Maldives - Iran

[maij]

At lease CQ didn't play banned players to lose the match 3-0 like with U-23.

Actually let's suggest a decent starting line up for CQ, we have not done that for a while. I am sure one of his staff members will eventually see it and maybe they get an idea to improve things. We can't expect CQ to know all the Iranian players really well at this point.

Hmmmmm.... Paradigm Aziz , you must have had a few taquillas while writing this post. How on earth can he field an illigible player like the U23 team , while this was only the second match in the competition ?


Saying that , let us remind him that Karim Ansarifard is suspended for the next match.....just in case ...

[Hadi]

i already voiced my views in the general forum

http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96978&page=3

Basically it is very simple: our players are mediocre.

Once we had Mahdavikia as a right winger. Now we have Heydari, the most mediocre player I have ever seen

Once we had Karim Bagheri as DM, now we have Zare. Slow feet and slow brain.

Once we had Daie and Azizi getting goals. Now we have Norozi

The only above average player we have in our team is Khalatbari and even does not have a 'professional' mentality in his game.

I have no solution to offer because it is unlikely we can find much better players in our league.

[Hajagha]

1- I really dont understand why you think I'm asking for changing CQ. surely ppl can criticize decisions they dont agree with and still want him at the helm.

2- secondly, why do you (and some others) immediately bring up qualifications and this or that as soon as someone criticizes a particular issue?
as if coaches are not human and therefore bereft of mistakes


I'm in fact quite happy we got such a coach and still have high hopes for the team and its future.
but that doesnt mean I'm going to close my eyes to discrepancies and errors in judgment or at least matters that I have issue with (thankfully
many ppl have observed and mentioned these issues as well)

Let me understand your message here:

You think that if you were the coach or coach advisor, you would make some other decisions that improve the performance of this team, right? Wrong aziz jan, maybe it's time to think we are not that good we think we are.

We have been witnessing so many coaches coming and going with so many different tactics, strategies, formations and players and we are yet to witness a decent improvement.

As I mentioned in my original post. It's impossible to fix a trouble when you have too many variables. So, you need to eliminate the variables in trouble shooting. IFF, for once, did an excellent job and brought a dream-come-true coach to Iran. If you can't shout this door (looking for coach's fault) once for ever and look elsewhere, you may be part of the problem and not the solution yourself.

mmmm, I would put my time/energy some where else to find the problem. You keep analyzing coaches post in post out. I guess it's time to think this coach is good enough to not question his decisions what so ever, and start digging elsewhere.

Let's start with these:

- Lack of simple passing and techniques.

- Lack of professionalism.

- Lack of fast, logic and simple thinking.

- Lack of listening to the coach.

- Lack of decent good player.

You don't want to solve these problems at TM level, do you?

The fastest solution: Import 18 Brazilians/Argentinians/Spaniards/Portuguese. Then put CQ at the top of these coaches, you will see the improvement right away.

BTW, congratulations, so many people as observant as you are now. They can spot ManU and Real coach deficiency.


Cheers,

[Hajagha]

i already voiced my views in the general forum

http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96978&page=3

Basically it is very simple: our players are mediocre.

Once we had Mahdavikia as a right winger. Now we have Heydari, the most mediocre player I have ever seen

Once we had Karim Bagheri as DM, now we have Zare. Slow feet and slow brain.

Once we had Daie and Azizi getting goals. Now we have Norozi

The only above average player we have in our team is Khalatbari and even does not have a 'professional' mentality in his game.

I have no solution to offer because it is unlikely we can find much better players in our league.

Sweet post.

[Doctor DOOM]

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As I mentioned in my original post. It's impossible to fix a trouble when you have too many variables. So, you need to eliminate the variables in trouble shooting. IFF, for once, did an excellent job and brought a dream-come-true coach to Iran. If you can't shout this door ..........


mmmm, I would put my time/energy some where else to find the problem. You keep analyzing coaches post in post out. .............




Let's start with these:

- Lack of simple passing and techniques.

- Lack of professionalism.

- Lack of fast, logic and simple thinking.

- Lack of listening to the coach.

- Lack of decent good player.

You don't want to solve these problems at TM level, do you?

