Iran and Cuba improving sporting ties with Football included

[Rooyintan]

These sporting agreements would be beneficial for both.

Cuba can help Iran with Boxing, Track & Field, Baseball.

Iran is going to help Cuba with Football, Pahlevani and possibly some other sports.

Both are good in Volleyball, Wrestling, Basketball, Martial Arts.

Football: Iran wishes to help Cuba with Football coaching. Cuba wishes for their national team to travel to Tehran and play Team Melli to give their players international experience. I think regular friendly with Cuba will benefit reserve, bench and uncapped players. Also maybe women's team, U23 and youth teams will benefit from regular friendlies too.

[diz]

Second agenda item for idea exchange: how to make cigars and rum

Alcohol-free rum of course

[Leicester City]

First agenda item for idea exchange: how to keep US cars running (Cuba) and US planes flying (Iran) for 50+ years

Second agenda item for idea exchange: how to make cigars and rum

[diz]

First agenda item for idea exchange: how to keep US cars running (Cuba) and US planes flying (Iran) for 50+ years

[Hosseini]

I hope this is a joke….if you talk to any Cuban anywhere (inside our outside of Cuba) they will tell you how terrible life is there. The country has been plagued with poverty and ppl are living in the 1960s still over there without basic every day commodities. There’s a reason they all risk their life on a boat just to get to the US and beg and plead to stay. That country is as messed up as Iran under IR.

Ghermez agha jan,

It's also the result of being under a 60-year medieval blockade. The US holds a grudge since the failed Bay of Pigs invasion and Missile Crisis and since then has decided to hit Cubans with collective punishment. US foreign policy mentality is you either obey or get fcked, those are your options. It's Mafia don politics and cruel

[inarsenewetrust]

Arite my bad then I misunderstood - I do understand their athletes have obstacles similar to ours due to isolation (actually their situation is way worse) but that’s about the beginning and end of benefit of something we can learn from them IMO. All the other stuff about their country mentioned is irrelevant to sporting partnerships. Nothing comes of these agreements anyway….Netherlands and Italy did deals with us and we still haven’t played them 10 years later.

yeah I think these are just PR stunts for whatever asshole is federation at said time.

We need to invest in long term partnerships with neighbors: Turkey, Russia, Armenia, Georgia. If our u23 + U19 + u17 teams played these 4 countries corresponding age groups on a regular basis that would represent a massive partnership in our football and huge benefit for our players. Even if TM had a recurring friendly with these 4 every year wed only need 3-4 more group-dependent friendlies to complete a solid preparation plan in any given WC cycle. And like I said in terms of travel + expenses + visas associated for this stuff the hassle and cost would be next to nothing

[Ghermez Agha]

Again, nowhere in my post did I say cuba is a top place dara jan. I simply said we can learn things from them. Thats it. There are clear sectors they are doing certain things effectively despite obstacles. There are many they are not.

Arite my bad then I misunderstood - I do understand their athletes have obstacles similar to ours due to isolation (actually their situation is way worse) but that’s about the beginning and end of benefit of something we can learn from them IMO. All the other stuff about their country mentioned is irrelevant to sporting partnerships. Nothing comes of these agreements anyway….Netherlands and Italy did deals with us and we still haven’t played them 10 years later.

[inarsenewetrust]

I hope this is a joke….if you talk to any Cuban anywhere (inside our outside of Cuba) they will tell you how terrible life is there. The country has been plagued with poverty and ppl are living in the 1960s still over there without basic every day commodities. There’s a reason they all risk their life on a boat just to get to the US and beg and plead to stay. That country is as messed up as Iran under IR.

Again, nowhere in my post did I say cuba is a top place dara jan. I simply said we can learn things from them. Thats it. There are clear sectors they are doing certain things effectively despite obstacles. There are many they are not.

[inarsenewetrust]

I am against sanctions bro and unfortunately, sanctions (like they are doing in Iran) have prolonged the communist regime in Cuba.

