Iran vs. Kyrgyzstan Sept 5th WCQ Match Thread

[Pluto2000]

We have to remember that our football is not an equation where 1+1=2, especially now under GN.

Just because we played poorly today, does not mean we will struggle against Qatar, UAE, etc. I expect us to play a lot better.

For example, none of us expected to play half as well as we did against Japan, after our performance against Hong Kong in the Asian Cup.

Here are my takeaways from the game:

-kyrgyzstan did well in forming a compact defense and hustling. You can tell they were playing with more hunger.

-we lacked urgency & pace in our ball movement. I really disliked our strategy of moving the ball side to side then sending a cross in the box. I don’t remember us ever being a good crossing team. We needed to do much more simple 1-2’s in final third, something that Taremi & Torabi tried to do.

-GN needs to tell Ghoddos to be much more aggressive, especially in taking shots. Ever since he went to Brentford, you can tell his focus has been on retaining posession, not losing the ball, etc. But he’s too good not to express himself more. It’s frustrating to watch because this is 100% fixable.

-Not a fan of Nourafkhan. His shots were decent, but he needs to offer much more as a midfielder.

*Don’t want to rehash old news, but overall, ironically, ive found TM’s offensive displays much more fluid under CQ’s reign than GN’s.

Examples against superior opposition (on paper) included:

-Wales
-Uruguay
-Portugal
-Spain
-Argentina

Its funny how our problem yet again goes back to how poor our midfield is. Especially since we play 2 striker formation. That means our 2 midfielders in the middle need the base of the team. We really need Hosseinejad to succeed Ghoddos there ASAP. Need someone who can hustle and distribute the ball with pace. Love Ghoddos but he should be benched until he finds a club.

[PEJ]

You'd think that after the 1st goal they would've learned to keep shooting low shots and allow the ball to skip on that nasty pitch. We had 2 shots on target out of 20 shots!! Guys were kicking field goals one after another. It doesn't take a world class coach to be able to pick up on that. You mean to tell me no one told the players " guys stop shooting for the stars aim low!!" Are we really that dumb??

Not an excuse. These guys are pros so they should be able to adjust. However as player who played on the shittiest fields on earth, trying to receive and set a ball to strike on crappy a surface is a Herculean task. That ball is always bouncing and it takes a lot of concentration to strike that ball with precision.

[Prowess]

We have to remember that our football is not an equation where 1+1=2, especially now under GN.

Just because we played poorly today, does not mean we will struggle against Qatar, UAE, etc. I expect us to play a lot better.

For example, none of us expected to play half as well as we did against Japan, after our performance against Hong Kong in the Asian Cup.

Here are my takeaways from the game:

-kyrgyzstan did well in forming a compact defense and hustling. You can tell they were playing with more hunger.

-we lacked urgency & pace in our ball movement. I really disliked our strategy of moving the ball side to side then sending a cross in the box. I don’t remember us ever being a good crossing team. We needed to do much more simple 1-2’s in final third, something that Taremi & Torabi tried to do.

-GN needs to tell Ghoddos to be much more aggressive, especially in taking shots. Ever since he went to Brentford, you can tell his focus has been on retaining posession, not losing the ball, etc. But he’s too good not to express himself more. It’s frustrating to watch because this is 100% fixable.

-Not a fan of Nourafkhan. His shots were decent, but he needs to offer much more as a midfielder.

*Don’t want to rehash old news, but overall, ironically, ive found TM’s offensive displays much more fluid under CQ’s reign than GN’s.

Examples against superior opposition (on paper) included:

-Wales
-Uruguay
-Portugal
-Spain
-Argentina

[koorosh]

Not a very good analysis. Complaining about everything including why Kanaani and Yusefi got to play instead of Kanaani and Rezaian. Then complains about Shoja being too old!



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[Damavand]

[koorosh]

Too much hysteria.

You guys watch too much high end football and then expect our players to play like them and GN be Guardiola..

Our players are crap and our coach is crap and the field was crap, and VAR was crap...do you think we are Switzerland?

Got the result we wanted.

Next game.



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[Pluto2000]

You'd think that after the 1st goal they would've learned to keep shooting low shots and allow the ball to skip on that nasty pitch. We had 2 shots on target out of 20 shots!! Guys were kicking field goals one after another. It doesn't take a world class coach to be able to pick up on that. You mean to tell me no one told the players " guys stop shooting for the stars aim low!!" Are we really that dumb??

