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all time in my head...probably wilmots is getting two wages. one from iran, and other from saudi arabia and others countries, to make sure, iran do not qualify for the next round...we can trust usa and other states, all they want is an world cup in qatar without iran....
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Would be cool to get this hashtag trending..Originally posted by BacheLot View Post#WilmotsOUT
#WilmotsOUT
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Ask yourself what self-respecting coach (no matter their level of coaching is) would accept such a pre-hiring condition ????Originally posted by FutbolGods View PostA key part here is Wilmots agreeing to choose his tactics based on IFF's preference. He was basically brought in because unlike CQ and Renard he could be controlled.
اسنادی به دستمان رسیده که نشان میدهد فدراسیون فوتبال پیش از امضای قرارداد با مارک ویلموتس با اِروه رنار مذاکرات جدی داشته است.
به گزارش خبرورزشی، مأمور فدراسیون در مذاکره مستقیم با ر*نار، عباس ترابیان سرپرست سابق روابط بین*الملل فدراسیون فوتبال بود. او که در گذشته مسئول مذاکره با کارلوس کی*روش بود و این مربی پرتغالی را به تیم ملی آورد، این بار هم پای میز مذاکره نشست تا بتواند اروه ر*نار را قانع به حضور در تیم ملی کند.
پیش از آن گفته می*شد فدراسیون در جام ملت*ها از مربی فرانسوی خواسته بود تا بازی*های ایران را تماشا کند. عباس ترابیان در زمانی که فدراسیون فوتبال اعلام کرد ابتدا به صورت تلفنی با اروه ر*نار و ایجنت الجزایری*اش صحبت کرد. در ادامه قرار شد طرفین در کشور سنگال با هم ملاقات کنند. ترابیان در این باره به خبرورزشی می*گوید: «بله این اتفاق افتاد و من به درخواست فدراسیون فوتبال برای مذاکره با ر*نار عازم سنگال شدم. مذاکرات با او بسیار خوب پیش رفت. این مربی واقعاً علاقه*مند بود که به ایران بیاید.»
توافق طرفین قطعی شد و اروه ر*نار پذیرفت به ازای دریافت سالانه ۲ میلیون دلار با فدراسیون فوتبال قرارداد امضا کند. همسر ر*نار هم در جریان مذاکرات قرار داشت. به هر حال برای او مهم بود اروه قرار است کجا مربیگری کند. این مربی فرانسوی همیشه خانواده خود را کنارش دارد، به همین خاطر همسر ر*نار هم درباره شرایط ایران و زندگی در کشورمان سؤالاتی داشت. او در گذشته همسر برونو متسو بود. آن*ها ۴ فرزند هم داشتند. بعد از مرگ این مربی نام*آشنای فرانسوی که در دوره*ای برای مذاکره با پرسپولیس هم به تهران سفر کرده بود، اروه ر*نار که دستیار سابقش بود، با همسر او ازدواج کرد و ۴ فرزند او را هم پذیرفت.
خانواده ر*نار در جریان مذاکرات از همه چیز رضایت داشتند و قرار شد بعد از بازگشت عباس ترابیان به ایران قرارداد تنظیم و برای این مربی ارسال شود. در این بین، اما نه ترابیان و نه ر*نار نمی*دانستند از سوی دیگر اتفاقات دیگری در جریان است. با پادرمیانی یکی از سفرای ایران در اروپا و همین*طور یک ایجنت فوتبال، سرمربی بلژیکی به ایران پیشنهاد شد. فدراسیون فوتبال ابتدا تصور می*کرد این مربی همان کسی است که در حال حاضر روی نیمکت بلژیک می*نشیند. به همین دلیل تاج و همکارانش ذوق زده شدند. آن*ها در ادامه، اما فهمیدند مارک ویلموتس نه حالا که در گذشته سرمربی تیم ملی بلژیک بوده است. مذاکرات با او آغاز شد و در نهایت طرفین به توافق رسیدند تا مربی بلژیکی به تیم ملی بیاید. او یک حسن ویژه داشت و آن این بود که به خواسته فدراسیون عمل می*کرد. اروه ر*نار تفکرات تاکتیکی خود را داشت و فدراسیون نمی*توانست به او بگوید هجومی بازی کند؛ به ویژه اینکه مربی فرانسوی بازی ایران مقابل ژاپن را هم دیده بود. ویلموتس، اما به نظر فدراسیون تمکین کرد و پذیرفت به خواسته آن*ها تیمی هجومی بچیند، اما از نظر مالی حضور مربی فرانسوی بسیار به صرفه*تر بود.