True story: I was outside a club in Cuba and I swear, they had a truck that was stationed outside that was there to take any girls who talked to foreign boys (it's illegal there). My buddy who had come from Iran not too long ago, when we were there, said it reminded him of the basijis. It's such a police state and they have that aspect of their repressive apparatus.

again, what do you think happens in countries where the US is actively attempting government overthrows for the past 50+ years (to this very day, just changing in approach sometimes) ? Big shocker that the state develops a massive and repressive security apparatus

[Ghermez Agha]

improving ties why not?

Cuba despite illegal 50 year US blockade for no legitimate reason has become a world leader in medicine, helping develop one of the most effective covid vaccines, and boasting a life expectancy GREATER than that of the US! Despite limited resources they have preserved their environment to infinitely better extent than when the country was a whorehouse/gambling post for old NY mobsters. Nearly 1/4th of their lands/waters are designated as national protected areas! In sport they excel in baseball (shipping countless top prospects under age of 21 to US for multi-million dollar contracts), Greco Roman wrestling (where they dominated last olympics), and other arenas. Certainly we can learn a lot from the cubans.

As it pertains to football - I also wondered why the sport seems to lack popularity there. I think it may just be a cultural thing. In terms of finding a partner for our football I am not really sure of the benefits cuba can provide us or even vice versa given the distance/their interest in the sport. If we are really looking for some smart/realistic partnerships (lets face it belgium has nothing to gain by doing actual co-operations with us) I dont mind improving footballing ties with nearby nations who can offer us regular friendlies and solid level of competition: Russia, Turkey, Armenia, and Georgia are 4 that spring to mind. Armenia and Georgia have new generation of younger talents who are emerging in Armenia's case from top Russian academies, and in georgia's case from their own local clubs. In addition to these the portuguese seem to be very high on iranian talent atm, I would encourage all clubs, but particularly bigger ones like Porto to set up an academy/scouting system in the country to uncover the next Taremi. They have similar arrangements currently in Africa and ex portuguese colonies.

I hope this is a joke….if you talk to any Cuban anywhere (inside our outside of Cuba) they will tell you how terrible life is there. The country has been plagued with poverty and ppl are living in the 1960s still over there without basic every day commodities. There’s a reason they all risk their life on a boat just to get to the US and beg and plead to stay. That country is as messed up as Iran under IR.

[inarsenewetrust]

I am assuming you have never been to Cuba. If you have, you should leave the resorts and go talk and chill with everyday Cubans. They hate their government and are absolutely miserable there. No one believes in Communism - an ideology that has only left violence, mass murder and misery behind. They all want to leave, like Iranians want to leave IR Iran. And it's still a whorehouse, just this time for Canadians and Europeans. Prostitution is rampant there.
As for the sports talk, baseball is huge there although football is played a lot there too (streets) - they are just not good at it on a national level. It's popular there. Honestly, I feel like a lot of good clubs would be happy to set up academies, but they know politics stirs everything in IR Iran and is not worth the hassle. It goes beyond sports.
I really wished some of members here would run our football and sports. A lot of good ideas and there is a lot of love for Iran.

If their ideology was so garbage it should fail on its own right? Not under the illegal embargo I mentioned. Embargoing an island with no possibility of trade is basically a death sentence. Maybe you are unaware of the true scale of that impact. I wonder why the US is so opposed to letting things take their natural course...

And nobody said their government was perfect or communism was great, simply that they are doing some things right that under such conditions they have made the advances in the fields I mention. OP was mentioning partnerships between countries and exchange of ideas, in that case Iran can learn a lot from many countries in the world. There are species found in Cuba now that are basically found nowhere else in the region simply because of the environmental preservation. Now much of that is due to the inherent isolation that prevents americans favorite cruise ships from docking there and dumping toilet contents into their water, but a portion of it is because of a government level decision to protect those spaces. Would be amazing if we do that more in Iran instead of handing our natural resources to the chinese/latest winner of aghazadeh of the month for personal plunder. And I dont think the situation of a puerto rico (alternatively to cuba they decided to get as close as possible to US diplomatically) really proved to be all that great...

[taremiscores]

improving ties why not?

