"personal feelings" still rule at TM !!!

[yashar_fasihnia]

Still doesn't make sense. If he wanted to test them both, why he didn't invite Ahmadi in the first place? Only after Mirza got injured he wanted to test Ahmadi? Plus this late? Does this mean Rahmati isn't the first keeper? Even if that is the case, isn't this too late?
GN made the same mistake that invited gazillions of new players and keep testing. The team that played agaisnt Mexico and the team that palyed in AFC championship ver different teams. Point is, it is good to test players, but less than a month to play your first qaulification game probably against your most strong opponents and still experimenting?
During Branko era mostly the same players were invited (95%), and starting line up for Iran wasnt' a mystery to us (fans) or our opponents.
During GN and Daie, it seems TM has become a transition place, 100s of players keep getting invited, although GN at the end pretty much played the same Branko era team. We see how Daie does.

every team has 3 GKs in its final squad.
the way i see it, mehdy rahmati is our fixed number 1.
so he is fixed.

the other 2 spots are between vaezi, mirzapour and talebloo (im guessing this from the previous camps and previous squads daei has called up for various training camps)

now vaezi is injured (or just returning from injury??), that leaves mirzapour and talebloo battling for second and third position GK in the final squad.
so daei was using this tournament to test them and finalize this situation and during this test mirzapour also got injured.

so now that both vaezi and mirzapour are injured, we have rahmati and talebloo. so we need a 3rd GK dont we?? here is when daei has to invite another GK now that mirzapour got injured during the WAFF games. so rahman ahmadi comes and is tried in 1 game to give him a chance and see if can seal his place in the squad or not?? because rahmati has been tested many times previously in TM games and talebloo played in 3 games this WAFF tournament! so why not give 1 game to ahmadi and try him out??

[pajamNL]

Being selected for this squad isn't quite an honor nor is being dropped from this squad a sign for having lost Daei's trust. The absence of fixed players like Hosseini (dammit he's from Saipa), Rahmati, Zare , Kaebi and others shows that Daei wanted an experimental squad.

Football isn't nuclear physics, but still complex enough that pros are needed for major decisions. Other than nuclear physics many, who don't fully understand it, believe they do like the pros. And then of course different pros will also not always make the same decisions.

Anyway, in my eyes personal feelings in TM are not the problems but personal feelings and maybe lack of understanding in Latveria might be...

well putted in

[Ali Chicago]

regarding the talebloo -ahmadi issue, i think he wanted to test both of them and give both of them play time.
just like he invited mirzapour and talebloo in the beginning and gave both of them play time.
i think he was testing them all..

Still doesn't make sense. If he wanted to test them both, why he didn't invite Ahmadi in the first place? Only after Mirza got injured he wanted to test Ahmadi? Plus this late? Does this mean Rahmati isn't the first keeper? Even if that is the case, isn't this too late?

GN made the same mistake that invited gazillions of new players and keep testing. The team that played agaisnt Mexico and the team that palyed in AFC championship ver different teams. Point is, it is good to test players, but less than a month to play your first qaulification game probably against your most strong opponents and still experimenting?


During Branko era mostly the same players were invited (95%), and starting line up for Iran wasnt' a mystery to us (fans) or our opponents.

During GN and Daie, it seems TM has become a transition place, 100s of players keep getting invited, although GN at the end pretty much played the same Branko era team. We see how Daie does.

[zzgloo]

As I said in the other thread....we, may be, are waisting too much time to find " better Bench players " .....
Our starters need to be settled & starting to play with each other...
It will be a major mistake ,to spend more time, trying to find more new players now ! ...........
There is so little time left, and we still do not know who our starters are,let alone them, played in any friendlies together..............
There is a reason, we always say, " we did not have enough time "....because, we do not do what we should, in, the time given !

[Doctor DOOM]

only in Iran would you see a national team having 4-5 players from the absolute BOTTOM-placed team in the league !!! .... while many of the top ranked ones have none !

only in Iran !

