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  • EKBATAN
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    Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
    Milan were deducted 15 points, and finished 26 behind inter, so even without the point deduction, inter would have won.
    the ones that were handed to them they would've won if juve and milan hadn't bought refs so that doesn't really matter, in the end the deserving team got the titles

    just cuz a team came 2nd doesnt mean they still would've if the match fixing didnt happen. The whole table would've been different. Also, same time these match fixings were going on, those italian teams like juve and milan still made it far in CL and NONE of the players were put on trial for any of it meaning they werent aware. So its not that they didnt deserve to be up there cuz they still did good in CL which had no match fixing (as far as we know )

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  • EKBATAN
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    Originally posted by 1Heesham1 View Post
    yeh but one match is often not a true reflection of a teams excellence.. thats why there are league championships. Anyway I think you'll that the past 5 years since liverpool -ac theres been an english team in every final and an all-english final and semi-finals. It shows the superiority of the english game against continental leagues.

    in the final but in the last 4 there has always been an italian or spanish team too

    which is why i dont agree with the reasoning cuz u can say the same about the other leagues too, CL performance of ONE team doesnt justify the WHOLE league...look at UEFA league for ex, where are the english teams there?

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  • 1Heesham1
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    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
    They won twice in the past 10 years...one in penalties, the other very controvertial...


    1999-00 Real Madrid
    2000-01 Bayern Munich
    2001-02 Real Madrid
    2002-03 Milan
    2003-04 Porto
    2004-05 Liverpool
    2005-06 Barcelona
    2006-07 Milan
    2007-08 Manchester U
    2008-09 Barcelona
    yeh but one match is often not a true reflection of a teams excellence.. thats why there are league championships. Anyway I think you'll that the past 5 years since liverpool -ac theres been an english team in every final and an all-english final and semi-finals. It shows the superiority of the english game against continental leagues.

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  • chuck bass
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    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
    thats not a fair comparison, 2 of them were handed to them and the 3rd came because JUVE was in serie B and teams like milan and fiorentina were deducted bunch of points...so inter has really only won it the last few years...before that it was early 90s
    anyway, my rating is as follows;
    1) EPL & SERIE A
    2) La Liga
    3) Bundesliga
    4) French league
    Milan were deducted 15 points, and finished 26 behind inter, so even without the point deduction, inter would have won.

    the ones that were handed to them they would've won if juve and milan hadn't bought refs so that doesn't really matter, in the end the deserving team got the titles

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  • EKBATAN
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    Originally posted by elnino99 View Post
    oo really?
    mayeb that's why English clubs have been dominating CL semis in the past 4-5 year
    definitely a decline

    They won twice in the past 10 years...one in penalties, the other very controvertial...


    1999-00 Real Madrid
    2000-01 Bayern Munich
    2001-02 Real Madrid
    2002-03 Milan
    2003-04 Porto
    2004-05 Liverpool
    2005-06 Barcelona
    2006-07 Milan
    2007-08 Manchester U
    2008-09 Barcelona

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  • EKBATAN
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    Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
    ^^^ when was the last time someone won serie a except inter? i think it's been like 6 years if you count in this season too since they have already won

    thats not a fair comparison, 2 of them were handed to them and the 3rd came because JUVE was in serie B and teams like milan and fiorentina were deducted bunch of points...so inter has really only won it the last few years...before that it was early 90s


    anyway, my rating is as follows;

    1) EPL & SERIE A
    2) La Liga
    3) Bundesliga
    4) French league

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  • chuck bass
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    ^^^ when was the last time someone won serie a except inter? i think it's been like 6 years if you count in this season too since they have already won

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  • EKBATAN
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    La Liga only has Real madrid and Barcelona....the rest of the teams are boring to watch, come on....


    EPL; when was the last time a bottom table team beat a top tier? i know it happens but very rare....like someone said when liverpoll can still stay in top 4 after all their injuries and problems and a teenage team like arsenal can be in top spot, then that speaks for itself...

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  • chuck bass
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    Originally posted by Arian View Post
    the majority of the la liga CL wins coming for real madrid with 9 how does that comparison even make sense?
    the fact that you have bastards like perez running the top teams in spain speaks for itself. goes to extreme debt just to bring top players into the team.
    your reasoning is beyond retarded. try again
    is citys owner any better than perez? or chelseas? or even uniteds, who asks his own players if they can borrow him money so he can pay off the clubs debt??

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  • Farhad-7
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    EPL is not as exciting as La Liga. my ass.

    honestly i fall asleep trying to watch Xerex vs Osasuna (even with masoud and nekounam) and I enjoy watching bottom of the table teams Portsmouth vs Wolves x 10 more lol

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  • soheil86
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    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post

    how can it not? they play the same style...yea the players might be from different countries but its the style of play. England hasn't done ANYTHING on the national team stage in decades.....are they still looking for the best coach? They've tried some of the best in the world.
    and even when they won the 66WC, there are many theories that they cheated.

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  • babak_australia
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    Originally posted by shayan20 View Post
    Cl trophies:
    La Liga 12
    EPL and Italy 11

    Plus spanish league is so much more entertaining to watch with lots of attacking play and dominating game play. no other league can match spanish league specially this season the quality is too high, the fact that the top 5 players of the world are in spain speaks for itself.
    Just a question to your obvious bias against the EPL.....

    Where do Fabregas (by far the stand out midfielder in Europe this season, just look at his stats before you reply otherwise), Torres, Lampard, Drogba and Rooney fit into your best in the world?

    You really live a sheltered life if you think the best 5 players in the world are in Spain.

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  • Adesor Vafaseya
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    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
    Overall comparison in history, not whats going on this season....
    English Premier League
    Tier 1 : Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal
    Tier 2: tottenham, aston villa, manchester city
    Serie A
    Tier 1: Juventus, ac milan, inter milan, Roma
    Tier 2: Fiorentina, Genoa, Sampdoria, Lazio, Napoli
    La Liga
    Tier 1: Barcelona, Real Madrid
    Tier 2: Valencia, sevilla, Villareal
    Bundesliga
    Tier 1: Bayern, Bremen, Schalke
    Tier 2: Wolfsburg, dortmund, stuttgart

    In Italy: add in Tier 1: Juventus Adesorus Turini

    In Germany: add in Tier 1 also (hisrorically): Borussia Moenchengladbach (Golden 70ies with hippie hairs)
    in Tier 2: Hamburg SV (early 80ies boombastic and winning European Cup in 1983 versus Juventus Adesorus Turini, Goal by Felix Magath, observed by Adesor Vafaseya's sexy eyes)

    Thank you!

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  • Arian
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    Originally posted by shayan20 View Post
    Cl trophies:
    La Liga 12
    EPL and Italy 11
    the majority of the la liga CL wins coming for real madrid with 9 how does that comparison even make sense?

    Originally posted by shayan20 View Post
    the fact that the top 5 players of the world are in spain speaks for itself.
    the fact that you have bastards like perez running the top teams in spain speaks for itself. goes to extreme debt just to bring top players into the team.

    your reasoning is beyond retarded. try again

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  • PersianMadrid7
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    EPL = best in the world, most exciting, most watchable

    why?

    Any team from the bottom to top can beat each other on any given day. That's what makes it exciting to watch. There is no definite top 4 anymore... Aston villa, tottenham and man city are proving to be as good as the best team this season.

    EPL has definiately not gone down hill, those who say that either don't watch it regularly or just think because Liverpool are playing bad that it must be. The reason why Liverpool and Man Utd aren't playing as well, aside from their own problems is that every other team is more challenging.

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