Dragan Skočić Appreciation Thread!

[BacheLot]

We have a mutiny on our hands boys ... first Mehdi, now it seems Sardar?

When your two best players don't agree with you - the impending will happen ...

ffs
is this shit for real..?? 😧

[BacheLot]

I’m sick of these other group comparisons. They mean nothing. Since I was a kid, whenever TM qualified people would say
“oh our group is weak bla bla” and then the results in the World Cup would negate that for the most part. Qualification in Asia is one thing, performing in the World Cup is another.

generally speaking a sorta of a true statement... "there are no Easy WCQ groups..!" but in this case .... considering how we simply bottled it twice and failed rather miserably against the only other formidable opponent in our group ....!!
imo fans certainly every legitimate reason to question eskoocher's true caliber as an international level coach... !! especially with the much anticipated WC looming large where even getting grouped with teams of similar caliber of SK would justifiably be considered a very favorable draw..!!

normally a coach with his sorta winning percentage and record can easily shake off a loss like the last SK outing as an off day at the office and a small bump in the road to WC .... !! especially considering the many pre-game challenges we faced with key starters missing out and inadequate timing for pre-game preparations...!!
but the very questionable starting 11, playing too many players outa their natural position, his rather pathetic game-management and reactions from sideline to remedy the snafu on-pitch situation were all alarming signs that the successful spell of WCQ games prior he may well have been primarily courtesy of his formidable usual starting 11, who have all been some of the best in the continent in their positions and all groomed by his predecessor CQ..!
i mean missing even one key Starter (Taremi) vs Lebanon away nearly caused us a cluster fk of a team performance and nearly an embarrassing defeat..! he got super lucky there getting his ass bailed out by sardar very late in the game..!etc etc.
sure he brilliantly got us outa of a huge hole in in last round of WCQs and qualified us with relative ease to world cup ... and he certainly was a tremendous bang for the buck for TM on most all fronts, especially so at a time when IFF was broke as a joke and unable to attract any coach of even slightly higher perceived international caliber (even so domestically) ...!
Nonetheless, legitimate questions still surround his overall coaching quality/caliber and whether he posses the sufficient coaching quality to be able to earn us respectable results vs far more formidable challenges to come at WC...??

other remaining legit qualms of eskoocher is his utter lack of appreciation and respect for calling up players who ri$k their career earnings playing in much tougher European leagues..! and even far more disconcerting issue with continued helm in charge of TM though WC is that he clearly lacks the Authority and Respect and certainly the guts to challenge the often corrupt Footballing Authorities in our Federation and Above (the way CQ used to do) and hold them accountable to providing his TM with the vital necessities in order to be successful at WC ....! top that off with yielding to wishes of our goozoo selfish local coaches demands and inviting footballers to camp who have no business being anywhere near the TM picture..!!

ps
i think regardless of all the above he has earned the right to remain in charge for the time being .... but he has to have a resounding response from his own and his TM in the next match and i want to see him hold our footballing authorities feet to fire and force them to commit more money and time to his WC Preparations program and want to see him invite some much needed younger backup cover for few positions on the pitch where we are severely lacking in quality options moving forward..!

he drops the ball again in our next match with another disjointed and cluster fk team performance like the last and he needs to GTFO there immediately ..!

[Ab-Gosht]

I think we should get Poya Asbaghi. Give the guy a couple of years and he will do wonders with what we have

yes ofcourse just like he did wonders with barnsley right? or with ifk göteborg?

[Shantaram]

Man some of you guys overrate the crap out of Iran no offense

You'd think we're expected to make the round of 16 each time... Skocic isn't perfect but his record speaks for itself. Even with Klopp or Pep at manager we'd need lots of luck to not get knocked out of the group stages

I think we should get Poya Asbaghi. Give the guy a couple of years and he will do wonders with what we have

[Kian H]

Why is that crazy? Have you seen what shape Iraq, Syria, Lebanón and UAE are in? I have never seen them this bad.

It's only logical to compare results vs the only team that could potentially give us a hard time in this group.
This is the first time in a long time we have players on the same level as Korea.

In 2014 and 2018 Korea had better players but with the help of CQ kabir we closed the gap and managed to get 10 out of 12 points.
Even during the miserable 2010WCQ Daei and Ghotbi combo did better than him. Mind you, that Korean team was insanely good and reached 2nd round of 2010 WC.

On the other hand Skocic has failed in both games vs Korea. We looked absolutely clueless in Tehran and the Seoul game was just terrible.
The only difference was our star players managed to salvage 1 pt in Tehran. In Seoul however, there was no one to save his ass.

