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  • teammelli91
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    Rahmati is good in every department, EXCEPT for his exits on crosses and corners. I don't know if he's scared or confused. Either way it's not good.

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  • zzgloo
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    Who ever,CQ chooses, will be the best option...
    TM does not need distraction.

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  • Z Joon
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    Who is our best goal keeper option?

    Originally posted by khodam View Post
    I don't root for SS or Rahmati. I think him quitting TM was very unprofessional. But he has been very sharp in the last few games.

    Rahmati is not very strong in the air. It's just he wasn't really tested on this in the derby game. Otherwise very solid.

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    Agreed he is terrible on crosses and long balls but his reflexes and 1 on 1s are unmatched by any Iranian goalkeeper today, he can really save teams and saved our asses so many times in the past. Even on his worst form Id say that he is still the one of the top Asian gks.

    But not worth the trouble Imo...

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  • khodam
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    I don't root for SS or Rahmati. I think him quitting TM was very unprofessional. But he has been very sharp in the last few games.

    Rahmati is not very strong in the air. It's just he wasn't really tested on this in the derby game. Otherwise very solid.

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  • Afat11
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    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
    I don't understand what all these pro-Rahmati comments are all of a sudden... Don't get me wrong, overall he had a good game yesterday, but he really made only one difficult save in the 2nd half off the header.

    The two saves in the 1st half, off Alishah & Nourallahi's shots you'd expect any pro keeper to make and should be written off as poorly placed shots rather than great saves. IMHO Sosha's one handed save (even though the ball may have hit the post) was a much more difficult save than anything Rahmati did in the match.

    And let's not forget that horrendous exit on the corner - he was lucky not to get scored on that one. And speaking of horrendous exists, it was only two weeks ago he was caught in no man's land and got scored on from 40 yards out.

    Rahmati has always made good saves, but one he's not consistent and two he gets cocky too easily - which may also explain why he's not consistent.
    After looking at PFDC during every match for the last 5 years or so, this forum has some of the most wishy-washy and reactionary people. Haghighi makes a good save... "Haghighi shire, I kiss his feet."

    5 minutes later, Haghighi has a shaky moment... "He sucks, I always knew it."

    These are the same people that come here and write our coach and particular players off when we underachieve, then recede into silence or pretend they weren't talking smack about these guys when our players or team do well. Definition of fairweather fans. Can't support a team and acknowledge the flaws. Need to point the finger at single people and attempt to replace them with people who made the same mistakes in the past. Replace CQ with some other coach thinking they can get anything positive done with IFF running the show. Replace Haghighi with another Iranian GK and expect them to not make mistakes (the same mistakes top GK's have been shown to make), nothing will change. Replace Gucci with Sardar when he doesn't score a goal in 2 games, then replace Azmoun with our savior Gucci when he has some off performances...

    It's just a cycle. Low brow people who can't look at the bigger picture of the reasons why our team cannot sustain successful performances (#1 reason, most teams in world football today cannot sustain successful performances, especially in times of transition). Hopefully someone will read this and see that suggesting Rahmati be called back to TM is foolish and knee-jerk reaction to the Japan friendly. How about we all calm down, and just support our players? Mohammad Nouri and Haddadifar were able to get us into Brazil (many people, including me, were bashing them and CQ's decision to call them up), and we saw that it worked out for the best. Let's not make the same mistake and hate on players or CQ now and be negative thorns in TM's side. I think the moral boost of a fanbase united would do wonders for TM, more than revolving players in and out of the team, which the other side suggests.

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  • Bi-honar
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    I don't understand what all these pro-Rahmati comments are all of a sudden... Don't get me wrong, overall he had a good game yesterday, but he really made only one difficult save in the 2nd half off the header.

    The two saves in the 1st half, off Alishah & Nourallahi's shots you'd expect any pro keeper to make and should be written off as poorly placed shots rather than great saves. IMHO Sosha's one handed save (even though the ball may have hit the post) was a much more difficult save than anything Rahmati did in the match.

    And let's not forget that horrendous exit on the corner - he was lucky not to get scored on that one. And speaking of horrendous exists, it was only two weeks ago he was caught in no man's land and got scored on from 40 yards out.

    Rahmati has always made good saves, but one he's not consistent and two he gets cocky too easily - which may also explain why he's not consistent.

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  • BehnamT
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    imagine, you are running a business and in the middle of a big project your top engineer say he wants to leave ( without any reason. just wants to leave because he feels insecure of his position in your organisation ) . then the project finishes successfully without him. now a new project lands in your hand. do you trust that engineer that left during last project?
    CQ also has a business to run and it is to get us to the WC18. after the past encounter with his top goalkeeper he does not want to deal with unreliable player. simple as this.

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  • _Navid_
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    Originally posted by Salar View Post
    I'm hoping this was not directed towards CQ cause that would surely not help his case. He did have a great game though as he often does but even Rahmati is extremely inconsistent, unfortunately we dont have a top goalkeeper right now in our football and we haven't pretty much had one since Oghab.
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  • persepolisfan
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    People writing essays on pfdc everyday

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by Afat11 View Post
    Lol, are you responding to an argument from a month ago? I'm sensitive, but I don't write essays a month after the original post was made. You're making a bunch of recommendations to me, but it seems you could adopt some of your own suggestions that you so kindly suggest for me.
    Good Luck.
    Read your own comments and see how long it was. You gave me an essay in my midterm (last week not a month ago). So you are wrong on dates. You called Camran on that essay instead of me which Camran addressed it right and you corrected the statement. (That shows you didn't know who you were even talking to) Today I had time and wrote you back. This is to show respect and you just brush it off with a wrong accusation (calling it from a month ago while you wrote it 10.21.2015) and try to retaliate. This is just wrong. I don't know if there is any more room for discussion here. Every person may make mistake and nobody is a perfect person. I also try to listen to rational advises not just general announcements.

