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In A very sad news for Egypt Mo salah will miss the wc most probably.
2nd place looks as bright as ever for team melli.
Wish Mo salah speedy recovery and hope he make it to the 26/27 football season in his new team.
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Post of the week.Originally posted by a_m View Post
Bro does IRI have democracy? No!
Is anyone that is a celebrity or athlete really allowed to have a free opinion in IRI? NO.
These players you named Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani , who pays their checks ? There no private teams in Iran it all comes from the oil money the mullahs steal , and the step it funnels down to these players probably the last part of the food chain are the athletes!
so to answer you questions they have no choice Iran is not a free society , and the IRI controls everything and everyone on their payroll! So I mean if you want to live in IRI and have some kinda of a normal life you have to comply with their bullshit rules !
what IRI does and uses it’s athletes and blackmails them and forces them to be their propaganda speakers , that is nothing we can do about that , all these 3rd world countries are fucked like this !
HAkan Sukur , he won some many titles for Galatarsy and turkey he was a legend a national treasure!!
Look where he is now , driving Uber in San Francisco? Why cause even turkey which is some what better us as a country if you speak up they ruin you take everything you own make you suffer !!
Turkey- FIFA World Cup: third place 2002[64][65][66]
Individual- Turkish Footballer of the Year: 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
- IFFHS World's Best Top Division Goal Scorer: 1997[67]
- UEFA Jubilee Awards: Turkey's Golden Player 2004[30]
- Top Scorer of Turkish League of all Times: 249 goals[68]
- Top Scoring Turkish Player in Champions League: 22 goals[32]
- Golden Foot Legends Award: 2014[69]
not a single one of these players in Iran is anywhere close to Sukur prestige and wealth , in accomplishments or achievements, club or country ! So they just to dam scared for their lives and their families lives to say anything!
Doesn’t mean they care for IRI , yes there are a few Rats like Aref aghasi he is probably a IRI rat , but the reminder just too scared to speak up , look what happened to Ali karimi , and he is loaded and has a lot of money !!
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Bro does IRI have democracy? No!Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
Are celebrity or athlete really allowed to have a free opinion in IRI? NO.
The players you named Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani , who pays their checks ?
There is no private teams in Iran , all the money comes from the oil money the mullahs steal , and the last step after they have funneled millions for themselves, is the last part of the food chain are the athletes!
so to answer you question they have no choice Iran is not a free society , and the IRI controls everything and everyone is on their payroll!
So I mean if you want to live in IRI and have some kinda of a normal life you have to comply with their bullshit rules !
what IRI does and uses it’s athletes and blackmails them and forces them to be their propaganda speakers , that is nothing we can do about that , all these 3rd world countries are fucked like this !
HAkan Sukur , he won some many titles for Galatarsy and turkey he was a legend a national treasure!!
Look where he is now , driving Uber in San Francisco? Why cause even turkey which is some what better than us as a country if you speak up they ruin you take everything you own make you suffer !!
look at all his accolades;
Turkey- FIFA World Cup: third place 2002[64][65][66]
Individual- Turkish Footballer of the Year: 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
- IFFHS World's Best Top Division Goal Scorer: 1997[67]
- UEFA Jubilee Awards: Turkey's Golden Player 2004[30]
- Top Scorer of Turkish League of all Times: 249 goals[68]
- Top Scoring Turkish Player in Champions League: 22 goals[32]
- Golden Foot Legends Award: 2014[69]
not a single one of these players in Iran is anywhere close to Sukur prestige and wealth , in accomplishments or achievements, club or country !
So they just to dam scared for their lives and their families lives to say anything!
Doesn’t mean they care for IRI ,
yes there are a few Rats like Aref aghasi he is probably a IRI rat , but the reminder just too scared to speak up , look what happened to Ali karimi , they took all his assets away , he was lucky he played in UAE and make millions there as a player , if he wasn’t then idk if he would be speaking up so much !
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I answer u laterOriginally posted by Iran_19 View Post
No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
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Agreed. You don't have to stick your neck out and put your life and career on the line but brown nosing the regime after everything that's happened is unforgivable.Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
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No one is equal to Shabeke khabar and IR!Originally posted by oracle View Post
I am all for a ground invasion ,go read my posts I been saying ground invasion from day 1.
iran international is the most brained wash news agency there is is equal to shabakeyeh khabar Both are brain washing news channels .