All these staff on TM are there to eat chai nabat. What does Andranik even do?

[Ali Doust]

You'd think that after the 1st goal they would've learned to keep shooting low shots and allow the ball to skip on that nasty pitch. We had 2 shots on target out of 20 shots!! Guys were kicking field goals one after another. It doesn't take a world class coach to be able to pick up on that. You mean to tell me no one told the players " guys stop shooting for the stars aim low!!" Are we really that dumb??

[mehdi13]

Ghalenoei at the wheel

4 players from Europe

7 players from UAE, Qatar or unemployed

Rest from IPL

Back to the Stone Age

[Pluto2000]

I am not worried for Australia or korea, they will step up when it matters and do the job.

In our side, we are going to crash out sudden and badly very soon. GN set us a new low record with goals conceded against Afghanistan Kenya hk, loss against Qatar we always beat. It is now the turn of uae and uzbek we always beat before to finally beat us.

We could have had a smooth generation transition and qualifiers if this stubborn moron didn't boycott the youngsters and pick non tm material since 2 years. The star squad he wants to hide behind is now a bunch of uae league goozoo and jobless players. Cinderella effect.

We've tied Uzbekistan twice now, the writing has been on the wall lol. We cant keep tying them forever, eventually we will finally lose.

[PSGman#19]

I am not worried for Australia or korea, they will step up when it matters and do the job.

In our side, we are going to crash out sudden and badly very soon. GN set us a new low record with goals conceded against Afghanistan Kenya hk, loss against Qatar we always beat. It is now the turn of uae and uzbek we always beat before to finally beat us.

We could have had a smooth generation transition and qualifiers if this stubborn moron didn't boycott the youngsters and pick non tm material since 2 years. The star squad he wants to hide behind is now a bunch of uae league goozoo and jobless players. Cinderella effect.

[Pluto2000]

Btw, the excuses about facilities makes no sense against Kyrgyzstan. It's not like they have state of the art facilities and preparation.

They're only ranked 132 in the world. TBH im surprised we even won considering their super high ranking! I wish one day we could have the same facilities as Kyrgyzstan. Our players could wish they could be in the same clubs as some of their players.... imagine if Taremi could have the honor of playing for Kyrgyzstani league AFC powerhouse club named Bishkek

[The]

Btw, the excuses about facilities makes no sense against Kyrgyzstan. It's not like they have state of the art facilities and preparation.

[sam20]

Wow that was just a pathetic performance.

We didn't even deserve the win, considering the chances we gave them and how poor our attack was.

We play with two strikers, yet we have Zero creativity or defensive stability in the midfield! What's the point?? Two strikers up top with no service.

Why not just play with one striker and at least have more control of midfield and add another body to help defend?

Things are just getting worse and worse with this amateur Ghalenoie.

We aren't beating Uzbekistan like this... Wouldn't even be a big surprise if we finish 3rd in the group!

[perspolis#1]

Strategy means nothing if your players can't string a few passes together. Means nothing if they are unwilling to run hard.

I am sure his strategy would sound fairly reasonable. What you saw was the execution.

He put players that can run at defences and break through lines (Ghoddos, Ghaedi, Hezbollahi). He put in players that can cross the ball into the box (Milad, JB, Gholi), he put in player that scores regularly with his head (Sardar). We had a very offensive line up and subs were mostly the same). It's up to the players.

This is WCQ.
Indonesia Rank 133, ties Saudi in Saudi!
Bahrain, rank 80, Beats Aussies in Australia!
Palestine, rank 96 ties Korea in Seoul!

We won. Was a terrible win. Next game.

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The coaches job is to make players sync and for a squad that has played together for close to 8 years it felt like they had never played together. That is bad.

There was no strategy. Throwing players in and saying "berin gol bezanin" is something anyone on this site could do for free.

As for hard work, the coaches job is to motivate the team as well. For as negative as CQ's tactics were, he had this squad outrunning South Korea, Argentina, Nigeria, and Wales. Even Skocic got more workrate out of them.

If Ghalenoei wants to be known as a disciplinarian than he should get our team to run 100% effort. Sir Alex or Mourinho would have beaten Azmoun to death with a hairdryer for his laziness today.

Not up their gears for what season? The only players season who is at a high pace is Taremi's the rest play in leagues with jogging pace

This game by the way was our easiest game on paper.

Every other team in the group poses somewhat of an offensive threat to us.