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  • perspolis#1
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    I'm sorry, was my comprehension of your ~20 word original post wrong?

    In fact Saman hasn't avoided being targeted. He has faced direct criticism from some of "those " people .

    And you know, my first reaction of that interview clip, as Saman sheepishly confirmed that they record him so that he doesn't say the wrong thing, was...why does he allow himself to be treated as such? As a person who grew up and lives in a free society, how can he allow the loss of his rights? What does he gain by that public loss of dignity that was documented for his native Sweden and projected on social media.



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    You first called it a long answer and now its 20 words, so which is it?

    Some people always dreamed of playing for Team Melli from a young age regardless of the implications/complications. Love of your country can be greater than hatred of a regime.

    Players including Daei, Karimi, Bagheri, Zarrincheh, etc all have gone to US/Europe, greencards or otherwise and get exposed to life there and seem to prefer it and want those freedoms for Iranians.

    I doubt Ghoddos gains anything from this obvious truth being revealed to the world.

    If everybody in Iran who knows what a free society is left Iran, the only people left would be the regime's folks and religious zealots from Afghanistan and Pakistan and our country would deteriorate.

    Sepas, I'm happy these things are not an issue for our team in our chances in winning the tournament and Unfortunately will rear its ugly head 1000x over in 2026.

    Last edited by perspolis#1; 01-28-2024, 10:20 AM.

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  • koorosh
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    Originally posted by perspolis#1 View Post

    You need to work on reading comprehension.

    I said I do not care about their background. There ARE people who do, who have messed up our teams mental game before just as they were tearing down Taremi before the World Cup.

    I don't want them to consider political backgrounds of families, but these people do.

    Talk of "infecting" is you projecting, the reason Poya Asbaghi won't ever be called up to help our national team is because of some mouthbreather in Iran's government who reads that Poya's family ran away because of political persecution.

    So my short answer to your narrow response is there are people who use their background to propel their own agenda and I'm happy Saman avoids all the bullets so we have our only good CM and EPL player since the Dejagah era.



    I'm sorry, was my comprehension of your ~20 word original post wrong?

    In fact Saman hasn't avoided being targeted. He has faced direct criticism from some of "those " people .

    And you know, my first reaction of that interview clip, as Saman sheepishly confirmed that they record him so that he doesn't say the wrong thing, was...why does he allow himself to be treated as such? As a person who grew up and lives in a free society, how can he allow the loss of his rights? What does he gain by that public loss of dignity that was documented for his native Sweden and projected on social media.



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  • perspolis#1
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    So by your line of thought...

    Taremi 's father, who is a Hezbollahi hurts our chances in this tournament and we should be upset about it?

    Poya Asbaghis family who "fled persecution from Iran"...we should find out if they were part of one of your defined cults...and if so, we should not invite him because his family could have infected him and that could hurt our chances in a tournament?

    TM selection should consider the leanings of the mothers and fathers of the players so that it wouldn't hurt us in a tournament!

    Because the short summary of your long answer is: I don't believe in mixing sports and politics but we should assess the political leanings of the families of the players because that could hurt us in a tournament.



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    You need to work on reading comprehension.

    I said I do not care about their background. There ARE people who do, who have messed up our teams mental game before just as they were tearing down Taremi before the World Cup.

    I don't want them to consider political backgrounds of families, but these people do.

    Talk of "infecting" is you projecting, the reason Poya Asbaghi won't ever be called up to help our national team is because of some mouthbreather in Iran's government who reads that Poya's family ran away because of political persecution.

    So my short answer to your narrow response is there are people who use their background to propel their own agenda and I'm happy Saman avoids all the bullets so we have our only good CM and EPL player since the Dejagah era.




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  • Artaxerxes
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    So by your line of thought...

    Taremi 's father, who is a Hezbollahi hurts our chances in this tournament and we should be upset about it?

    Poya Asbaghis family who "fled persecution from Iran"...we should find out if they were part of one of your defined cults...and if so, we should not invite him because his family could have infected him and that could hurt our chances in a tournament?

    TM selection should consider the leanings of the mothers and fathers of the players so that it wouldn't hurt us in a tournament!

    Because the short summary of your long answer is: I don't believe in mixing sports and politics but we should assess the political leanings of the families of the players because that could hurt us in a tournament.



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    Is Taremis father hezbollahi? Didint know that, wonder what he thinks of that his son barely sings that filthy i.r anthem anymore....

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  • koorosh
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    Originally posted by perspolis#1 View Post

    1. A family that exists outside of being a part of a cult.

    2. No it doesn't nor their political leanings, I genuinely think Torabi should start vs Japan and I don't hate the guy for being Hezbollahi, I hate him for being an idiot who disrespected our fans. In Ghoddos's case , I'm happy he can keep away from the hatred just on the basis alone.

