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BTW i think it's time for leekens to realize that vertonghen or lombaerts suck as a left-back, pocognoli should definitely start
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yeah could be but why would he be bluffing? I think he doesn't want to play him and is delaying it by telling he's unsure..Originally posted by dcpp View PostEden will play, Leekens is bluffing but it will be hard without Vermaelen and Van Buyten. Simons ham ke soorakhe german midfielders will destroy him.
Indeed V.Buyten is playing good lately and could be a dangerous man in set pieces, Vermaelen is just a class act..
Simons ain't that bad, he's a vacumecleaner hehe.. But if bel. want more football solutions in midfield they should opt for Defour.
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Eden will play, Leekens is bluffing but it will be hard without Vermaelen and Van Buyten. Simons ham ke soorakhe german midfielders will destroy him.Originally posted by Shahin K View PostGermany - Belgium, Belgium without injured Vermaelen (Arsenal), De Camargo (Monchengladbach), suspended V.Buyten (B.Munchen) and most probably Eden Hazard!! eek
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Germany - Belgium, Belgium without injured Vermaelen (Arsenal), De Camargo (Monchengladbach), suspended V.Buyten (B.Munchen) and most probably Eden Hazard!! eek
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Translation please.Originally posted by Aryan.Arvandi View PostSo, soccer team, Ireland need a draw on Tues to reach play offs, of which we've won one (Iran) from 5 (Bel,Holl,Turk,Fra).
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So, soccer team, Ireland need a draw on Tues to reach play offs, of which we've won one (Iran) from 5 (Bel,Holl,Turk,Fra).
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thats a different story and many teams do it and continue to do it even today.Originally posted by KC McElroy View PostThey did it again in 1986, losing intentionally to Denmark so they would get Morocco in the next round instead of Spain.
to lose on purpose to get a weaker opposition is not exactly cheating since ur only deciding ur own fate and nobody else's fate.
it may considered unsportsmanship conduct, or cowardly, but its not cheating. its the teams choice to play in a way to get the easier opponent.
in one of recent euros, i remember holland losing to belarus inorder to reduce its seeding and be placed in POT 2 since POT 1 had teams like austria, switzerland (both hosts) and greece (previous champs) while pot 2 had croatia, italy, and some other strong european teams and obviously its much better to be part of pot 2 and get a pot 1 team rather than be in pot 1 and get a pot 2 team but their ranking was still high enough to get pot 1 and then they got a group with italy, france and one more decent european team landing them in the group of death. they came 1st in that group though.
the austria game is different cos the fate of algeria lied in germany's hand and germany abused it.Last edited by yashar_fasihnia; 10-08-2011, 08:16 AM.
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They did it again in 1986, losing intentionally to Denmark so they would get Morocco in the next round instead of Spain.Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post^
they did that once and they were correctly criticized for it by the whole world. after that, they learnt their lesson and stopped.
overall, belgium is a better team than turkey and germany's only narrow win in this group came against belgium (2-1) but football is a game of moments and circumstances, so u never know.
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that's cheating and teams who do that should be punished!!Originally posted by Nokhodi View PostRead about 1982 World Cup gavbandi between Austria and Germany to stop Algeria from going through.
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they did that once and they were correctly criticized for it by the whole world. after that, they learnt their lesson and stopped.
overall, belgium is a better team than turkey and germany's only narrow win in this group came against belgium (2-1) but football is a game of moments and circumstances, so u never know.
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