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    Originally posted by Ghormeh Sabzi View Post
    jabbari is heart and soul of SS
    be omid khoda he'll be fine
    If it is Ligament related, I doubt it if he will be back sooner than 6 months at best. Considering his knee situation before, this is really worrisome, many great football players had to cut their pro life short due to Ligament injuries. Wish him a speedy recovery and hopefully it isn't a ligament (just meniscus or cartilage).
    "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
    Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



    Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
    Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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      Who do u think will play in the next game on the left peeston? I think GN will start Maniee again. AmirAbadi maybe deserves a chance, but I don't think we will see him on the left.

      I wish Mr. Daie would give Khosro Haydari a try in the Qatar game. He is much better than GholamNezhad I think (in current form). To be honest Kaabi hasn't been outstanding either lately. If Haydari can play in a 3-5-2 and do a good job in defense, he should be able to play right mid or RB even (with a bit of training for a RB (offsides and other specific trainings for the backs)).
      "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
      Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



      Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
      Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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        Originally posted by Ali Chicago View Post
        If it is Ligament related, I doubt it if he will be back sooner than 6 months at best. Considering his knee situation before, this is really worrisome, many great football players had to cut their pro life short due to Ligament injuries. Wish him a speedy recovery and hopefully it isn't a ligament (just meniscus or cartilage).
        he hasn't torn his ligament (keshide shode)




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          Originally posted by Agha Kasra View Post
          he hasn't torn his ligament (keshide shode)

          Well, MRIs at least the one based on my personal experience are not very reliable and usually inconclusive (My MRIs were a while back though, so things may have improved now). I heard now they have colored MRI. Point is can't rely much on MRIs. Even with a streched ligament in his left, (this is his left knee, not the right one who he had issues with in the past), I think he will be away for couple of months. I sure miss him and wish him a speedy recovery.
          "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
          Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



          Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
          Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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            Ali jaan before I forget, what is the difference (quality) of a coloured MRI and a normal MRI. is it much difference?




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              Originally posted by Payam_S View Post
              در حضور واعظ آشتياني

              هواداران استقلال تهران عليه دايي شعار دادند

              خبرگزاري فارس: هواداران تيم فوتبال استقلال تهران در جريان تمرين امروز اين تيم و در حمايت از مهاجم تيم خود عليه سرمربي تيم ملي شعار سر دادند.


              به گزارش خبرگزاري فارس، تمرين عصر امروز استقلال ساعت 15:30 در ورزشگاه دستگردي برگزار شد.
              ميلاد نوري، آرش برهاني و مجتبي جباري از غابان تمرين بودند، البته قرار است برهاني كه در دبي بسر مي برد فردا در تمرينات حضور پيدا كند.
              بهشاد ياورزاده بازيكن سابق آبي پوشان كه در حال حاضر در تيمي حضور ندارد، با اجازه قلعه نويي از امروز در تمرينات استقلال شركت كرد و ظاهرا قرار است از اين به بعد در تمرينات اين تيم حضور داشته باشد.
              200 هوادار در اين جلسه تمريني حضور داشتند و در حمايت از آرش برهاني، عليه علي دايي شعار سرداده و به سرمربي تيم ملي دعوت اين بازيكن را گوشزد كردند.
              كوشكي، نادعلي و بيات بازيكناني بودند كه زير نظر نوروزي تمرينات خود را پيگيري كردند.
              هر بازيكني كه تمرين را اشتباه انجام مي داد از سوي قلعه نويي به انجام دراز و نشست جريمه مي شد.
              واعظ آشتياني در 30 دقيقه مانده به پايان تمرين در دستگردي حاضر شد و تمرين را از نزديك تماشا كرد
              although i dont approve wat the fans are doing, i feel for them
              i think arash borhani deserved to atleast be called up to TM camp and maybe then get striked off??
              although rafkhaei has been doing well, and khalatbari too, but borhani has been doing on good form as well and besides, rafkhaei is so physically weak everytime he plays for TM, he is just pushed around so easily by the opponents defense.
              borhani is faster, stronger and more experienced than rafkhaei, inspite of still being young!


              as for koushki, bayat and nadali training under doctor norouzi, its great. i cant wait to see saeed bayat on form again. he is a real fighter on the pitch and runs and tackles like crazy. he has good shots on him too. can be a good prospect for esteghlal.


              about yavarzadeh, i have never been his fan, cos i think he is over rated, but maybe he has become a better player now or maybe ghalenoi will extract the best out of him, but i really hope he just trains with our team and doesnt sign with us, because i dont want our team to give up a spot in the squad that easily considering the fact that we might get enayati or another forward from outside and we will need a slot for him as well.
              i did rather have bao in the team next season.
              Originally posted by siavasharian
              ESTEGHLAL:

              بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
              بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                so is jabbaris injury serious or not??
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                  Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post

                  about yavarzadeh, i have never been his fan, cos i think he is over rated, .
                  Who is Yavar Zadeh?
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                    Originally posted by Payam_S View Post
                    Who is Yavar Zadeh?
                    He's a quite young player who used to play for Esteghlal a couple of years ago. He used to be a promising player, and even played for TM Omid.

