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Thanks for a little bit of history on Pan-Iranist movement, but if one reads more Indepth on the subject, one will discover that the Pan-Iranist has always been about inclusion of Iranian people (of all color and creed and region) and not separation or inequality. The Pan-Iranist movement started as a response to Pan-Turkism or Pan-Arabism which tried to disintegrate Iran and Iranian people. I agree, that if you look at the symbol today and without understanding its background, it may suggest that has been copied from the Nazi Germany. The truth is, Germans copied it from artifacts discovered in Persia (i.e. Kerman) and modified it and gave it a different meaning. That being said, because the public knowledge about Pan-Iranist movement and its symbols is generally not a detailed and accurate level, I took your suggestion and changed my avatar to avoid any confusion. Cheers!Originally posted by Rooyintan View Post
I guess it might be your profile picture that made him think so. Pan-Iranist logo inequality sign in middle of white center on a red flag which they copied of SUMKA who themselves imitated Nazi Germany. Such sign is as offensive as we would find Pan-Turk and White Supremacist logos offensive.
The Pan-Iranists should really remove inequality sign which is seen as offensive and intolerant.
Watch this video, then you would know what transpired which eventually resulted in rightful Persian Gulf named Arabian Gulf.
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How did this happen?Originally posted by Ardalan View Post
Koftesh beshe.
I don't want to say "bichareh Torabi" but how does Torabi get his own IN OR OUT thread, and people just gloss by Amiri.
Amiri's track record in terms of instagram posts/stories and statements in support of Khamenei etc... is as bad, if not worse, than Torabi
Torabi is just disliked because of his khomar appearance and the fact that he isn't indispensible, whereas Amiri is a crucial player within the TM setup and particularly under Queiroz because of his work-rate and box-to-box play. If I were a manager who didn't really care about human life, sure, Amiri would be my key player.
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Originally posted by allan123 View PostPlease moderator Ban again Kateb, thanks.
Your only contribution to this forum is to ask for mods to ban members (you have requested mods to ban Kateb 5 times over the last few days), asking mods to close threads, to constantly say that sports and politics don't mix whilst our kids are getting killed and sportspersons getting arrested, and to be obsessed with Skocic.
I may disagree strongly with Mashsaeed on his stance towards Amiri and towards the importance of a game of football over human life, but he is still worth a lot to this forum and to be honest, just look at your post history...
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Just the fact you sacrifice your logo,Originally posted by Kavian View Post
Thanks for a little bit of history on Pan-Iranist movement, but if one reads more Indepth on the subject, one will discover that the Pan-Iranist has always been about inclusion of Iranian people (of all color and creed and region) and not separation or inequality. The Pan-Iranist movement started as a response to Pan-Turkism or Pan-Arabism which tried to disintegrate Iran and Iranian people. I agree, that if you look at the symbol today and without understanding its background, it may suggest that has been copied from the Nazi Germany. The truth is, Germans copied it from artifacts discovered in Persia (i.e. Kerman) and modified it and gave it a different meaning. That being said, because the public knowledge about Pan-Iranist movement and its symbols is generally not a detailed and accurate level, I took your suggestion and changed my avatar to avoid any confusion. Cheers!
Watch this video, then you would know what transpired which eventually resulted in rightful Persian Gulf named Arabian Gulf.
I will sacrifice the salavat thread as well
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Thank you for the video.Originally posted by Kavian View Post
Thanks for a little bit of history on Pan-Iranist movement, but if one reads more Indepth on the subject, one will discover that the Pan-Iranist has always been about inclusion of Iranian people (of all color and creed and region) and not separation or inequality. The Pan-Iranist movement started as a response to Pan-Turkism or Pan-Arabism which tried to disintegrate Iran and Iranian people. I agree, that if you look at the symbol today and without understanding its background, it may suggest that has been copied from the Nazi Germany. The truth is, Germans copied it from artifacts discovered in Persia (i.e. Kerman) and modified it and gave it a different meaning. That being said, because the public knowledge about Pan-Iranist movement and its symbols is generally not a detailed and accurate level, I took your suggestion and changed my avatar to avoid any confusion. Cheers!