Cuba despite illegal 50 year US blockade for no legitimate reason has become a world leader in medicine, helping develop one of the most effective covid vaccines, and boasting a life expectancy GREATER than that of the US! Despite limited resources they have preserved their environment to infinitely better extent than when the country was a whorehouse/gambling post for old NY mobsters. Nearly 1/4th of their lands/waters are designated as national protected areas! In sport they excel in baseball (shipping countless top prospects under age of 21 to US for multi-million dollar contracts), Greco Roman wrestling (where they dominated last olympics), and other arenas. Certainly we can learn a lot from the cubans.

As it pertains to football - I also wondered why the sport seems to lack popularity there. I think it may just be a cultural thing. In terms of finding a partner for our football I am not really sure of the benefits cuba can provide us or even vice versa given the distance/their interest in the sport. If we are really looking for some smart/realistic partnerships (lets face it belgium has nothing to gain by doing actual co-operations with us) I dont mind improving footballing ties with nearby nations who can offer us regular friendlies and solid level of competition: Russia, Turkey, Armenia, and Georgia are 4 that spring to mind. Armenia and Georgia have new generation of younger talents who are emerging in Armenia's case from top Russian academies, and in georgia's case from their own local clubs. In addition to these the portuguese seem to be very high on iranian talent atm, I would encourage all clubs, but particularly bigger ones like Porto to set up an academy/scouting system in the country to uncover the next Taremi. They have similar arrangements currently in Africa and ex portuguese colonies.

I am assuming you have never been to Cuba. If you have, you should leave the resorts and go talk and chill with everyday Cubans. They hate their government and are absolutely miserable there. No one believes in Communism - an ideology that has only left violence, mass murder and misery behind. They all want to leave, like Iranians want to leave IR Iran. And it's still a whorehouse, just this time for Canadians and Europeans. Prostitution is rampant there. People herald a country's so-called accolades but would never live there lol. I find that funny.

As for the sports talk, baseball is huge there although football is played a lot there too (streets) - they are just not good at it on a national level. It's popular there. Honestly, I feel like a lot of good clubs would be happy to set up academies, but they know politics stirs everything in IR Iran and is not worth the hassle. It goes beyond sports. I really wished some of members here would run our football and sports. A lot of good ideas and there is a lot of love for Iran. We would have friendlies, a grassroots level that is world class AND a strong league.

[inarsenewetrust]

improving ties why not?

Cuba despite illegal 50 year US blockade for no legitimate reason has become a world leader in medicine, helping develop one of the most effective covid vaccines, and boasting a life expectancy GREATER than that of the US! Despite limited resources they have preserved their environment to infinitely better extent than when the country was a whorehouse/gambling post for old NY mobsters. Nearly 1/4th of their lands/waters are designated as national protected areas! In sport they excel in baseball (shipping countless top prospects under age of 21 to US for multi-million dollar contracts), Greco Roman wrestling (where they dominated last olympics), and other arenas. Certainly we can learn a lot from the cubans.

As it pertains to football - I also wondered why the sport seems to lack popularity there. I think it may just be a cultural thing. In terms of finding a partner for our football I am not really sure of the benefits cuba can provide us or even vice versa given the distance/their interest in the sport. If we are really looking for some smart/realistic partnerships (lets face it belgium has nothing to gain by doing actual co-operations with us) I dont mind improving footballing ties with nearby nations who can offer us regular friendlies and solid level of competition: Russia, Turkey, Armenia, and Georgia are 4 that spring to mind. Armenia and Georgia have new generation of younger talents who are emerging in Armenia's case from top Russian academies, and in georgia's case from their own local clubs. In addition to these the portuguese seem to be very high on iranian talent atm, I would encourage all clubs, but particularly bigger ones like Porto to set up an academy/scouting system in the country to uncover the next Taremi. They have similar arrangements currently in Africa and ex portuguese colonies.

[taremiscores]

Cuba is a big power in many Sports.

Yes, esp. wrestling, baseball etc. but their football is a joke. Just hate our political isolationist, extremist and nonsensical slant that means we literally have a handful of countries we can leverage. Shameful. Iranians, wherever they go, make friends with everyone and succeed to the highest levels. Complete opposite on political front, which unfortunately bleeds into our shitty sports situation.

[Nokhodi]

Cuba is great in track and field, baseball and wrestling,... but not sure what we can learn from them in football.