DPR Korea vs. Iran Nov. 14th WCQ Match Thread

[Nokhodi]

I love you man, but I disagree about the shoja red card. Even if it's someone else fault that the Korean had a chance on goal, you can not stop a clear goal scoring chance that early in the match.

Let the goal keeper have a chance at stopping it.

Being down 3-1 with 11 men is a lot better than being down 3-0 with 10 men and 40 minutes left.

Defenders cannot let that go man. Its drilled into your head that you can't back down from a challenge like that.

If you were a coach and Shoja had let that go, you'd have subbed him right away.

Football is a game of millimeters, so I really don't blame him for it.

I am more concerned with Nemati being in the wrong spot for the 2nd game running

[KasraKhan]

FWIW, and I am no GN/Shoja apologist, I don't think Shoja meant to foul. It looked like their feet got caught together.

[Damavand]

Look at his penalty record man. It's pretty damn good. Not even the best go through it without missing one ore two.

I know his record is very good, but that does not excuse his decision to aim at foot level when shooting right down the middle. Just think if N Korea had equalized how we would have all felt about the missed penalty.

[The]

I disagree with the hot takes here.

We got a stupid red card, not because Khalilzadeh f***ed up but rather Nemati. Nemati got caught in no man's land again (like the Qatar game), and the path to goal was clear.
If he had been in line to catch the runner - ref would have at most given Shoja a yellow and game would have resumed usual flow.

It's on GN that he starts a turtle like Ezatollahi against a team that relies completely on combo play and speed.
Karimi was invisible.

MIDFIELDERS ARE SUPPOSED TO WIN DUELS AND CLOSE DOWN SPACE.

Some of the fans have completely lose it:
Praising Karimi when he did nothing even when we were up 3-0.
Bashing Taremi when he had 3 lovely assists, got a penalty (yeah he missed), and is the only creative outlet we have on this team.
Completely forgetting we're playing away against North Korea that spends months in camps, playing us with a man up, in a humid energy sapping weather, on a pitch that made Fooladshahr look good, after a cross continental flight, with 2 scrappy goals putting them back into it.
There is a reason alot of people half-seriously say 3-0 is the most dangerous lead.

My biggest issue with GN is his inability to fix the massive empty zone in front of our defense. Either crowd the midfield, or bring in a classic DM, because Ezatollahi and Karimi can't win the ball back.
The number of chances we gave away was mostly due to this, even with 10 men.

Overall good 3 points. That's what matters.

None of the stuff you guys are worried about will resolve itself unless a diamond in the rough CM/DM comes up in Iranian football.

I love you man, but I disagree about the shoja red card. Even if it's someone else fault that the Korean had a chance on goal, you can not stop a clear goal scoring chance that early in the match.

Let the goal keeper have a chance at stopping it.

Being down 3-1 with 11 men is a lot better than being down 3-0 with 10 men and 40 minutes left.

[a_m]

What excuses. It's football.

Is North Korea supposed to roll over for us?
We were up 3-0 and then got a red card and everything that could go right for Korea did.

We need to stop this attitude of thinking teams are beneath us.
In my whole time supporting TM - we underperform against weak and same level teams, and then perform well (usually) against better teams.

We have a coach that does more harm than good , who in the right mind subs in

mahganlou and jahanbakash in a game like this ???

this team is talented but the GN is keeps us from going to the next level that we need to be at to actually do anything in the World Cup …

[Nokhodi]

I am very disappointed with Taremi and his penalty kick. You would think all those years in Europe would teach him to aim further up if you want to kick right in the middle, this way the keeper has little to no chance of saving it with his foot.

We really needed that extra cushion the way the team had fallen apart and was under extreme pressure.

Look at his penalty record man. It's pretty damn good. Not even the best go through it without missing one ore two.

[The]

Please have her watch more TM matches.

She does, but we just haven't had the chance to watch one together since I moved countries.

She's visiting me now so the perfect opportunity.

[IRAN_TILL_I_DIE]

From our starting line up today, only 2 players play in Europe, Taremi (Inter) and Mohebi (Rostov), rest are in the Middle East!

it wasnt long ago that we would have at least 7 players from the starting 11 playing in Europe...

[Nokhodi]

I have to disagree. Are you really going to make excuses for a team loaded with talent and resources going up against North Korea? Just because the North Korean players have been in camp for months and may be used to the weather doesn’t justify the result. And by the way, the "dangerous lead" you’re referring to is actually 2-0, not 3-0.

What excuses. It's football.

Is North Korea supposed to roll over for us?
We were up 3-0 and then got a red card and everything that could go right for Korea did.