Did you Read my Di Matteo example? Then you have the answer. Also Skocic Got more points against the small teams than CQ and all the others. So what? You cant compare result in a time span of 10 years, betweeen different teams, different players and different circumstances (players missing, already qualified and so on)

[Medzdidz]

I'm not a huge fan of Skocic, he has a lot of flaws, but please can anyone tell me how hiring some random "big named" manager is gonna actually give a sh*t about our football in a span of 2-3 months?

All it's going to do is divide our football more... Guys like Leo Jardim don't give a crap about Iran, they just want lots of money in a short period of time. Do you think they know anything about PGPL? big LOL...

Plus Iran is not "expected" to go to the round of 16. That's just rubbish... Rather, going to the round of 16 would be exceeding expectations. 75% of the teams in the World Cup are better than us, and 75% maybe even generous... We need lots of luck and as much preparations as possible. IFF needs to step it up but unfortunately we all know how useless they are...

My biggest concern is what happens after this World Cup. I posted a while back that most of our current squad are going to be 30+ by the next World Cup and we have a limited amount of young players coming through. I want a manager who is going to bring though and slowly implement these younger players. I am not convinced that Skocic is the man to do that at all.

[peiman92]

Lol comparing coaches by comparing one result vs another team is just crazy. Specially when it is different eras and players
Well Di Matteo won CHL with Chelsea. Something Mourinho, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Conte and other Great managers couldnt do with Chelsea. So he must be better than all of Them
I live you guys football passion, the football knowledge is unfortunately lacking.
I have concerns like many others. But I cant see what any coach Can change in 8 months. You have to understand that it wont change much. You Think a New foreign coach knows about IPL players such Az Hardani? They know Azmoun, Taremi and Jahanbakhsh, thats it. He wont watch 10000 hours of IPL matches. He Will get recommended which players to Pick, or he Will go with the exact Same squad as Skocic, because he wants experienced players who know eachother and have worked together.
You guys really Think players like Hajsafi Will be droppes?? This is crazy. The New coach Will be told that Hajsafi is the most experienced player and one of the leaders in the dressing room who has the other players respect, and therefore invite him immediatly. Therefore the squad Will be exactly the same.
What a New coach may do, is changing the tactics a bit. Probably he Will play more defensively, as that is the easier thing to do, and what most teams do, when they havnt had time to work on other tactics. And you cant build New tactics without proper camps and friendlies. Even Pep cant do that. So it Will be parking the bus, which seems to annoy you guys anyway.
Worst case scenario we Will end up with a iranian coach who is biased as fukk.
Please consider these things and thing about it logically and not emotionally

Why is that crazy? Have you seen what shape Iraq, Syria, Lebanón and UAE are in? I have never seen them this bad.

It's only logical to compare results vs the only team that could potentially give us a hard time in this group.
This is the first time in a long time we have players on the same level as Korea.

In 2014 and 2018 Korea had better players but with the help of CQ kabir we closed the gap and managed to get 10 out of 12 points.
Even during the miserable 2010WCQ Daei and Ghotbi combo did better than him. Mind you, that Korean team was insanely good and reached 2nd round of 2010 WC.

On the other hand Skocic has failed in both games vs Korea. We looked absolutely clueless in Tehran and the Seoul game was just terrible.
The only difference was our star players managed to salvage 1 pt in Tehran. In Seoul however, there was no one to save his ass.

[Iranianarsenal11]

I'm not a huge fan of Skocic, he has a lot of flaws, but please can anyone tell me how hiring some random "big named" manager is gonna actually give a sh*t about our football in a span of 2-3 months?

All it's going to do is divide our football more... Guys like Leo Jardim don't give a crap about Iran, they just want lots of money in a short period of time. Do you think they know anything about PGPL? big LOL...

Plus Iran is not "expected" to go to the round of 16. That's just rubbish... Rather, going to the round of 16 would be exceeding expectations. 75% of the teams in the World Cup are better than us, and 75% maybe even generous... We need lots of luck and as much preparations as possible. IFF needs to step it up but unfortunately we all know how useless they are...

[taremiscores]

We have a mutiny on our hands boys ... first Mehdi, now it seems Sardar?

When your two best players don't agree with you - the impending will happen ...

[peiman92]

Skocic had qualified TM prior to his second match and missed most all his key legionnaires including Taremi the WCQ leading scorer.The others were playing elimination type games. Circumstances matter. It's like the folks comparing WC 98, 06, 14 and 18 results and teams...apples and oranges.

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In 2007ACQ and 2018WCQ TM had also already qualified before the second match vs Korea. We still didn't lose against them.

Iran-Korea is never a friendly match, no matter the circumstances.