[yashar_fasihnia]

He got rid of anyone who has any kind of background and seniorty in the team Melli. Bunch of new comers dont' have the ability to create Hasheiyeh.
I can't beleive he palyed Rahman Ahmadi in this game. It doesn't seem logical that Rahman Ahmadi is being prefered over Taleblou. If he beleived Ahmadi is better than Talebloue (and he is entitled to think so), then he should have invited Ahmadi and not Talebloo. or invite Talbeloo as third goalie.
Then again, descisions by Mr. Daie overall to me (again to me which really doesn't matter) are ver questionable. He let players start in the TM that are on the bench in their own team and now Ahmadi.
Just finished watching the Iran Jordan game. Team didn't play well at all, which doesn't matter really, since this team isn't the team that will play in WC qualification. I am really worried.

regarding the talebloo -ahmadi issue, i think he wanted to test both of them and give both of them play time.
just like he invited mirzapour and talebloo in the beginning and gave both of them play time.

i think he was testing them all..

[Doctor DOOM]

there's this insistence that he is compelled to play saipa players ... and not just one or two only !
another personal issue !

[Ali Chicago]

As a TM fan,who believes Daei has been a wrong choice,and unqualified...........
I must admit , many things that he has done right !
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1- By, himself being the center of the media attention...he has created a camp without any hashieh around players!
...

He got rid of anyone who has any kind of background and seniorty in the team Melli. Bunch of new comers dont' have the ability to create Hasheiyeh.

I can't beleive he palyed Rahman Ahmadi in this game. It doesn't seem logical that Rahman Ahmadi is being prefered over Taleblou. If he beleived Ahmadi is better than Talebloue (and he is entitled to think so), then he should have invited Ahmadi and not Talebloo. or invite Talbeloo as third goalie.

Then again, descisions by Mr. Daie overall to me (again to me which really doesn't matter) are ver questionable. He let players start in the TM that are on the bench in their own team and now Ahmadi.

Just finished watching the Iran Jordan game. Team didn't play well at all, which doesn't matter really, since this team isn't the team that will play in WC qualification. I am really worried.

[Doctor DOOM]

Going through the WAFF games and reflecting on the WCQ's I discovered another thing. First of all, MANY things are "personal" with Daei with respect to TM.

I feel he is trying to prove something ... which by itself isnt that bad. But it shd not get in the way of the TEAM's prospects.

I said with Daei many things are personal becoz when I took a step further back and looked at DAEI'S TEAMS, I noticed a stark similarity between his teams ( selections ) and HIS own characteristics as a player.

Daei was never a highly skillful and fancy football player. never at any point in his career. what he achieved ( and he achieved a lot ) was due to sheer determination and doggedly hard work. as some english may say; very work-man like.
He didnt have ball skills where he could dribble and dispose of batches of opponents.
he wasnt all that great a passer either ... till late in his career anyway, when he actually improved a lot ..... most probably due to hard work and practice, I'm sure.
He was just a bundle of motivation, determination and disciplined hard work. and that's what he looks for and wants in his TEAMS.

We dont see many ( or any ) specialists or skillful players in his selections and choices. Players like karimi, mobaali, kolahkaj, ... in his choices. Shojaei is the SOLE abberration in this rule. But you can find countless players who are mere WORK-HORSES... much like him. almost everyone else is.

what clinched it for me was during the jordan game and how the whole team looked to be with absolutely NO IMAGINATION and creativity , especially in the middle.
yes, in waff, they passed better than before. but I doubt anyone can deny the opponents' utter weakness has a lot to do with it. But in none of the games did we see 'CREATIVITY & IMAGINATION' in the team's moves!

That's why I think this is yet another personal matter with daei and he's trying to make a point for the "work-horses". And that's why I see it a shame, becoz if we add our more skillful and specialist players to this bunch, we can achieve much MUCH MORE than what is this team's present capacity.



remember, we have a phenomenon in Iran where we have houses built by contractors as opposed to architects. both can build houses. but while the contractor's house will be very "functional", it wont be as esthetic and overall scientific ...., the architect's will be far more esthetic, scientific and wholly a more winning choice.

