AFC U17 Asian Cup 2025

[Super Shojaei]

massive congrats to uganda for beating france and making it to the last 32

[ShirFarhad]

i can imagine it takes some effort to go to the iranian embassy in norway to make something happen? still that's effort which someone in the iff have done- why havent they done it for the other players?

Which effort? This guy seems to be fully Iranian, so even if he didn’t have a passport (which he might, if he has visited Iran), it’s just a matter of setting an appointment at the embassy and getting a new one.

Eckert’s situation is more complex because his grandfather is Iranian and they’ve lost certain documents. And to be honest, based on his interview, it also seemed that he didn’t really feel the urgency himself to do something about the situation.

And if I’m correct, Kaveh Zahiroislam is also Iranian on both sides, so he should also be able to get his own passport if he wants to.

Don’t get me wrong, IFF has shown to be incompetent in many areas, including scouting youth players, but these passport issues are also the responsibility of the players.

[Super Shojaei]

because there is no money to be made in U 17 in this scenario. But for TM you have mofia and gangs that you have to go through to get a player into the roster.

i can imagine it takes some effort to go to the iranian embassy in norway to make something happen? still that's effort which someone in the iff have done- why havent they done it for the other players?

[persian-eagle-13]

i dont get it- we push through fifa documents for a 15 year old from norway but Eckert and Zahiroislam's situations remain unresolved.

just doesnt make sense

because there is no money to be made in U 17 in this scenario. But for TM you have mofia and gangs that you have to go through to get a player into the roster.

[Super Shojaei]

The new U17 head coach has called up a diaspora player who plays in Sweden for the november qualifiers .

i dont get it- we push through fifa documents for a 15 year old from norway but Eckert and Zahiroislam's situations remain unresolved.

just doesnt make sense

[Pluto2000]

That’s great, but there’s almost no information available about him apart from a few videos that seem to have been uploaded by himself in the last couple of weeks. I’m really curious how people discovered him and concluded that he’s talented.

To me, it feels like his surroundings might have used certain connections to get him invited to our youth team, similar to what happened with Mahan Baghdadi and Arwin Javad.

In fact, when I searched for him on Vålerenga’s website, I couldn’t find any mention of him. However, I did come across an Iranian striker named Mostafa Najafzadeh, who has represented Norway’s youth team.

A simple search on Transfermarkt shows a list of dual nationals playing for Bundesliga youth teams. If we had a fair and proper scouting system, we would be inviting those players and someone like Arman Nahany, who has expressed interest in playing for Iran and has already played at a much higher level than this 15-year-old, Mahan Baghdadi, or Arwin Javad ever have.

I hope I’m wrong though and this is just a start to add more dual nationals to our youth teams.

on Team Melli twitter, some fans have given up on IFF taking action and taken it upon themselves to keep a database of as many diaspora Iranian players as possible and send it to all the coaching staff in the U17, U23, and senior team on their social medias. Can't comment on his potential connections, but I do know that this time a bunch of people spammed the new coach on instagram with the list of players .

Funny enough a few months ago I messaged afazeli about looking into Stuckler who is tearing up Serie C and his main club just got promoted to Serie A. And his response was " Hello. Please send his porfile so that we could track hime. Thsnk you"

[ShirFarhad]

That’s great, but there’s almost no information available about him apart from a few videos that seem to have been uploaded by himself in the last couple of weeks. I’m really curious how people discovered him and concluded that he’s talented.

To me, it feels like his surroundings might have used certain connections to get him invited to our youth team, similar to what happened with Mahan Baghdadi and Arwin Javad.

In fact, when I searched for him on Vålerenga’s website, I couldn’t find any mention of him. However, I did come across an Iranian striker named Mostafa Najafzadeh, who has represented Norway’s youth team.

A simple search on Transfermarkt shows a list of dual nationals playing for Bundesliga youth teams. If we had a fair and proper scouting system, we would be inviting those players and someone like Arman Nahany, who has expressed interest in playing for Iran and has already played at a much higher level than this 15-year-old, Mahan Baghdadi, or Arwin Javad ever have.

I hope I’m wrong though and this is just a start to add more dual nationals to our youth teams.

