured and missed the last 2 games in acle - Shabab al Ahli fans are complaining about his poor fitness a lot
seems like all 3 of these options face a race against time to get fit
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Jh will be invited for sure.Originally posted by a_m View Post
Any idea if Javad Hosseinnejad will be invited to the final squad?
gholizadeh sayedmanesh and hosseinnejad , and the Eckert these 4 are the key to us being able to open New Zealand and Egypt up …
they needs to be on the field together if we going have a chance, in my opinion!!
On the whole note about TM …
none of the TM players care for the regime anyway they mostly just play for the fans …..
but all of us we didn’t start watching this team 20 -30 years ago because of the regime we watched this team because this team was the only thing that made us feel proud of being Iranian, it was the only connection we had to Iran , it was the only thing that united all Iranian under one umbrella irregardless of your religion or political views,
The regime hated this team and still does…
they have tried so hard to destroy Persepolis and esteghla so hard , they have tried so hard to cause nothing they do can come close to how much ppl actually love and follow the Team Melli
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
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Originally posted by oracle View PostMy line up as of right now
Biravand
Daniel. Kanani. Aghasi. Nemati
Ramin. Saeed. Ehsan. Mohebi
Eckert. MediAny idea if Javad Hosseinnejad will be invited to the final squad?Originally posted by oracle View Post
Yeah in FIFA play station.
don't worry, Tm will take the field against nz , work your schedule around that match.
gholizadeh sayedmanesh and hosseinnejad , and the Eckert these 4 are the key to us being able to open New Zealand and Egypt up …
they needs to be on the field together if we going have a chance, in my opinion!!
On the whole note about TM …
none of the TM players care for the regime anyway they mostly just play for the fans …..
but all of us we didn’t start watching this team 20 -30 years ago because of the regime we watched this team because this team was the only thing that made us feel proud of being Iranian, it was the only connection we had to Iran , it was the only thing that united all Iranian under one umbrella irregardless of your religion or political views,
The regime hated this team and still does…
they have tried so hard to destroy Persepolis and esteghla so hard , they have tried so hard to cause nothing they do can come close to how much ppl actually love and follow the Team Melli
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