Now, which one of you likes to have his house built by a contractor and not an architect?

[zzgloo]

As a TM fan,who believes Daei has been a wrong choice,and unqualified...........
I must admit , many things that he has done right !
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1- By, himself being the center of the media attention...he has created a camp without any hashieh around players!

2-He has given chances to new players, more than any TM coach in our history.

3-He, has brought us up to here.

4-He is handling the media very well...how ever, in a antagonistic way.

5-He has created an atmospher ,in which players will try thier best.

6-He is very right,to trying to do away from some over estimated legioners, and he will eventualy bring aboard the good legioners,after trying to see what els is there.

[Martin-Reza]

As if it would be an advantage to get matches postponed. You lose the rhythm and have the replay the match laster (when for Saipa there also will be ACL!) whereas Estghlal, without 2 players, faces Pegah without there best striker. Opposite to SS the likes of Pegah can't compensate such an absence.

Anyway, Daei is cool, because he simply chooses the players he thinks suit best, other people then start to create conspiracies around this decisions. I'm glad Daei didn't return to the pre-Croat times when coaches selected the same number of PP and SS players just in order to avoid critisiscm.

[kaz]

Actually Daei is doing PP a favour allowing the players to stay with the club instead of playing in a rather meaningless tourney with a C-selection. So this "conspiracy" doesn't make much sense.

You're right, especially if he is going to draw the line right before the requisite 3 to get the match postponed.

Daei is certainly very stubborn and his player selections are personal. No doubt about it. There is a reason why GN came out with what he said asking "why is it that Saipa and Sepahan got enough players invited to postpone their matches?" and then he said it was "mashkook" that Daei's side and Firat (his former assistant) who coaches Sepahan got their matches postponed.

So, clear as day for me with his exlcusions of some players and inclusion of others that things are at a poor state.

HOWEVER, the light at the end of the tunnel seems to be that he is making a big go at trying some youth and getting new names in there and that is a plus.

[Ali Chicago]

A few months ago, Feb 08, Saipa Company's board of directors (the car manufacturing Company not their football club) elected the 28 years old Mehrdad Bazrpash as the new CEO of the company.
I think the recent Saipa's investment in football (signing expensive players and TM's sponsorship) is a direct result of his appointment. Here is an article about him:
http://www.aftabnews.ir/vdcb05brhwbas.html

Agha Majid (Maij), as you can see it is not SS or PP that is being run by the government.

[TM-Fan]

in a seemingly un-related news:

سايپا، اسپانسر تيم ملى
ايران ورزشى - شركت سايپا به عنوان حامى مالى تيم ملى فوتبال ايران انتخاب شد.قرار است امروز در مراسمى رسمى اسپانسر تيم هاى ملى فوتبال كشورمان معرفى شود. به گفته يك منبع موثق در فدراسيون فوتبال، شركت سايپا به عنوان حامى مالى تيم ملى برگزيده شده است و قرار است اين شركت خودروساز مبلغى در حدود ۵ ميليارد تومان به تيم هاى ملى فوتبال ايران كمك كند. از نكات جالب اين حمايت مى توان به حضور على دايى در هيات مديره باشگاه سايپا و رأس كادر فنى تيم ملى اشاره كرد. ظاهرا پس از انتخاب دايى به عنوان سرمربى تيم ملى، مسؤولان شركت سايپا به چنين فكرى افتادند كه اسپانسر تيم هاى ملى فوتبال ايران شوند

A few months ago, Feb 08, Saipa Company's board of directors (the car manufacturing Company not their football club) elected the 28 years old Mehrdad Bazrpash as the new CEO of the company.

I think the recent Saipa's investment in football (signing expensive players and TM's sponsorship) is a direct result of his appointment. Here is an article about him:

http://www.aftabnews.ir/vdcb05brhwbas.html

[BehzadB]

the reason I started the thread was , AS STATED EARLIER, the sudden drop of all pp players immediately after ghotbi's remarks.

what PP players have been dropped?
and what comment by ghotbi?