[Pluto2000]

The new U17 head coach has called up a diaspora player who plays in Sweden for the november qualifiers .

[oracle]

Ksa beat Korea in pk s
Uzbekistan beat nk 3-0

Final
Ksa vs Uzbekistan

[Super Shojaei]

I agree with you on Chamanian and he should have never been appointed but where did you get the info on the players and their clubs? There majority of the players were selected from the academies of Foolad, Sepahan and Persepolis and there were only three players without a club.



Well the same players beat Indonesia and Saudi Arabia before the tournament.

Tajikistan got to the final last time round - central Asian players are very physically strong

North Korea probably drug their players didn’t their youth women’s team fail drugs tests 5 years or so ago


it was a tough group in hindsight not making excuses because we deserved to get knocked out

I don’t buy us slipping outside the top 8

[Pluto2000]

I agree with you on Chamanian and he should have never been appointed but where did you get the info on the players and their clubs? There majority of the players were selected from the academies of Foolad, Sepahan and Persepolis and there were only three players without a club

My source was transfermarkt so it could be outdated, but AFAIK when I was going through these, I saw about 10-12 players from those academies, no KIA, and a few random ones like Paykan U17.

I really do wonder what happened though, it was astonishing that we couldn't even conjure a few passes together compared to even Tajikistan

[Nokhodi]

I agree with you on Chamanian and he should have never been appointed but where did you get the info on the players and their clubs? There majority of the players were selected from the academies of Foolad, Sepahan and Persepolis and there were only three players without a club.



Well the same players beat Indonesia and Saudi Arabia before the tournament.

I was defending Chamanian but he was apparently constantly changing the lineups and selected players. He allegedly didn’t take some of the best players of the league. Every tournament we had a whole different set of players.

I’m generally one who gives benefit of the doubt to most people, so maybe certain players were overage and he didn’t want to take them?

[ShirFarhad]

TO BE HONEST this is less about the players and more about Chamanian, where did he find these players? He is absolutely awful coach.

I took a look at the players on this team and only like 5 of them even have a club, or a youth academy. Did they find them on the streets?

What happened to recruiting players from KIA, Sepahan, Foolad, PP, SS academies? They all have U17 teams. Some of these players look like they haven't even learned the fundamentals and got picked up from their local middle school after impressing the coach in a random tryout...

I agree with you on Chamanian and he should have never been appointed but where did you get the info on the players and their clubs? There majority of the players were selected from the academies of Foolad, Sepahan and Persepolis and there were only three players without a club.

Rumours on twitter that some agents had bribed their way into the first team and on watching the matches it seems true although this is unverified

Well the same players beat Indonesia and Saudi Arabia before the tournament.

[Super Shojaei]

TO BE HONEST this is less about the players and more about Chamanian, where did he find these players? He is absolutely awful coach.

I took a look at the players on this team and only like 5 of them even have a club, or a youth academy. Did they find them on the streets?

What happened to recruiting players from KIA, Sepahan, Foolad, PP, SS academies? They all have U17 teams. Some of these players look like they haven't even learned the fundamentals and got picked up from their local middle school after impressing the coach in a random tryout...

Rumours on twitter that some agents had bribed their way into the first team and on watching the matches it seems true although this is unverified

[mani4000uk]

TO BE HONEST this is less about the players and more about Chamanian, where did he find these players? He is absolutely awful coach.

I took a look at the players on this team and only like 5 of them even have a club, or a youth academy. Did they find them on the streets?

What happened to recruiting players from KIA, Sepahan, Foolad, PP, SS academies? They all have U17 teams. Some of these players look like they haven't even learned the fundamentals and got picked up from their local middle school after impressing the coach in a random tryout...

I couldn't agree more and I think I mentioned this , there was something really off about a large number of these players not demonstrating even the basics . Chamanian did well in 2016 with the Sayadmanesh generation beating Germany 4-0 and lost in the Quarters to Spain. it is one of 2 things , either even back then he was incompetent and just had better technical team around him that resulted in a succuss of that team or he just never really progressed from 10 years ago and can no longer keep on with the current way the game is played not to mention the player selection is highly suspect, it is possible that it is a combination of al the above. we may never know the exact reason for this utter shit show.