یکی از دلایل قطع همکاری فدراسیون فوتبال با کارلوس کی*روش علاوه بر اخلاق او، مسئله مالی بود. تاج اعتقاد داشت دستمزد بالای این مربی برای آن*ها مشکلات مالی زیادی به وجود آورده. آخرین قرارداد کی*روش که ۶ ماهه بود، ارزش ۸۰۰ هزار دلاری برای این مربی داشت. بنابراین اگر او می*خواست یک ساله تمدید کند یک میلیون و ۶۰۰ هزار دلار می*خواست. بنابراین توقع می*رفت مربی جدید رقمی بگیرد که حداقل با حرف*های تاج برای صرفه*جویی مالی همخوانی داشته باشد. حالا، اما منابع خبری و نزدیک به فدراسیون فوتبال فاش کرده*اند این مربی سالانه ۳ میلیون دلار دستمزد می*گیرد! یعنی حقوق مارک ویلموتس در ایران بالای ۳۳ میلیارد تومان است. البته یک منبع خبری دیگر گفت این رقم دستمزد ویلموتس و دستیارانش است که آورده ولی مگر دستمزد دستیاران او چقدر است؟ ر*نار اعلام کرده بود در سفر به ایران تنها دو دستیار خود را به همراه می*آورد ولی اکثر دستیاران ویلموتس خارجی هستند و وحید هاشمیان تنها عضو ایرانی کادر فنی است. شواهد نشان می*دهد سنخیتی بین حرف*های تاج بعد از جدایی کی*روش و پیش از امضای قرارداد ویلموتس با اتفاقی که پس از آن رخ داد، وجود ندارد
absolutely nobody but a Pure Mercenary Coach who's Only motivation is his paycheck and nothing more..!!
#WilmotsOUT
AND THAT so immediately...!!
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We are on the verge of not qualifying for the WC after 2 straight losses. Both of which we as layman football enthusiasts could clear as day see were tactical disasters. From his choice of call-ups, starting line-ups, subs, positioning, training, everything has been sub par and a disgrace. Then after everything he blames it on "bad luck". Seems as if he doesn't care about the Iranian people the way CQ did. He just cares about a paycheck and thats it.Originally posted by onebloodfool View PostI dont think Wilmots has been a catastrophe for Iran, its waaaay to early to claim that.
It may be too early for a complete catastrophe, but we are sure as hell almost there. I think its best to rectify this before it gets there.
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The difference between CQ and Wilmots among other things is CQ's first priority was to win and go to WC this guy his first priority is money and getting paid on time.
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Originally posted by Philosophy_King View PostThe problem is, that we have a Coach who made an horrible line-up, no game plan and was not able to anticipate that Masoud is not mature enough to avoid red cards.
I mean seriously, how on earth can Wilmots ignore players like Alireza Jahanbakhsh, Gholizadeh, Kaveh Rezai for such an crucial game and start 35 years old Masoud who hadn't a good game since 2011 or something (he was never a constantly good player at all)?
Obviosly the future will be very dark with Wilmots in charge.Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Postshould we wait until we are guaranteed out of WC to fire him? What coach will want to come to iran then...the one thing we can offer a coach from a professional and CV standpoint is the chance of coaching a solid team in WC and providing an upset. Who will want to coach us if we dont have a meaningful fixture until AC 2023???Lets get some perspective here. We've lost away fixtures against nations, that Iran traditionally has had a hard time beating, even under CQ. Except for the pounding we gave Bahrain in 2011, we escaped with a draw in the dying minutes of extra time in Manama back then.Originally posted by persian_pooya View PostIt's not reactionary. Wilmots is a horrible coach with a poor track record. If he stays then we are doomed
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I dont think Wilmots has been a catastrophe for Iran, its waaaay to early to claim that.
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I'm starting to think that the players simply found out that Wilmots is a clueless manager, so they have no reason to be motivated and perform. After all our team mentality has always been a major issues and CQ has adressed this constantly, he was on top of everything and made sure players would give their all for TM. Now it looks like the players simply don't feel the urge to perform, because of their bad manager. This is the nature of group dynamics!Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View PostI forgot to add,
The iraqi players had fire n tem, to win the game.
our players simply didnt!
over confidence perhaps. too lax, maybe?
whatever, but they really didnt look like they're fired up.
