TM in WC,South Africa, with Afshin Ghotbi !!

[Amin_]

Qn had a much weaker squad when he took over SS and managed to become runners up (lost the championship on the last day) and won the league the year after, and as we saw, he still wasn't completely ready to take over TM.

Even if Qotbi manages to win the title with this strong squad, he still got a long way to go to take over such a hard and important task.

I strongly believe that if Qn was given this year's SS squad, that he would've won the league again (or atleast would compete as one of the main contenders), so winning the league doesn't indicate much.


Winning the IPL title goes over 34 games, a whole season which leaves (relatively lots of) space for errors, which don't need to be vital necessarely; guiding TM to the WC and eventually through the WC doesn't leave space for such (small) errors, as even 1 loss, and 1 wrongly made tactiqual mistake/substitution can result in a disqualification.

Qotbi is a good coach, but still has a long way to go to be able to take over TM during WCQ/WC imo.

[BehzadB]

LOOLLL

none of those are going to be ready to work under any other one!

but you can't blame me for trying....

[Doctor DOOM]

LOOLLL

none of those are going to be ready to work under any other one!
karimi and cheraghpoor have massive egos.
shah-gholam doesnt look like it either.
ghotbi is still unknown to me but knowing he is iranian, tells me he wont be ready either !

[BehzadB]

I absolutely agree.
but not as the head coach.
more, as a supporting role like assistant coach.

how about this:

Firouz karimi, Ghotbi, cheraghpour and shah gholam in that order

and Mohases as Sarparast..

[Doctor DOOM]

I think regardless of what PP does , Our national team can benefit from this uniquely Iranian coach, Afshin Ghotbi..

I absolutely agree.
but not as the head coach.
more, as a supporting role like assistant coach.

[BehzadB]

IFF has never defined a set of qualifications for selecting a coach for TM.. either hired a foreign coach (based on the budget they had for it).. or the head of IFF gave the job to a friend of his, like in QN's case or Heshmat Mohajerani's case, or MK's case..

Resume means nothing,
Education means crap,
International Experience.. well, let's not even go there ..


I think regardless of what PP does , Our national team can benefit from this uniquely Iranian coach, Afshin Ghotbi..

[khabalood]

We need an experienced coach. Despite Ghotbi's good results so far, at the world cup he will not be up to standard against other world class coaches.

[Doctor DOOM]

after dropping points in 2 consecutive games, and being unable to hold onto their lead ( 3-1 against fajr, for example ), shall we talk about ghotbi and WC anytime soon?

and even now, I still say hanooz jaye seft nashaashideh !
there are games against sepahan, ss , ss-ahvaz, saipa, ... left .

morale of the story: lets not have knee jerk reactions to a couple of game wins ( just like azizi's case last year , after 3 wins !!! ).

[kaz]

Too quick in making heroes and even quicker at making villains. Let's give it some time. Nothing has been proven yet.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

I like him but I say lets see how he performes as head-coach at PP before I make up my mind. Its a big difference between being the head-coach and being an assistant coach. so far he is doing well at PP but to be honest PP has not realy being tested.. i.e. injuries, suspensions etc.. hence after a full season we know the man's qualities.... so lets lie back and watch him

hope he does well

[yashar_fasihnia]

perspolis team and squad is too strong that even hamid estilli can win the league with it.
the team is complete, matured with a mixture of experienced leaders and youth blood in them, and doesnt have any voids!
their only vulnerable position is their LB and so far pejamn nouri has been doing great. however once injuries and suspensions start kicking in, things might get a bit difficult for filling up that spot..

however, afshin ghotbi's resume, past experience and professional attitude shouldnt be ignored and for sure, he can help us in TM someway or the other. its not like we have a queue of great coaches waiting for us,, so we should make the maximum use of every small advantage that we have in any way or form..

[Paradigm]

He used to be very nice player, in california,and later for the love of the game,tried coaching at the university level......by anayling games and strategies....he set high gols for himself.........
he started by, learning from the big vetrans of the game, and sacrifised his USA comfort, and applied for jobs , football related over seas............
After being assistant, to high profile European coaches,and attending the biggest school, that is world cup,.....the next logical step ,and the final step,would have been to coach for a team in the world Cup !!!............so,the most likely country to give him such oppurtunity would have been Iran.................But, in order to complete his resume, he first needed to have head coaching experince.....and where els,other than Iran....
and where els, better than thier best, highly talented team ( perspolise ), as he would not had to start from scratch, and with some minimal ajustement, could succeed.................
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Now, in this year's league.....The Ali daei, and Azizi coached games, are out of it, as they do not have the neccesary resiliency for the job......and by looking at the perspolise Dominant game in Mashhad,against abumoslem, as well as three consecative starting wins..............perspolise looks very much capeble of winning it all by the end of the season !!.............
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So what happeneds, when by the end of the season, ....
You have in one hand, Ghalenoee,whom lets say, not much appreciated, and on the other hand...we will have a, coach.....who has coached in multyple World Cups, and has Experince playing all asian teams for 10 years......and happeneds to be the champion of Iranian domestic league, on his first try .
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It will be very tough for IFF, not to select Ghotbi,for TM, ..specialy,with Dominant fans of perspolise...............

I am very optimistic about Ghotbi's coaching potentials.... Let's give him the time and see what he does with Persepolis this season. Then we'll go from there.

[zzgloo]

So let's wait he wins the IPL title first. 31 more games left a lot can happen.
As Payman said, I think we shouldn't jump the gun. He only won three games againt teams that aren't power house (this season at least). So I don't understand why all of a sudden Ghotbi becomes the hero and "the man for all the seasons". The guy needs to prove himself before being considered for a national team head coach job.

If he wins the league ( Which I think he will ), two things will be very apparant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

1-Ghotbi is good !

2-The league sucks !

[Ali Chicago]

Ali jaan, I said it before...............Ghotbi's case will be different......he will be a coach who has won the domestic league championship,on his first try, as well as being on coaching staff of teams going to WC for 12 years...as well as knowledge of all asian opponants...and thier view of iranian football........anf general international experince..
As daei's playing time is not considered a credit.

So let's wait he wins the IPL title first. 31 more games left a lot can happen.
As Payman said, I think we shouldn't jump the gun. He only won three games againt teams that aren't power house (this season at least). So I don't understand why all of a sudden Ghotbi becomes the hero and "the man for all the seasons". The guy needs to prove himself before being considered for a national team head coach job.

[zzgloo]

Daie won a league title, if we go by that criteria, he can be the head coach right?

Ali jaan, I said it before...............Ghotbi's case will be different......he will be a coach who has won the domestic league championship,on his first try, as well as being on coaching staff of teams going to WC for 12 years...as well as knowledge of all asian opponants...and thier view of iranian football........anf general international experince..
As daei's playing time is not considered a credit.