We need to stop this attitude of thinking teams are beneath us.
In my whole time supporting TM - we underperform against weak and same level teams, and then perform well (usually) against better teams.

[mehdi13]

and here is the attitude after final whistle. after almost throwing away 3-0 lead. after both failing to score again. they don’t give a f***.

[shahin2000]

I disagree with the hot takes here.

We got a stupid red card, not because Khalilzadeh f***ed up but rather Nemati. Nemati got caught in no man's land again (like the Qatar game), and the path to goal was clear.
If he had been in line to catch the runner - ref would have at most given Shoja a yellow and game would have resumed usual flow.

It's on GN that he starts a turtle like Ezatollahi against a team that relies completely on combo play and speed.
Karimi was invisible.

MIDFIELDERS ARE SUPPOSED TO WIN DUELS AND CLOSE DOWN SPACE.

Some of the fans have completely lose it:
Praising Karimi when he did nothing even when we were up 3-0.
Bashing Taremi when he had 3 lovely assists, got a penalty (yeah he missed), and is the only creative outlet we have on this team.
Completely forgetting we're playing away against North Korea that spends months in camps, playing us with a man up, in a humid energy sapping weather, on a pitch that made Fooladshahr look good, after a cross continental flight, with 2 scrappy goals putting them back into it.
There is a reason alot of people half-seriously say 3-0 is the most dangerous lead.

My biggest issue with GN is his inability to fix the massive empty zone in front of our defense. Either crowd the midfield, or bring in a classic DM, because Ezatollahi and Karimi can't win the ball back.
The number of chances we gave away was mostly due to this, even with 10 men.

Overall good 3 points. That's what matters.

None of the stuff you guys are worried about will resolve itself unless a diamond in the rough CM/DM comes up in Iranian football.

I have to disagree. Are you really going to make excuses for a team loaded with talent and resources going up against North Korea? Just because the North Korean players have been in camp for months and may be used to the weather doesn’t justify the result. And by the way, the "dangerous lead" you’re referring to is actually 2-0, not 3-0.

[Damavand]

I am very disappointed with Taremi and his penalty kick. You would think all those years in Europe would teach him to aim further up if you want to kick right in the middle, this way the keeper has little to no chance of saving it with his foot.

We really needed that extra cushion the way the team had fallen apart and was under extreme pressure.

[Nokhodi]

The only upside of this shitshow is that I got to watch a TM with my mom for the first time since the 2018 game against Morocco.

Please have her watch more TM matches.

[Nokhodi]

I disagree with the hot takes here.

We got a stupid red card, not because Khalilzadeh f***ed up but rather Nemati. Nemati got caught in no man's land again (like the Qatar game), and the path to goal was clear.
If he had been in line to catch the runner - ref would have at most given Shoja a yellow and game would have resumed usual flow.

It's on GN that he starts a turtle like Ezatollahi against a team that relies completely on combo play and speed.
Karimi was invisible.

MIDFIELDERS ARE SUPPOSED TO WIN DUELS AND CLOSE DOWN SPACE.

Some of the fans have completely lose it:
Praising Karimi when he did nothing even when we were up 3-0.
Bashing Taremi when he had 3 lovely assists, got a penalty (yeah he missed), and is the only creative outlet we have on this team.
Completely forgetting we're playing away against North Korea that spends months in camps, playing us with a man up, in a humid energy sapping weather, on a pitch that made Fooladshahr look good, after a cross continental flight, with 2 scrappy goals putting them back into it.
There is a reason alot of people half-seriously say 3-0 is the most dangerous lead.

My biggest issue with GN is his inability to fix the massive empty zone in front of our defense. Either crowd the midfield, or bring in a classic DM, because Ezatollahi and Karimi can't win the ball back.
The number of chances we gave away was mostly due to this, even with 10 men.

Overall good 3 points. That's what matters.

None of the stuff you guys are worried about will resolve itself unless a diamond in the rough CM/DM comes up in Iranian football.

[a_m]

Can we stop to think, who in their right mind put GN in charge , and whoever did that should wake the Hell up quickly ,,,,

this game , like I said before TM will qualify no problem to the World Cup even without a coach , it is at the World Cup what can we really do , with this squad and coach ,,,,

yes the other Asian teams are struggling a bit cause they have gone young , I watched Australia vs Saudi, both teams have changed a lot of new faces , even from the Asian cup you can tell they both , getting ready for the World Cup

but we still playing Old Shoja and khar mahgonlou, we have 3 young players who would have turn this game around , but GN choose to do stilly ass substitutes , no logic at all …