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I forgot to add,
The iraqi players had fire n tem, to win the game.
our players simply didnt!
over confidence perhaps. too lax, maybe?
whatever, but they really didnt look like they're fired up.
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Wimots was always gonna be a disaster.
One bad spell? okay maybe due to back luck. TWO? okay maybe we should start asking questions...THREE? I'm sorry, find the common denominator.
This is the guy under whom a super-talented Belgium side was more toothless and importent than Aqa khan-qajar in a WC quarterfinal vs. Argentina. Legit, Iran with super defensive tactics created more chances vs. Argies in that World Cup than Belgium with all their stars.
Then 2 years ago, he manages this golden generation team to not only lose, but be dominated and comprehensively beaten by WALES of all teams...when free agent and clubless bum like Robsun-Kanou looks like prime Brazilian Ronaldo against Belgium.
Then takes over the African Champions and manages the feet of failing to qualify to a WC with them for the first time in 12 years.
I have no idea what IFF was thinking offering him the job. Nothing adds up....except that he's "Khareji".
It's like Liverpool parting ways with Klopp in 2022 and going in and appoint Mark Hughes as his successor.
Cut our losses before it's too late. We can still salvage this with 3 home games left. But we'll need MINIMUM 10 points, possibly all 12 to qualify. Easier said than done, especially when you just know Iraqis WOULD LOVE to spoil the party and make us cry in that serious do-or-die match at Azadi in June.
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If you knew EVEN ONE THING about football, you'd understand that a good coach knows how to pick the best players for his style of play / strategy, and that's exactly what CQ did, which is why he, undeniably despite your delusion, produced the best results and most successful world cup campaigns in TM's history.Originally posted by tooleh khers View PostHe is absolutely correct. The post CQ team is void of brains and skills. If Wilmots or any coach wants to change things they need to replace half the team. Wilmots needs to understand these player were not picked because they are the best players we have or best players even in their posts, these players were fit for Cq's strategy. TM needs to shed this skin. In conclusion Roshan knows more football than you and you are even more audacious for questioning his knowledge and expertise.
Who the heck is Hassan Roshan to comment on this? Just because he was a good player (for iranian standards, nobody else has ever heard of him), doesn't mean he knows tactics and coaching properly. He's just another jealous clown, like all those old school iranian players / coaches that are jealous of CQ's success and the fact that he's achieved more with Iran than all of them combined.
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I still havent made up my mind on Wilmots, just like other coaches since I need a whole bunch of games to assess their impact/abilities. (although Im not impressed with what Ive seen so far).
But my question is how can our defenders & mids (pretty much 95% unchanged from CQ's) who used to be in control of our half and played an assertive & secure game when under attack ... now, they've become amateurs who fail to cover marks, cut off runs, leave spaces open, fall behind marks, make mistakes in the box, ... etc etc etc!!!!
the SAME PLAYERS!!!!
All they have to do is re-do what they were taught to control their zone.
The Bahrain game & goal was an absolute fluke. so I'm not counting that.
But today's display was a team in shambles! ... WITH THE SAME SET OF PLAYERS!!!!!!
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He is absolutely correct. The post CQ team is void of brains and skills. If Wilmots or any coach wants to change things they need to replace half the team. Wilmots needs to understand these player were not picked because they are the best players we have or best players even in their posts, these players were fit for Cq's strategy. TM needs to shed this skin. In conclusion Roshan knows more football than you and you are even more audacious for questioning his knowledge and expertise.Originally posted by Keano View PostAnd then the football expert Hassan Roshan has the audacity to make a ridiculous claim saying TM is now paying for CQ's poor coaching and management. Furthermore he claims that CQ did nothing to develop TM and youth football, and now we have to start from scratch doing it all. How ignorant one can be to make such biased statements?
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We must try to bring back Carlos Quriouz to Iran. I would garanty that by now we would be first in our group by now. They had to give Carlos Qurioz 3th time chance 3th World Cup under him would make a excellent World Cup 2022 and not to forget we almost WON Portugal and draw Spain and Argentina we almost draw.
I would say Wilmots must leave until it is to late. Please no Iranian we need someone like Carlos Quriouz style and niveaus level
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Didn't he cost Belgium the world cup with a star studded team?Originally posted by Shahin K View PostIn Belgium Wilmots is considered as the poorest manager in decades.
The absence of tactics is what he is blamed for the most.
Shame..
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It is not just that we have lost the game, but the way we lost it is embarrassing; iraq dominated us badly in the second half. this loss was much more humiliating than the one against Japan.
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