Watch this video, then you would know what transpired which eventually resulted in rightful Persian Gulf named Arabian Gulf.
Also your new profile picture looks great.
I am aware that Pan-Iranist Party are for territorial integrity of Iran, also for harmony and unity of all ethnic groups in Iran. However, their flags and symbolism is the problem and will confuse people. Inequality Sign is a bad choice of symbol.
Bad choice of flags:
Resembles
Such resemblance would make people believe that Pan-Iranist share the same ideology as
Iran has so many ancient symbols, wouldn't flags such as the following would have been better for Pan-Iranist Party to use?
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My profile picture is Khodadad Azizi wrapped in flag.Originally posted by Kavian View PostThat being said, because the public knowledge about Pan-Iranist movement and its symbols is generally not a detailed and accurate level, I took your suggestion and changed my avatar to avoid any confusion. Cheers!
In your opinion and other forum members, should I change my profile picture? I think it is outdated. Please everyone post your thoughts, so I can come up with something different.
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He was Ali Karimi's mouthpiece when it was against CQ - but he's been quiet while Ali Karimi has been doing incredible Iran-parast work.Originally posted by Rooyintan View Post
My profile picture is Khodadad Azizi wrapped in flag.
In your opinion and other forum members, should I change my profile picture? I think it is outdated. Please everyone post your thoughts, so I can come up with something different.
It's time for a fresh look Rooyintan jaan."This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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What is wrong with former Team Melli footballers? Why so disrespectful?
https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...A8%D9%88%D8%AF
https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...A7%D8%B1%D9%85
OK their comments would have been valid, had Team Melli defeated Nicaragua by a large margin, but when Team Melli only had a narrow win versus Nicaragua, then there is no need for mockery or criticism for choice of such opponent.
Those who make such disrespectful comments about Nicaragua Football Team, don't realize that many of Nicaragua's experienced players did not play.
See their veterans and experienced players were not in the squad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicara...ecent_call-ups
So the friendly match was a game between less experienced players from both teams, however Team Melli actually had more experienced players, so if they want to criticize or mock they should do that for Team Melli players who played.
From 2010 not many teams are willing to come to Iran.
Teams who came to Iran for friendly matches from 2010 onward:
AFC: Japan, South Korea, Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Indonesia U23.
CAF: Madagascar, Mozambique, Mauritania, Guinea, Togo, Sierra Leone.
CONCACAF: Trinidad and Tobago, Nicaragua.
CONMEBOL: Bolivia.
UEFA: none.
OFC: none.
So they should take into account that many countries refuse to come to Iran for friendly including those whose countries have good relations with IRI, such as Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Lebanon, Yemen, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Turkey, Armenia, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Belarus, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Venezuela, Cuba, Senegal, Ghana, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mali or those who have somewhat good relations such as Macedonia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Ecuador, Nigeria, DR Congo, Niger, Tanzania, South Africa, etc.
It is always better to take opportunity of International Football Friendlies to play new opponents or those whom Team Melli rarely faced instead of regular AFC opponents.
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guys like pious and TM players from the era that got the most embarrassing results in TM history (1990 and 1994 WCQs) should have no right to speak on anything related to TM. That Nicaragua team would run circles around his TM.Originally posted by Rooyintan View PostWhat is wrong with former Team Melli footballers? Why so disrespectful?
https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...A8%D9%88%D8%AF
https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...A7%D8%B1%D9%85
OK their comments would have been valid, had Team Melli defeated Nicaragua by a large margin, but when Team Melli only had a narrow win versus Nicaragua, then there is no need for mockery or criticism for choice of such opponent.
Those who make such disrespectful comments about Nicaragua Football Team, don't realize that many of Nicaragua's experienced players did not play.
See their veterans and experienced players were not in the squad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicara...ecent_call-ups
So the friendly match was a game between less experienced players from both teams, however Team Melli actually had more experienced players, so if they want to criticize or mock they should do that for Team Melli players who played.