                    He's left footed and plays on the left wing. He used to be known for his actions down the flank and his crosses, but frankly I didn't see much from all that in the matches I've seen from him in SS.

                    After SS he moved to Estil Azin and apparently he's now training with SS again.

                    Personally I'm not really so fond of him, but he's still young and could improve.
                    Persian Pride running through my veins!

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                      Thanks.
                      I'm sue he's showed up since 3,4 years, that's why i dont know him.
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                        Amin he is not SO young anymore, he is around 25




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                          در تمرين امروز استقلال تهران

                          برهاني توسط قلعه نويي جريمه شد

                          خبرگزاري فارس: سرمربي تيم فوتبال استقلال تهران، مهاجم اين تيم را به دليل غيبت در تمرينات جريمه كرد.


                          به گزارش خبرگزاري فارس، تمرين تيم استقلال از ساعت 15 و 30 دقيقه در ورزشگاه دستگردي آغاز شد.
                          * ميلاد نوري، اشكان نامداري، مجتبي جباري و خسرو حيدري از غايبان اين جلسه تمريني بودند.
                          * بيژن كوشكي به دليل مصدوميت به صورت انفرادي تمرين كرد.
                          * اصغر نادعلي و سعيد بيات همراه سايرين به تمرين پرداختند.
                          * امير قلعه نويي به دليل اينكه آرش برهاني در تمرينات غيبت كرده بود، او را جريمه كرد و از او خواست دور زمين بدود.
                          * از اين تمرين 30 تماشاگر استقلالي ديدن كردند.
                          * علي اميري مسئول كميته مالي و اداري باشگاه استقلال در محل تمرين حاضر بود.
                          * تيم استقلال روز جمعه براي بازي خير خواهانه با تيم منتخب كرج ساعت 11 صبح به اين شهرستان مي**رود.
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                            Originally posted by Agha Kasra View Post
                            Ali jaan before I forget, what is the difference (quality) of a coloured MRI and a normal MRI. is it much difference?

                            Kasra Jaan,

                            I am not in the medical field, so my definition is a layman interpretation and can be wrong. Maybe Dr. Doom and others in that field are better people to talk about this. But basically this is what I understand:

                            Grey tone MRI was an improvement than Xray because it can shows soft issues. XRay just shows Bones and harder tissues (a shade of quad muscle for example, but not your ligament or meniscus). But MRI for example can give you an image of the meniscus, cartilages and ligament (stuff inside your knee) or even cancerous tumors (for example a renal cancer tumor). As a side note I had a renal cancer and that is how I know this. But in order to differentiate between meniscus, bone, cartilages MRI usually uses different grey shades (so basically it is like an XRay who happens to show more ligament,etc.).
                            Now colored MRI uses different color to differentiate between say meniscus or cartilage for example or ligaments (there are 4 different ligaments for example in the knee).

                            Let's put it this way, it is like the old black and white pictures vs. colored picture, or an old black and white TV vs. color TV. What I am talking about, you are so young that you probably haven't seen a black and white TV in your whole life!!!!, so probably that won't help. Basically one can see more details in a colored MRI. If you recall in my last post, I said, MRI's tend to be inconclusive in the past (they didn't' show for example if ligament is torn or stretched or if it is stretched how bad). With color I assume a Dr. can see more details and have better diagnoses (and less forced to do a knee surgery to see the inside of the knee).

                            Hope this helps.

                            P.S. Even if you have a stretched ligament, as a pro that is a big deal, because a stretched ligament will eventually lead to meniscus and cartilage damage and eventually knee swellings, pain etc.
                            "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
                            Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



                            Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
                            Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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                              Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                              hassan jan, although i wouldnt mind giving it a try, i am quite definite, i personally wouldnt like the idea of janvario playing the whole left flank, up and down and restricting himself to only 1 side.
                              i dont think it will work.
                              he is neither a winger to be able to handle a whole flank and at the same time (his defensive qualities arent good enough for a flank player, nor are manei's btw), we are gonna limit his capabilities to just one side of the game while janvario is clearly a player who likes to be free and float around the midfield, supporting his team mates and confusing the opponents defense.

                              i think after beygzadeh and manei who were both given a chance to play on our left flank with this good team, its amir abadi's turn now.
                              Like I said yashar jan, I know that ideally, juanario needs to be free on the field, but given Ghalenoei's alleged grudge against Amirabadi, and Maneyi's terrible performance... we could give it a try for at least one half.

                              Now offensively, there's no question that it would work, but defensively, as you said, there might be problems. I've seen some brilliant tackles in his game so far, now tackling alone is obviously not enough to go on a flank, but he might be able to handle it, and if he's not doing well, we can easily replace him with amirabadi or beygzadeh.

                              GN can even try it in the practices

                              and I agree with the Amirabadi issue. He needs to get his chance again, especially after his impressive performances in the first few weeks.

                              We thank and support Mr. Kamran Delan for many years of dedication and service to the Iranian Football Community.

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