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[bahbah]

so, here we go again.
thanks to the HKG – BAH tie. we still have some chances to advance to the next round.
One thing is sure and a absolut must, we have to win all our remaining games!
That would give us 18pts.
Crucial is the upcoming match IRQ–BAH.
IRAQ wins
that makes it almost impossible for us to qualify as first of the group. We would habe to win all our remaining games and hoping for being on of the best second placed teams in all groups.
IRAQ ties or IRAQ loses
that would give us hope to finish first. We just would have to win all our games. And will be on top of the table first.
So lets hope for a draw or BAH win.

[tmfan]

2018 edition's top 4 runner-up teams

Syria - 18 pts
UAE - 17 pts
China - 17 pts
Iraq - 12 pts (Iraq played only 6 games because of Indonesia's suspension.)

Imo, 17 pts is a must.

[Super Shojaei]

Not judging from the Bahrain game per se, but I never thought Wilmots was a good fit for Iran. He’s more of a peoples manager, whereas Queiroz was a true disciplinarian. We all know our players lack true discipline to be consistent, and I’m afraid Wilmots can’t address this issue. We should have went for Renard.

Renard managed a 2-2 draw with war torn Yemen at home and a 0-0 with Palestine. Worse results than getting a defeat away against a Bahrain side that has been in good form and causing trouble to every Asian side it's played against recently

[Kiarash]

Not judging from the Bahrain game per se, but I never thought Wilmots was a good fit for Iran. He’s more of a peoples manager, whereas Queiroz was a true disciplinarian. We all know our players lack true discipline to be consistent, and I’m afraid Wilmots can’t address this issue. We should have went for Renard.

[tmfan]

That yellow Azmoun got could be a big blow when we play against Bahrain or Iraq at home. He is really childish.

[BacheLot]

it would be an absolute disaster and a crying shame as an Asian #1 failing to qualify to Qatar WC, especially so before even making it to next round..!!
This upcoming world cup imo is our only and best chance of ever making it out to the 2nd round, especially in a more favorable grouping than we were handed in Russia.
its the last WC in current exciting format, and im next to certain most European teams will struggle to perform adequately in gutter climate and venues, leaving a good chance for African, SA or Asian team to make deep runs into the WC finals..!

[saeed_noro]

He is right, and it is now the time to open these thread and discussions and i hope it reaches IFF and the players, that we are now in a very bad position and under pressure. No more space to make mistakes. we must count cambodia and hong kong as teams, which will not draw or win vs. bahrain and iraq. this is actually a group of 3 teams...Do or Die.

Khak tu sareshun age be round e badi wa jameh jahani tu qatar, jolo dare khodemun natoonan beresan.

[Iran_19]

What you are saying is we are back to JAADOO VA JAMBAL .. something we didn't have to deal with for 8 years.

I am waiting for Mr. Zolfagharnasab commentary! The inventor of "Attacking Football"

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[sam20]

If we lose Iraq they must sent home Wilmots and we need to bring back Carlos Quriouz before it is to late! We had to keeped Carlos Qurioz the best team and orgabisarion and players he had. Best ever World Cup 2018 in History for Iran.
Wilmots could also not Qualify with Senegal to World Cup

LOL Bring him back from where? He's happily coaching Columbia right now. Letting go of CQ was the biggest mistake ever. - Even when we had the best attackers (Mahdavikia, Karimi, Daei, Hashemian) + Rahman Rezaei (Seria A Caliber) in Defence, our defending as a team was always terrible, we struggled to beat low Asian teams, and stood ZERO chance against teams in the world cup.

CQ came in and new exactly what was needed for us to succeed, and how to use our strengths - Playing super disciplined as a team, and defending as a team.

Now, with attackers that aren't even as good (with the exception of Azmoun), not one single defender good enough for a top league, and a coach who wants to play attacking football, we're in for a disaster of a qualification campaign.
Sure, it took CQ a while to get us to where we were in 2018, but at least with his approach, other teams had next to zero clear chances to score during a match, and 1 goal from us was enough to scrape by as he was building our team.

With Wilmots, we're just giving away chance after chance to teams that wouldn't even see our goal in the past under CQ. Even if we improve over time with Wilmots, it's way too risky to completely overhaul the way our team has been playing for 10 years, and play pure attacking football. We're simply using the world cup qualification as a transition period to play a risky, attacking game we're not used to, and we might be out of world cup qualifying contention before we learn how to play under Wilmots (if we ever do).

I hope i'm wrong, but i can definitely see us not qualifying this time around. Even if we barely qualify (like we did with Branko), we won't stand a chance in the group stages.

I like being optimistic and hopefully will be proven wrong, but I really have a bad feeling about this.

[PSGman#19]

i still believe we will top group, we have last 4 games easy games, bahrain and iraq are at home and hong kong cambodia are easy games

We don't win often against Iraq recently, home, away or neutral venues. I expected us to lose some points against Iraq (not a loss again Bahrain).

[shahabGAOL]

We probably have to finish 1st to qualify! I have a hard time seeing the 2nd team from this group qualify.
Next game is decisive. A loss in Basra and we can kiss the WC goodbye.

If we lose Iraq they must sent home Wilmots and we need to bring back Carlos Quriouz before it is to late! We had to keeped Carlos Qurioz the best team and orgabisarion and players he had. Best ever World Cup 2018 in History for Iran.

Wilmots could also not Qualify with Senegal to World Cup

[shahabGAOL]

I said this after the draw, but Bahrain is best pot 3 team and arguably should have been in pot 2.

With that said, our best hope is if Hong Kong can pull an upset and beat Bahrain. That of course would mean we would have to beat Bahrain in Tehran, and somehow come out with 4 points or more against Iraq in two of our matches.

Finishing 2nd in this group is risky.

Bahrain will win Hong Kong. Hong Kong is not good like cambodia. After all we had to keep Carlos Quriouz

[The]

I said this after the draw, but Bahrain is best pot 3 team and arguably should have been in pot 2.

With that said, our best hope is if Hong Kong can pull an upset and beat Bahrain. That of course would mean we would have to beat Bahrain in Tehran, and somehow come out with 4 points or more against Iraq in two of our matches.

Finishing 2nd in this group is risky.

[Ghormesabzi]

We probably have to finish 1st to qualify! I have a hard time seeing the 2nd team from this group qualify.
Next game is decisive. A loss in Basra and we can kiss the WC goodbye.

We should be fine if we finish 2nd. Qatar will most likely top their group which means the fifth best runner up will advance to the next round as well.

Having said that, it's no guarantee we will even finish second. Just imagine the pressure if we lose against Iraq!

[peiman92]

We probably have to finish 1st to qualify! I have a hard time seeing the 2nd team from this group qualify.
Next game is decisive. A loss in Basra and we can kiss the WC goodbye.