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Cheers,

with due respect reza jan,

1- correct. if you have too many variables, lets make sure we remove as many as possible within our capacity. and one of them is picking the right players for a particular game. the other is picking the right subs (including timing of subs). another is picking the right formation & tactics/game-plan for a particular game.

2- No. I have been posting my observations on a GAME, be it the players or instances or formation or subs or ... . and yes, coaches' decisions is included in them.
I dont consider my observations as "technical analysis". they're what they are: mere observations and takes from a game.

3- again, you are correct in enumerating some of the ills of our football and players and ... . but going back to my first point here, some of these things will not change or wont change in short term (until we get a proper set up for our football from grass roots). but there are matters that CAN BE changed in short term.

for example, it takes time to teach a gifted player who's used to do a certain thing for years to change it and behave differently. or a player's stamina or another's selfish behavior, or ... . we must keep at it enough number of times till they get it.
but picking X instead of Y can be done instantaneously. recognizing X's poor performance is done instantaneously. same with a lot of coaching decisions that can be done instantaneously.





anyway, ghasem hadadifar is my "new mobaali" (martin will understand this so well . I just heard him utter a massive sigh of relief ... all the way across the atlantic ocean ) and as long as CQ picks him (so long as ghasem keeps his shape and form), he'll be in my good books and he (or his fans) need not worry . this is just to let you all know of my intentions.

[Hajagha]

^

I would close the section "Team Melli" and "Team Melli Caoch" for good for now including subbing, formation, strategy, ...

From what I understand, we should have had better performance with a team in second devision without any coach than what we had.

For god sake, "Ali-Abad Katol" has more population and better weather to play soccer than Maldives. It's insult to analyze such a game.

Please...

Cheers,

[Doctor DOOM]

i already voiced my views in the general forum

http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96978&page=3

Basically it is very simple: our players are mediocre.

Once we had Mahdavikia as a right winger. Now we have Heydari, the most mediocre player I have ever seen

Once we had Karim Bagheri as DM, now we have Zare. Slow feet and slow brain.

Once we had Daie and Azizi getting goals. Now we have Norozi

The only above average player we have in our team is Khalatbari and even does not have a 'professional' mentality in his game.

I have no solution to offer because it is unlikely we can find much better players in our league.

1- I wouldnt call heidari mediocre. coz he's shown some brilliant stuff in recent years and we know he's capable of much more. but I'd call him inconsistent, especially in the past year.



2- I wouldnt exactly say hadi nowroozi is our answer to daei or azizi of 95-96 era. he's hardly anyone's answer to anything as we have plenty of much more capable and talented strikers even today.
for example, I'd put khalatbari exactly where azizi was at his prime. he's pretty much in the same mold; explosive, extremely skillful with the ball, quick footed, great in making spaces for himself and scores some goals as well. the only thing is he is a bit more selfish than azizi and if he passes a bit more (which he has done on numerous occasions), then he's the perfect person for the assisting striker on TM's roster.

but he needs his own daei. it is this daei character that we're struggling to find. ansarifard promised a lot, but recently he's failed to live up to his own potential (let alone daei's). that's why I recommend using reza nowroozi. at least in club games he's shown extremely versatile and is in top goal scoring form and he can score through many routes. I'd say almost the perfect partner to khalatbari. if only CQ gives him a few games
Oladi is another candidate for this spot. a khalatbari-oladi duo is definitely worth a couple of games' try.

[Hadi]

tend to disagree about Heydari.

Heydari is one of those players who shines in IPL, but can't make it on international level

[Nokhodi]

tend to disagree about Heydari.

Heydari is one of those players who shines in IPL, but can't make it on international level

Bingo. He has alot of fan support though.
As I've said before he's simply too slow for international football. And his crosses simply become average in international play.

[maij]

This Khosrow Heydari makes an interesting case study. Let me start by saying that I am not exactly impressed by him. His biggest problem , which interestingly is supposedly his best strength , is his crossing. Majority of his crosses are either low or long. Only a small percentage of his crossings reaches the target. To put it plainly , his crossings are mostly awful.

He is a slow player with limited maneuver ability. His physique is not that brilliant either and he would lose most of the 50-50 duels. BUT......Sometimes he shines and plays more than a decent game

If Hossein Kaebi would have been more professional and mature , he would had this position for life

[Kaiser Amir]

Heydari's trade-mark move:

1- Run with the ball on the touch-line as if you are racing Usain Bolt.