Regarding the 40 k that was killed by the regime , yes the i.r was responsible for the massacre (worst massacre since hollycust in 36 hrs ) BUt reza pahlavai is also responsible for that massacre For calling a farakhan without any back up, and he even give farakhan one day after the massacre as well . If u see 40k are dead ,why u send them back in the street again.
Regarding u not caring about this version of tm , imo u are wrong. What do u want our players to do? Don't go , then they will send another 26 players. Take it as soccer and iran don't take it as these players are representing the ir , take it as they represent iran , as I say if taremi refuse call up they take another player.
I give u above advise because we where both kids when we came here and we both are still around, someone else I would not care to give this advise too.
i dont want hijack the thread with politics but IR killing over 40k is Pahlavi’s fault? (and i don’t belong to any political group) how is that?
age chizi nemigoft melat migoftan bi orzehe hala ke gofte is his fault?!?!?
regarding to football, you know i was behind TM in darkest days such as 93, 2002, 2010 but lost connection with this version
how you say keep politics apart from football when lots of players such as Kanani, Alipour, Shoja, Torabi, Beiro, Hardani, and many others publicly backing this regime!
Did they have to do that in public?
come on man!!
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Tm with her demostic players on Tuesday might play persepolise
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I think all the ready to go inform foreign players should be invited doesn’t matter that position they play , if they in form and ready to play invite them , cause we need to have the experience we need to have as much talent as we can now …. These games are going to be close maybe even separated by 1 goal ……Originally posted by oracle View Post
Jh will be invited for sure.
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
they only players I can see helping us , but I fear GN will invite is a Mohanglou like for him I see him as nothing not even TM material same with nourafkan as well but I mean we see
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I think all the ready to go inform foreign players should be invited doesn’t matter that position they play , if they in form and ready to play invite them , cause we need to have the experience we need to have as much talent as we can now …. These games are going to be close maybe even separated by 1 goal ……Originally posted by oracle View Post
Jh will be invited for sure.
I didn't forget about sayadmanesh,
What position would u play him?
Unfortunately in the positions he can play we are packed. I wanted him as lb but in wc lb is sensitive position.
they only players I can see helping us , but I fear GN will invite is a Mohanglou like for him I see him as nothing not even TM material same with nourafkan as well but I mean we see
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saman should come in as sub,his lack of defense will hurt us in first half.saman off the bench is way to go
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When the system is a wrong system it effects the entire structure, the fact that iran system is bad is not the discussion here,.discussion is SHould we support the national team of iran under any system? Why should be prisoners of the system?Originally posted by Afat11 View Post
That is possible, but I'm still following other sports and my favorite teams as closely as ever, so not sure it's entirely on just losing interest in the footballing aspect of TM. As others have said, IR and IFF as an extension of IR have actively and passively deteriorated the status of TM. Their corruption causes TM to not have the resources, organization, grassroots levels to succeed like our talent would allow. It's partial 3rd world theocratic corruption, but also by design, in my opinion. TM was getting people too excitable, like dancing, so IR needed the team to just be good enough to save face and qualify for tournaments, but weak and fragile enough to never succeed and give people an idea that they can succeed in burying this mullah regime. Hope is a dangerous thing for IR, gotta keep people hopeless.
tomorrow let's say there is another regime in iran ,there will some percentage of people against that system as well ,NOw that tm will be be followed by them because they are against that regime and system.
My theory is to support the name of iran only , because any other way it will bring disunity among everyone. Look how proud the Mexicans are for their national team regardless of who is in charge, Colombians as well.
Problem is us Iranians are always looking for something to complain .
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That is possible, but I'm still following other sports and my favorite teams as closely as ever, so not sure it's entirely on just losing interest in the footballing aspect of TM. As others have said, IR and IFF as an extension of IR have actively and passively deteriorated the status of TM. Their corruption causes TM to not have the resources, organization, grassroots levels to succeed like our talent would allow. It's partial 3rd world theocratic corruption, but also by design, in my opinion. TM was getting people too excitable, like dancing, so IR needed the team to just be good enough to save face and qualify for tournaments, but weak and fragile enough to never succeed and give people an idea that they can succeed in burying this mullah regime. Hope is a dangerous thing for IR, gotta keep people hopeless.Originally posted by oracle View Post
I am replyingto u not to what u said, but just to tell u why loved for tm has decreased over the years.
ONE of main REason is the age of the members have gotten older .they have seen so many soccer matches in their life time ,it has became boring.
Member that started here in the 90s or early 2000 are mid 40s to early 50s now ,so the joy has increased .everything else u said I respect .
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