The Swedish Connection that might take Team Melli players to Europe

[Sly]

And that's exactly what this might lead to, to get back to topic

Where would you prefer these players on Patrick Mörk's roster to end up in European teams? And please be realistic, dear friends..

Omid Alishah (Liga Adelante)
Hossein Kanaani (2. Bundesliga)
Mehdi Taremi (Allsvenskan)
Mehdi Torabi (Ligue 1)
Kaveh Rezaei (Danish Superliga)
Milad Mohammadi (Eredivisie)
Mehrdad Mohammadi (Eredivisie)
Mehrdad Ghanbari (Raiffeisen Super League)
Ali Alipour (Russian Premier League)
Milad Kamandani (SuperLig)

Maybe?

Well, I read some people here say if they end up in the Swedish league, it's only good if they ended up in the top teams. I would say even if they end up in the lower table teams, it's good for them. They could slowly get to the better teams and maybe even go to better leagues.

[Zamboor]

I would love to have them here in Alllsvenskan. To be honest the league is on its way back. Malmö FF took the first step 2 seasons ago and now european teams actually are afraid of playing Malmö FF away in Malmö. This might be the start of the return of Allsvenskan to the top football in Europe. I know i might be overreacting and so on but the quality of the football and players have increased in the past years. A few years ago i would fall asleep watching allsvenskan games now its actually interesting and exciting.

[Camran khan]

But then you would say all the Iranian goalkoochik players are Karimis because of the iranian environment! But they are not! Karimi was a one timer player who had an inherited talent! Just like Zlatan! The only difference is, one was brought up properly in professional environment and one wasn't.

I think the problem is that you and ali alipour are arguing about different things. I think ali alipour is mostly talking about talent, which we have no shortage of in Iran, while you're talking about the professional enviroment which Sweden has and Iran doesn't.

[Hormozgan]

But if Karimi went to Europe at an early age, then yes, god knows where he would've ended up.

And that's exactly what this might lead to, to get back to topic

Where would you prefer these players on Patrick Mörk's roster to end up in European teams? And please be realistic, dear friends..

Omid Alishah (Liga Adelante)
Hossein Kanaani (2. Bundesliga)
Mehdi Taremi (Allsvenskan)
Mehdi Torabi (Ligue 1)
Kaveh Rezaei (Danish Superliga)
Milad Mohammadi (Eredivisie)
Mehrdad Mohammadi (Eredivisie)
Mehrdad Ghanbari (Raiffeisen Super League)
Ali Alipour (Russian Premier League)
Milad Kamandani (SuperLig)

Maybe?

[Sly]

To be fair, Karimi growing up in Iran is what made him special. Growing up in a country like Sweden he most likely wouldn't be playing gol kuchik and futsal and he wouldn't be able to dribble like that.

But if Karimi went to Europe at an early age, then yes, god knows where he would've ended up.

But then you would say all the Iranian goalkoochik players are Karimis because of the iranian environment! But they are not! Karimi was a one timer player who had an inherited talent! Just like Zlatan! The only difference is, one was brought up properly in professional environment and one wasn't.

[Camran khan]

I don't agree with you! The fact that Zlatan has reached where he's reached, and Ali Karimi reached where he reached is a clear indication of the environment they both were brought up in! If Ali Karimi were brought up in Sweden, you never know.... he might have been up there among the best today!

To be fair, Karimi growing up in Iran is what made him special. Growing up in a country like Sweden he most likely wouldn't be playing gol kuchik and futsal and he wouldn't be able to dribble like that.
But if Karimi went to Europe at an early age, then yes, god knows where he would've ended up.

[Sly]

Im talking about Zlatan in particular. His physique and talent is pretty irrelevant of the Swedish league. He would probably be just as good if he started off in the Croatian or Ukrainian league or whatever. These single freak case guys don't have much to do with the league. Do you think mikhtaryan is a product of the Armenian league?

I don't agree with you! The fact that Zlatan has reached where he's reached, and Ali Karimi reached where he reached is a clear indication of the environment they both were brought up in!
If Ali Karimi was brought up in Sweden, you never know.... he might have been up there among the best today!

[ali alipour]

How about Fredrik Ljungberg? How about Henrik Larsson? If we go further back in time, how about Thomas Brolin?
You can not neglect the fact that the Swedish football produces some great players! Their school is up there among the most modern ones. and the whole point is, our players would be so much good off playing there!

Im talking about Zlatan in particular. His physique and talent is pretty irrelevant of the Swedish league. He would probably be just as good if he started off in the Croatian or Ukrainian league or whatever. These single freak case guys don't have much to do with the league. Do you think mikhtaryan is a product of the Armenian league?

[Zamboor]

so why is there only one of him. If he was a product of the league there should be many Swedish players as good as him.

Cause he is a SUPER STAR. He is no ordinary player. There are tons of average players and great talents just look how Swedish u-21 won the euro championship and qualified for the olympics. You can't compare a SUPER star to ordinary players. Why doesent Premier League produce a single english striker equally as good as Zlatan? Well now they got Kane but before that there was an empty vacuum, are you going to say that the english academies suck. You need Talent to develop in to a Zlatan. Without the Zlatan even if we give you all the best facilities in the world at best you will become a Bojan Kirkic.

[Hormozgan]

These are once in a generation players who are just talents freaks. They don't have much to do with the leagues

Actually, no. Ljungberg won both the league and the cup with small town club Halmstad, who got relagated this year. They were talented players playing domestically, performed and took the chance to go abroad, just as Iranian players should. Larsson went to Feyenoord and Ljungberg straight to Arsenal.

Sure, Zlatan is a force of nature and he had emmense raw talent, but he could had ended up like say Mido if he hadn't a certain IQ and work ethic to put his talent to use and get to a bigger stage and learn from greats to go with his enormous potenial.