    3. Absolutely not. In our current climate, if he was born into the former(who are common in Sweden), he couldn't play for Iran, and in the latter would get ire from the Alinejad crew.

    4. I'm happy he is neither so it doesn't mess with his head during this tournament as its the last time we can accomplish anything with this generation as he's the only modern player we have besides Azmoun and Taremi.

    5. I don't believe in mixing politics and sport. I very loudly rooted for Team Melli during the World Cup and caused a lot of anger/yelling from people at 5am in my work callroom when Cheshmi scored. I just know there are some extreme leanings of Iranians in the US/Europe and happy he is not of them as it helps our chances in this tournament.
    So by your line of thought...

    Taremi 's father, who is a Hezbollahi hurts our chances in this tournament and we should be upset about it?

    Poya Asbaghis family who "fled persecution from Iran"...we should find out if they were part of one of your defined cults...and if so, we should not invite him because his family could have infected him and that could hurt our chances in a tournament?

    TM selection should consider the leanings of the mothers and fathers of the players so that it wouldn't hurt us in a tournament!

    Because the short summary of your long answer is: I don't believe in mixing sports and politics but we should assess the political leanings of the families of the players because that could hurt us in a tournament.



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  • Ardalan
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    Originally posted by Iranianarsenal11 View Post

    Why doesn't Masih Alinejad and her scum bag mafia ever talk about this in order to weaken IR? Why do they vent their anger on players like Saman?

    At this point if it isn't pure vatanfourushi idk what it is?????
    In Alinejad tanha yek abzaare Amrika shodeh.
    Mobaareze Iranihaa ba Jomhoorie Eslami az tarighe in fard nabayad bood.

    Dar zemn: Che gohi hast in regim, va Saman khaayeh daasht va goft che kaar mikonand.
    Beran naneh o babaaye bogandoshoon raa zabt konand. Gooshi bezaran to koone Khamenei.

    Dame Saman garm ke faghat baraye mardom baazi nikone.

    Torabi: tof be vojoodet, khaayeh nadari.

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  • perspolis#1
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    Originally posted by koorosh View Post
    An innocent comment...that is wrong on so many levels.

    1. What is a normal family?
    2. Does the family of a soccer player affect your take on them?
    3. If Saman came from a Hezbollahi family, does it mean that he is has to bear your hatred of the said families? Do children of MEK and Hezbollahi share their guilt?
    4. Are you planning to marry Saman that you care so much about label his family bear?...that you are "so happy" that he supposedly is not Hezbollahi/MEK?
    5. When Alinejad mixes sports and politics...it is bad, but it's okay if you do it?


    1. A family that exists outside of being a part of a cult.

    2. No it doesn't nor their political leanings, I genuinely think Torabi should start vs Japan and I don't hate the guy for being Hezbollahi, I hate him for being an idiot who disrespected our fans. In Ghoddos's case , I'm happy he can keep away from the hatred just on the basis alone.

    3. Absolutely not. In our current climate, if he was born into the former(who are common in Sweden), he couldn't play for Iran, and in the latter would get ire from the Alinejad crew.

    4. I'm happy he is neither so it doesn't mess with his head during this tournament as its the last time we can accomplish anything with this generation as he's the only modern player we have besides Azmoun and Taremi.

    5. I don't believe in mixing politics and sport. I very loudly rooted for Team Melli during the World Cup and caused a lot of anger/yelling from people at 5am in my work callroom when Cheshmi scored. I just know there are some extreme leanings of Iranians in the US/Europe and happy he is not of them as it helps our chances in this tournament.
    Last edited by perspolis#1; 01-27-2024, 07:39 PM.

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  • koorosh
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    Originally posted by perspolis#1 View Post
    Between some of the Hezbollahis and MEK that live in Sweden I'm so happy Saman came from a normal family
    An innocent comment...that is wrong on so many levels.

    1. What is a normal family?
    2. Does the family of a soccer player affect your take on them?
    3. If Saman came from a Hezbollahi family, does it mean that he is has to bear your hatred of the said families? Do children of MEK and Hezbollahi share their guilt?
    4. Are you planning to marry Saman that you care so much about label his family bear?...that you are "so happy" that he supposedly is not Hezbollahi/MEK?
    5. When Alinejad mixes sports and politics...it is bad, but it's okay if you do it?







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  • Tarsal Claw
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    I really like this guy and feel he has been underutilized for a long time (for whatever reason). I bet his stock will increase after this tournament. Unfortunately Father Time is not on his side.

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