2- Stop!

3- Turn around yourself two, three times.

4- Give a back pass to someone standing where you were 10 seconds ago, when you started running like a mad-man.

[Hajagha]

Heidari lacks modern thinking of football.

He never pass one touch. He never switch the ball right to left. He never position himself inside to receive the ball. Still, he possess some quality dribbling that can be handy around the penalty box.

To me, he can be a super sub to come at the already tired defenders when he has that extra 1 second.

Cheers,

[Hadi]

Kaiser nailed it.

those are the only moves Heydari can do.

the guy is really trying hard but he simply isn't good enough

[Doctor DOOM]

Heydari's trade-mark move:

1- Run with the ball on the touch-line as if you are racing Usain Bolt.

2- Stop!

3- Turn around yourself two, three times.

4- Give a back pass to someone standing where you were 10 seconds ago, when you started running like a mad-man.

lol . unfair, but funny.

he also does other things like cutting inside (or dribbling his marker in front of him) therefore, not only getting past his marker, moving towards the box, it opens the space for a team mate to come from behind to occupy the flank, to do one of the following:
A) that a pass to this fellow, would give him ample time to cross (since haidari has pulled the defender away from that zone)
or
B) heidari carries the ball to pass laterally or through to a forward

and if he works on his shooting ability, by doing the above, he's put himself in good shooting positions before. but he just cant shoot straight to save his life!!!!

and while his crosses havent been great in recent months, I clarly remember a year or so ago, his crossing were extremely good with good height and pace to it. so it's not as if he "cant" do it. he just has to get back to his old techniques.


he also isnt too bad in defending when compared to kaabi. unless we compare him with someone of a larger stature, who CAN attack and cross as well as him.
do we have anyone? perhaps zob ahan's Hosseini, who's a great goal scorer too. that's all I can think of at the moment

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mind you all, the above is despite what I feel about him & his behavior at the moment, which is like a "money-minded whore" (just like rahmati and even GN). I'm so amazed at these idiots' stupidity in leaving sepahan in the middle of their bright ACL campaign only for a few millions more elsewhere!

I mean how small and pitiful their thinking process is that getting 20-30 million tooman more (mere $20-30 K), they abandon a great chance to play in the freaking FINAL of the ACL and actually stand a good chance of winning it finally (which would earn these money-minded whores even more money than their lousy transfers all put together)!!!!!

Given
1- the form sepahan has been in ACL
2- and al saad being their quarterfinal opponents
3- and the promise of at least ONE IRANIAN club in the final (both sepahan's and zob's fixtures' winners meet in the semis)
... I think it is sheer stupidity and small mindedness to opt out of this situation for 20-30 million tooman!


I even think saaket's proposal of releasing heidari by mid-season would have been fine. what, did he have ants in his pants that he JUST HAD TO get out of isfahan? idiot

[BacheLot]

Heydari's trade-mark move:
1- Run with the ball on the touch-line as if you are racing Usain Bolt.
2- Stop!
3- Turn around yourself two, three times.
4- Give a back pass to someone standing where you were 10 seconds ago, when you started running like a mad-man.

Lmao..! Funny shitt & kinda true..! But lil unfair ..!
What u described above is one of his most annoying traits..! Well that & his insistence on sending Aimless crosses Every freaking time he gets by his marker..!
He does very well to get by his marker but then instead of cutting in the box to wreak havoc & lay a back pass, or take a crack @ goal, he stops & let's the marker catch up then do it again or send an Aimless cross in the box hoping for the best ..!
He certainly needs to add more variations to his offensive game..! His defending is decent, average but like DD said his consistency is lacking big time..!
Overall I think Maj's take on him was the fairest, but i dont think his crossing skills is bad at all, it's just that it's often aimless & misses targets..! Need to work on accuracy by picking his head up prior to crossing & spotting targets but his crossing technic is exceptional compared to Kaebi & many others who played there before..!
Ps
Is Kaebi still in a funk..? I miss that guy badly..! I hate to give up on that much potential & experience @ such a young age( relatively..!)