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  • FutbolGods
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    Originally posted by Trinity View Post
    The only good thing about him is that he killed bazikon salari, and insisted on having a good pitch. That's it.
    Sure. We'll just ignore that he also built a state of the art training center with his own money and fought to retake it from the opportunists and gave it back to the national team, only to end up being called "Gohroosh" by some namak nashnas nobody on the internet.

    And I love how you say "that's it" as if ending bazikon salari and having good pitches are trivial issues. Bazikon salari had been a malignant cancer on Iranian football at all levels before CQ. Just go back to Brangoh's era when the national team was basically a set of competing cliques led by star players that openly showed no respect for the coach.

    The bad things? International press conferences shitting on Iran. Underdog mentality. You get called the underdog enough times then you start acting like the underdogs and your players get nervous against lowly Japan.
    Uninformed nonsense. This is just teenage bravado. Fostering an underdog mentality is one of the very basics of sports psychology ffs. You see it in every sport when it comes to public statements. The coach either goes for the underdog gimmick and talks up the opposing team and singles out their star players to put pressure on them, or he goes for the siege mentality and accuses the other team of having no respect for his players and instills in his team an Us Against The World mentality. If he's lucky, he's given enough material to do both.

    This is just basic sports psychology that you'd know if you follow ANY professional sport on a meaningful level. A coach that goes to a conference to shit on the opposing team and brag about his own team would be laughed at as a moron who has just given the opposing coach plenty of "bulletin board material". Let me guess, genius, you don't know what that term means either. BBM basically refers to statements by the opposing coach, players or the media that the coach posts on a bulletin board in the locker room and points to repeatedly in the days leading up to the game in order to motivate his players and make them feel as though they have something to prove to the other side.

    The fact that you don't know something so basic and actually think a coach's job is to talk up his team in pregame conferences like a bragging blowhard shows how little you understand about sports in general.

    Friendlies against Somali pirates, and palestine instead of big teams that would actually boost the players confidence and give them invaluable experience and exposure.
    Here's the problem there, Sparkey: friendlies against big teams require big money. And if you followed Iranian football and/or could read Farsi, you'd know that the federation can't even fund the maintenance of a godforsaken training pitch...let alone pay the big bucks needed to arrange matches against heavy weights. Then there's something called *international sanctions* which caused even the goddamn Greeks to cancel on us, but it's CQ's fault that we're not playing France and Brazil!

    Once they slowly take off their rosey IR MEDIA king CQ glasses off and smell the coffee.
    Rosey IR media CQ glasses? By media do you mean the same IRIB that has been bashing this guy nonstop and refusing to give airtime to anyone who actually supports him? The same IRIB where the schizo host mistranslates CQ's statements and goes on to give a sobbing performance in condemnation of him...then refuses to correct his mistake even after it's pointed out on social media?... Then again you probably spend as much time actually following IR media as you do following professional sports. Probably too busy 'smelling coffee' or something.

    We have an incredible crop of highly technical, and motivated players. We're going to do big things without him. He was holding us down. Not the other way around.
    Then funny how this "incredible crop of highly technical and motivated players" have been passionately on CQ's side and have repeatedly called for his contract to be extended! I'm sure you know something they don't. They're too busy training with CQ to know how much he sucks according to those FIFA 19 simulations you've seen on youtube. Maybe you should send them a few clips.

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  • eerooni
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    Originally posted by freak View Post
    I've always been a fan of Los Cafeteros and CQ going there is just more reason for me to support them full time.
    My wife is Colombian so my support is unconditional!

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  • NFL
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    Originally posted by Trinity View Post
    I'm taking bets. Over and under 10 matches, official or friendly. Doesn't matter. I'm betting Colombia will sack CQ in less than 10 games if they do end up actually signing him.
    come on man! Neither Colombia nor any other country would sign a coach with the price tag of CQ and fire him with less than 10 matches under his belt! maybe something unrelated to football may cause them to part ways, but it would be utterly stupid to hire any coach (never mind CQ) and then fire him before he even coaches 10 games! it's not cheap to rip up these contracts these days.

    I won't bet any money as I know I won't get paid , but I am willing to bet you a simple "I told you so!".

    until then!

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  • Trinity
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    Originally posted by Futbolista View Post
    I haven't seen or heard cool beans used since the 90s. Thanks for taking me back!
    Your nickname for CQ was particularly weak though, in an 'I just lost some brain cells' kind of way.

    I think it's irrelevant how CQ will do in Colombia. The point is he did great with us. Aside from how the team's game improved overall think about how the norm for any 20 yr old who performed well for half a season used to be going to the gulf leagues and wasting their talent/ youth. We have more young players trying to prove themselves in European leagues than ever before.
    Ditto on lost brain cells.

    Well, my unpopular opinion about gohroosh is that he completely crippled our attacking style of football. Played with 11 behind the ball for 8 years except for this Asian Cup. And he wasn't even the first guy that brought this style to Iran. If you remember Iran played the exact same way vs Korea in the 2011 Asian Cup under Ghotbi. Not much to it. Get 11 guys. Make sure they're behind the ball, compact, cover each other and occupy key zones. It's a great way to frustrate your opponents and demoralize them if they can't score in the first 60 mins. And you can freely muster up a quick counter upon possession. That's his legacy at the helm for 8 years.

