Iran vs. South Korea (Asian derby) | 11.6.2019

[sam20]

LOL..did you just make a whole post defending CQ when no one blamed him to begin with? Im pretty sure everyone agrees that it was our defense alone that fucked up that game for us.

Maybe if you paid attention to the post I was responding to, you wouldn't have trouble understanding what I was arguing against.

They were claiming that the loss to Japan was "the worst defensive display from Iran in 25 years" , obviously putting the blame on CQ, as he claimed our overall defensive display was horrible.

There are others who also blame CQ for that loss, when he couldn't have done anything about the goals.

[persian_pooya]

1st japan goal : stupid, unprofessional lapse of concentration by our defender - nothing to do with Carlos Queiroz

2nd Japan goal: harsh penalty call - nothing to do with Carlos Queiroz

3rd Japan goal: 90th minute with Iran down 2-0, had to risk everything - nothing to do with Carlos Queiroz

I still don't understand how people are blaming CQ for this loss, when we were clearly in the game, and even had the best scoring chance (Azmoun) up until our defender decided to stop playing before the ref blew the whistle.

You can't blame CQ for this lapse of concentration either: it's clearly evident in our teamwork and tactical discipline, that Carlos Queiroz did a great job of instilling discipline and concentration into our players, but unfortunately, one or two players got too emotional and made this individual mistake - it's also in our culture to get too emotional sometimes, and it showed during this game. Even the analysts clearly stated "it seems that Japan is just the more emotionally disciplined side"

The commentator also said "Iran have been 100% focused during this entire tournament, up until that lapse of concentration"



CQ did everything he could and shouldn't be blamed at all for this loss.

YOu could partially blame CQ by saying he should have used Montazeri in that game instead of the inexperienced Kanaani.

[kaabi]

i wanna add just one thing i loooove to see how important it is for the koreans to break our winning streak against them!
after the equalizer you could see how broken they were it means so much to them to beat us again just love the rivalery with them! and cudos to them that they play against us not like japan or australia!!

[perspolis#1]

The dirty Queiroz bashing by IRIB agents, Misaghi and Sianaki was so ugly to hear. They keep bashing TM under Queiroz and defending the so called'' Beautiful football'', unless i was dreaming i watched only 15 to 20 minutes of decent football by TM today. Not targeting Wilmots, because he didn't have enough to implement his work and friendly matches result doesn't matter anyway but it wasn't for Beiranvand result could have been much different!
Terrible game by Rezaeian, Milad was also so so, and Ezzatollahi is not game ready yet. Any way this team will change from now on and is time to find a play maker if the plan is to play attacking football. Hajsafi as CAM is waste of spot!!
btw, i didn't get JB sub, thought he was having a decent game.

To be fair to Wilmots I think his subs were not to improve tactics but just to test out other players in this specific situation. Have to note that while CQ had an exemplary record in competitive away games vs Korea doesn't mean its bound to repeat.
The away games against teams like Korea, Saudi etc have generally dictated whether we qualify to the World cup or not.

[Iran_19]

The dirty Queiroz bashing by IRIB agents, Misaghi and Sianaki was so ugly to hear. They keep bashing TM under Queiroz and defending the so called'' Beautiful football'', unless i was dreaming i watched only 15 to 20 minutes of decent football by TM today. Not targeting Wilmots, because he didn't have enough to implement his work and friendly matches result doesn't matter anyway but it wasn't for Beiranvand result could have been much different!
Terrible game by Rezaeian, Milad was also so so, and Ezzatollahi is not game ready yet. Any way this team will change from now on and is time to find a play maker if the plan is to play attacking football. Hajsafi as CAM is waste of spot!!

btw, i didn't get JB sub, thought he was having a decent game.

[Ghermez Agha]

We got one of the best sports psychologists around but in the end it wasn’t enough on the day. Sad to see as our team’s discipline and composure had been faultless for an unreal amount of time.
But beri beri is trolling. Needs some Thiamine

I am reporting you to admin for trolling Dr. Moosh Gharib.
I did not mention CQ once.
YOU need to stop bringing up CQ in every post.

No people are tired of the likes of you.
You need to stop trolling.
Admin please warn these people.

Warning issued to you both!

@ DR - he didn't bring up CQ here, please stop fishing for an irrelevant argument.

@ Beri - you're on thin ice, you have done enough trolling on the boards for a while. here is your official notice - you've been warned before and I'm giving you one last chance. you are in no position to tell ppl not to get involved in covos on this board....in case you forgot that is what a forum is for. Next infraction will result in a few weeks off for you

[KeonKish]

The torabi guy isn't that young and prefer to rot in IPL while Gholizadeh&Delfi that are much younger are playing in Europe

I'm sure that once Delfi and Gholizadeh are fit, we won't be seeing alipour or torabi.

Especially due to the fact that Wilmots himself is Belgian, i'm certain that he will keep a close eye on all of our belgian legionares.

[PSGman#19]

It's harsh on Torabi Bi-honar jan, the kid is only 24. At least for the moment he is a good rotation player to have for tournaments and qualifiers.

Nourallahi has been a bit weak in the 3-4 games he's played for TM. The only reason he's there is because of the dearth of midfielders we have so I'm expecting he will still have a squad place until someone else comes up.

Am hoping Rezaeian is replaced by Ghafouri (who would be better in this style of football and I thought is really dangerous in international football on the overlap whenever he plays) or Moharrami. I actually think Ghafouri would be better than the other two for the national team, even if I prefer Moharrami as a footballer.

The torabi guy isn't that young and prefer to rot in IPL while Gholizadeh&Delfi that are much younger are playing in Europe

[Futbaldoost]

It's a damn crime that Beiro is not playing for a top European side.

The challenge with Beiro is that he comes from the most humble beginnings compared to other players and the family support structure that has existed for Jahanbakhsh, Azmoun and Ezatollahi is just not there. Add to this the relatively comfortable salary and living in Iran compared to challenges of moving to a highly competitive and foreign European football environment where you have to overcome language and cultural barriers in addition to higher professional performance requirements and the hesitation becomes understandable. None of that makes it justifiable though. He needs to bite the bullet and go for it. Hopefully, Vahid Hashemian could make a difference in providing some personal coaching to Beiro. He has so much talent that he needs to use this window of opportunity to go to the next level.

Sangarbaaneh Bimaanand: Alireza Beriranvand!
Go TM!

[tehroonieh MD]

Descent overall performance from TM. A tie in Seoul in front of tens of thousand of Korean fans is always good. Let's acknowledge that TM is going through a transitional period and the new management team has a lot to learn from this friendly. It is also great to have a world class solid keeper like Beiro without whom this game would have probably ended at 3-1 for Korea if not worse.

Go TM!

It's a damn crime that Beiro is not playing for a top European side.