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  • Doctor DOOM
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    great post by martin.

    on goal 1, isnt this ENOUGH reason not to persist with the second def mid, whose supposed inclusion is to gain the upper hand in the middle, disrupt the opposition's moves and bolster the middle of our defense?

    doesnt this defeat the purpose of using 2 def mids?
    and this isnt the first time such things happen.
    says a lot about using this crummy formation.

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    very correct on goal 2 also.
    apart from noone covering the post ... , I must remind everyone we had very similar occasions until this goal also, where our defenders and def-mids fail to repel the ball off the corners.
    in each of the saudi corners ( except maybe 1 ... or I may be mistaken about this one too ) the saudi attackers got to the ball first and on many occasions, had a FREE header, with hardly anyone challenging or marking them!!

    sadly, this has happened not only in this game, but in previous games ALSO! as well as our ACL club games against saudi opposition where the very same "free header off a corner/set piece" has resulted in goals or danger.

    now, when our esteemed and "intelligent" staff sees these ( I assume they have eyes to note such things ), what is to be their duty?
    simply sit there and pray?
    get fat and increase girth?
    go for paid vacations and get free pass here & there?


    or perhaps take NOTE of such matters that simple fans like me ( dont want to say "us" coz I dont want ppl saying I "think I represent a mass" ) have picked up and have discussed it?
    in fact during the game everytime they had a corner, I told Ala, sitting beside me, these free headers are too dangerous to ignore and we'll get hurt.
    lo & behold, we concede off one of them!


    so aside from free travel, isnt it the job of these guys to remind and KEEP REMINDING/WARNING our defenders & def-mids to MARK A GUY & STICK TO HIM?

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  • Martin-Reza
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    ^ lol, yeah, we generally are really bad in counter attacking

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  • Adesor Vafaseya
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    Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
    Well, some German Bundesliga coaches claim that throughout a season they maybe concede 2 or 3 goals because of not positioning a player at the far post, but in the same season their teams score 5 or 6 goals thanks to the additional player helping with counter attacks upfront.

    So it seems a subjective but legitimate decision, especially when the score is 1-1 at home.

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  • Martin-Reza
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    Originally posted by Adesor Vafaseya View Post
    In todays football, really both 1st and 2nd posts have to be positioned with players.. too much risk.... and we also saw the game of today.
    Well, some German Bundesliga coaches claim that throughout a season they maybe concede 2 or 3 goals because of not positioning a player at the far post, but in the same season their teams score 5 or 6 goals thanks to the additional player helping with counter attacks upfront.

    So it seems a subjective but legitimate decision, especially when the score is 1-1 at home.

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  • Adesor Vafaseya
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    Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post

    Then there is noone at the long post. There doesn't have to be somebody. Many coaches prefer to have an additional player upfront for counters and think that gives more goals to his team than it concedes by not having someone at the far post. Wanting to win at home is justification for such a decision, still it was very unfortunate and decisive.

    But how noone is directly responsible for an opponent at the penalty spot during a corner is an absolut mystery to me!

    In todays football, really both 1st and 2nd posts have to be positioned with players.. too much risk.... and we also saw the game of today........ sadly.

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  • mehdy
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    I didn't watch that Nekounam mark and care strikers.

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  • Martin-Reza
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    The goals conceded

    First goalSecond goal

    Even the corner should happen as Aghili had to block a good chance.

    But what happens then is very disturbing. Watch the clips or the tape. Noone is marking the big guy Al Harbi at all. The cross goes straight at him. Nekounam waits behind him. Ashjari, not famous for his heading abilities, tries to challenge him unsuccessfully and loses the duel.

    Then there is noone at the long post. There doesn't have to be somebody. Many coaches prefer to have an additional player upfront for counters and think that gives more goals to his team than it concedes by not having someone at the far post. Wanting to win at home is justification for such a decision, still it was very unfortunate and decisive.

    But how noone is directly responsible for an opponent at the penalty spot during a corner is an absolut mystery to me!

    Mistakes by: Nekounam, Ashjari, Daei

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