From 2010 not many teams are willing to come to Iran.
Teams who came to Iran for friendly matches from 2010 onward:
AFC: Japan, South Korea, Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Indonesia U23.
CAF: Madagascar, Mozambique, Mauritania, Guinea, Togo, Sierra Leone.
CONCACAF: Trinidad and Tobago, Nicaragua.
CONMEBOL: Bolivia.
UEFA: none.
OFC: none.
So they should take into account that many countries refuse to come to Iran for friendly including those whose countries have good relations with IRI, such as Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Lebanon, Yemen, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Turkey, Armenia, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Belarus, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Venezuela, Cuba, Senegal, Ghana, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mali or those who have somewhat good relations such as Macedonia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Ecuador, Nigeria, DR Congo, Niger, Tanzania, South Africa, etc.
It is always better to take opportunity of International Football Friendlies to play new opponents or those whom Team Melli rarely faced instead of regular AFC opponents.
Team Meli Iran
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Actually 1990-1991 Team Melli was really strong. Farshad was a really good player. One of my favorite of all time. I don't know why that generation are so arrogant though??!!!Originally posted by Ghermez Agha View Post
guys like pious and TM players from the era that got the most embarrassing results in TM history (1990 and 1994 WCQs) should have no right to speak on anything related to TM. That Nicaragua team would run circles around his TM.
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His comment wasn't appropriate but Farshad was real finisher.Originally posted by Ghermez Agha View Post
guys like pious and TM players from the era that got the most embarrassing results in TM history (1990 and 1994 WCQs) should have no right to speak on anything related to TM. That Nicaragua team would run circles around his TM.
For me he is a top 5 finisher in history of Iranian football
Daei
Sardar
Taremi
Roshan
Farshad
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90 team was young. Monajati changed alot of players.
94 team was Ok, but Abdz injury fucked things up badly. Nothikg is worst than having tokhmi keeper
Gholampour was unbeatable in league but shit the bed badly in TM. Couldn't handle NT pressure
His performance kind of drained all energy for the rest of the team.
Also Parvin khepel wasn't a coach tbh.
That also didn't help but the squad wasn't bad actually.
Mehdi Fonini, manafi, zarincheh, estili, daei, bagheri, marfavi, abtahi, majid namjoo, nader mohammadkhani
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Vaghean gol gofty. These so called pishkesvat that basically accomplished zero in top international level, neither as player or coach talks to much.They dont even have a clue the purpose of this game. Like I red an interview with Zia Arabshahi in Khabar Varzeshi yesteryday where he said any team in IPL would crush Nicaragua.... Gheib goft. Halem beham mikhore azina. Or Naser Mohammadkhani said today "I dont understand how they could give Ali Daei's nr 10 to such a young player (Barzegar). I dont really understand what they are smoking.Originally posted by Ghermez Agha View Post
guys like pious and TM players from the era that got the most embarrassing results in TM history (1990 and 1994 WCQs) should have no right to speak on anything related to TM. That Nicaragua team would run circles around his TM.
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There is no doubt he was good player/finisher but only not even top in the Asia. During his 10 years in TM, he played 34 games and scored 18 goals. Let alone his disaster coaching career. Believe me, it might sound silly but I would go so far and rate even Karim Ansarifard higher than Pious when you look at overall performance both in club and international history and consistency.Originally posted by Iran_19 View PostHis comment wasn't appropriate but Farshad was real finisher.
For me he is a top 5 finisher in history of Iranian football
Daei
Sardar
Taremi
Roshan
Farshad
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90 team was young. Monajati changed alot of players.
94 team was Ok, but Abdz injury fucked things up badly. Nothikg is worst than having tokhmi keeper
Gholampour was unbeatable in league but shit the bed badly in TM. Couldn't handle NT pressure
His performance kind of drained all energy for the rest of the team.
Also Parvin khepel wasn't a coach tbh.
That also didn't help but the squad wasn't bad actually.
Mehdi Fonini, manafi, zarincheh, estili, daei, bagheri, marfavi, abtahi, majid namjoo, nader mohammadkhani
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