    And as you saw against Bosnia, and more recently Japan. If TM concedes a goal, they had absolutely no comprehensive attacking plan. No possession, passing accuracy and the number of passes is beyond pathetic. Our Midfield is a joke. Cause it's essentially non-existent. Infact, one of the reasons we got thumped by Japan was because we took out our own midfield by lobbing the ball to Sardar, instead of utilizing the mid-field and the wingers. Then people complain about ARJ being invisible. When your only attacking plan is lob the ball forward and hope for the best this is what you end up getting. Even Ali Parvin was a more competent football coach than gohroosh.

    The only good thing about him is that he killed bazikon salari, and insisted on having a good pitch. That's it.

    The bad things? International press conferences shitting on Iran. Underdog mentality. You get called the underdog enough times then you start acting like the underdogs and your players get nervous against lowly Japan. Friendlies against Somali pirates, and palestine instead of big teams that would actually boost the players confidence and give them invaluable experience and exposure. Division. Lack of respect. Spent the better part of the year outside Iran. Didn't go to watch any of PGL matches in Iran. Didn't consult any of the coaches about their players, their conditions, etc. Instead started a fight with every coach that won an IPL title. Need I go on?

    And I love how people keep saying he brought discipline into the team. You saw this discipline with Pouladi's grassrolling vs Iraq 4 years ago. And 5 people on the pitch vs Japan that stopped playing in order to bully the ref. Peoples opinions on this charlatan is going to change for the worse with the passage of time. Once they slowly take off their rosey IR MEDIA king CQ glasses off and smell the coffee. We have an incredible crop of highly technical, and motivated players. We're going to do big things without him. He was holding us down. Not the other way around.

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  • Futbolista
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    Originally posted by Trinity View Post
    Sure thing bud. But I'd appreciate it if you lay off your incessant ad hominem attacks on those with different opinions than yours. Challenge the points of contention with logical arguments and factual data instead of attacking the person. It will actually elevate the discussion instead of turning it into a schoolyard name-calling contest. Cool beans?

    As far as the bet goes. Let's see howmany more people are interested. We can lay down some fair odds based on the generated purse and proceed from there.
    I haven't seen or heard cool beans used since the 90s. Thanks for taking me back!
    Your nickname for CQ was particularly weak though, in an 'I just lost some brain cells' kind of way.

    I think it's irrelevant how CQ will do in Colombia. The point is he did great with us. Aside from how the team's game improved overall think about how the norm for any 20 yr old who performed well for half a season used to be going to the gulf leagues and wasting their talent/ youth. We have more young players trying to prove themselves in European leagues than ever before.

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  • Trinity
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    Originally posted by teammelli8080 View Post
    Trinity, I'd love to be in on this bet too, make it official, put the money in an escrow account under the control of a neutral third party. Trinity do you have an upper limit you feel comfortable with? I understand a lot of the new members coming out of the woodwork are vile garbage castrated snakes, hoping you are not the same and are being genuine with your bet offer! Let me know if you have an upper limit you feel comfortable with e.g. $10,000 $50,000, etc
    Raging Inferno suggested betyou app, I haven't used it. But it seems legit. So far, it's 3 over 10 and 1 under 10. So I'm thinking the odds laid down should be atleast 3:1 so far.

    Oh, and I'm not going psycho with 10k bets. Maybe a 100 bucks per or something like that.

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  • DR Strangemoosh
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    Originally posted by Trinity View Post
    Sure thing bud. But I'd appreciate it if you lay off your incessant ad hominem attacks on those with different opinions than yours. Challenge the points of contention with logical arguments and factual data instead of attacking the person. It will actually elevate the discussion instead of turning it into a schoolyard name-calling contest. Cool beans?
    As far as the bet goes. Let's see howmany more people are interested. We can lay down some fair odds based on the generated purse and proceed from there.
    Trinity, bro if you look at my post history I've written essays and long paragraphs so often but it gets exhausting. The responses I get are a logic bypass.

    If "namak nashnas" is an ad hominem attack, then sign me up to the Ad Hominem Attack Society. That's all you can say to people who can't appreciate in some way what your "Gohroosh" has done.

    BTW for someone who calls Queiroz "Gohroosh", it's a bit rich talking about Ad Hominems and schoolyard name-calling contests, but whatever dude. Your logic. Cool beans?

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  • Trinity
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    Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
    Can I also make a bet with you that he will last more than 10 games? I find that people who are namak nashnas and don't appreciate what they have had are always good for a bet.
    Sure thing bud. But I'd appreciate it if you lay off your incessant ad hominem attacks on those with different opinions than yours. Challenge the points of contention with logical arguments and factual data instead of attacking the person. It will actually elevate the discussion instead of turning it into a schoolyard name-calling contest. Cool beans?

    As far as the bet goes. Let's see howmany more people are interested. We can lay down some fair odds based on the generated purse and proceed from there.

    Leave a comment:


  • teammelli8080
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    Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
    Trinity,
    Are you referring to Queiroz as Gohroosh here?
    Can I also make a bet with you that he will last more than 10 games? I find that people who are namak nashnas and don't appreciate what they have had are always good for a bet.
    Trinity, I'd love to be in on this bet too, make it official, put the money in an escrow account under the control of a neutral third party. Trinity do you have an upper limit you feel comfortable with? I understand a lot of the new members coming out of the woodwork are vile garbage castrated snakes, hoping you are not the same and are being genuine with your bet offer! Let me know if you have an upper limit you feel comfortable with e.g. $10,000 $50,000, etc

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  • DR Strangemoosh
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    Trinity,

    Originally posted by Trinity View Post
    TM under gohroosh doesn't suit creative wingers that double as strikers too.
    Are you referring to Queiroz as Gohroosh here?

    Can I also make a bet with you that he will last more than 10 games? I find that people who are namak nashnas and don't appreciate what they have had are always good for a bet.

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