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  • Afat11
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    This is a conspiracy mentality thinking everyone is against you because they have different opinions. The fact that you think I belong to a mafia like group of people is totally wrong. I am an independent thinker and because of that I get a lot of chastises by certain people. I am not here for a popularity contest as well. If you have noticed I have lost and gained favors back and fort because some people disagreed with me to the point to give me negative rep and some others may loved what I say and gave me back rep power. Some people who were totally agree with me on most of my political/social/footballing opinion might think I betrayed them somewhere else when I picked the other side of argument, which is wrong. You can ask Zjoon, Kiarash, Zamboor, and many others who I tend to agree with on some areas about this.
    Now about you: Because I felt you were also an independent thinker but younger than me (precisely a teenager), I gave you a piece of advice, not to degrade you or get even with you over some old disagreement. But to help you have better arguments without heading for confrontation, or provocation and to present your idea in a refine manner. No matter how much information a person has or being right logically, if he/she seems impulsive or confrontational then he/she loses the argument before even starting. (this comes from my own personal experience)
    Generalization, and over sensitiveness get us in confrontational arguments as well. (for example you have obviously mistook me for Camran when you were writing this comment.)
    Anyway I wish you good luck and I never meant or mean harm or ridicule anyone even if they have insulted me. I have disagreement with number of people who got warning over insulting and name calling but I never reciprocate. That is my mentality. I won't hold you on another thread over some old argument.
    I think it is a great thing to be an independent thinker but we should be familiar with concept of fair argument as well as keeping the argument as a dialogue not monologue, which means hearing other side fairly and analysed them reasonably, they might be wrong over something but that does not make them stupid also they may point to some issues that we never have thought about which is the benefit of a debate. This way it will be a win-win game. Getting new ideas and watching an issue from new angles is always in our benefit.
    Finally, as much as you like this website all other members do and have the right to express their opinion without being called stupid or other names. So if you expect others to "deal with it" as "you put it that way", you also need to deal with their existence and disagreements.
    Good Luck

    Lol, are you responding to an argument from a month ago? I'm sensitive, but I don't write essays a month after the original post was made. You're making a bunch of recommendations to me, but it seems you could adopt some of your own suggestions that you so kindly suggest for me.

    Good Luck.

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  • Sly
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    Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
    and he will be nearing 35 by 2018.
    35 is completely ok for a goalie!

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  • Nariman
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    It’s pretty simple:
    As long as Rahmati does not apologize he can’t be forgiven and does not deserve to be invited. When it comes to Rahmati the question is not "quality" - of course he is TM material - it’s simply only his attitude that is preventing him, nothing else.

    So there is no reason to waste time on him until he admits his mistake - for now let's focus on other options like Akhbari, who so far had the most impressive saves of the season IMO.

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  • Z Joon
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    I also agree that Rahmati is the best keeper after Abedzadeh retired, but he isn't an option anymore unfortunately/fortunately and it's better that way IMO.

    Haghighi will probably be our keeper "short-term" but we will have to turn ourselves to Beiranvand and Akhbari for the future, I highly doubt that Haghighi will be our keeper in 2018

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by Afat11 View Post
    If you check the other thread, I didn't say anything personal to ali alipour. I posted a response to him, and I was quite reasonable. People on this forum cannot handle argument. They stoop to personal insults implying I'm crazy, or whatever. It's fine. Even here, I wasn't even talking to anyone, and I was told f*** this and f*** that by persiancheetah and you're giving me advice on how to act?
    I think some people here are just in this mob mafia mentality where they hate CQ, hate certain players, etc. Anyone who says, "guys, wake up" is crazy and angry and everything else to disagree. Name one post where I cuss at a person, or pick them out personally. Please. I make arguments, and I'm getting tired of specific members spouting garbage and then when I respond with a footballing argument, they ask me to check my meds or some other childish response.
    I find it funny that you're calling me out for acting immature though. Z Joon literally wrote me his life story of 20 pages a week or two ago when I accidentally responded to one of his comments. Where were you all to calm him down and call him immature and whatnot and question his sanity.
    None of you do that, because it's a mafia mentality. You agree with Z Joon, mahestan, etc. on most things, so my 3 paragraph answers seem like the ravings of a madman, while Z Joon sounds like a poet to you.
    I'm sorry I don't see eye to eye on this, but I will be making my opinion known on a forum asking for footballing opinions. If people think I'm harsh, that's fine. I don't cuss anyone out or anything. The way you started this by asking my age is obviously meant to degrade me in a similar way to someone being like "AFAT Jan please you're so angry, where are your meds."
    I know you're attempting to dress me down in a formal manner, but I don't appreciate it. How old are you may I ask? I feel like it is hypocritical behavior to jump on me when I'm having a footballing argument and not stooping to insults, yet you are nowhere to be found when Z Joon is literally arguing with himself and writing 10 page angry paragraphs. At least I'm not a hypocrite to be honest. You can think I'm 5 years old or whatever, but again, it really couldn't mean less to me how you would like me to speak here on PFDC. I'm following the rules, I'm not cursing, I'm not personally insulting any member.
    Some members should come down from their high-horses, look in the mirror and acknowledge that picking on, insulting, and then attempting to shame a member who simply disagrees with many of you is sad and ridiculous.
    Many of you have been acting like this for years, which may be why I am so harsh in tone. I used to be nice to some of you guys, and many of you (particularly Z Joon) stoop to low-brow, condescending insults.
    I cannot be mister nice guy with my arguments, because when I was, I would get some "witty" response implying I am dumb for supporting whomever or whatever. So, I respond harshly now. That's my prerogative PersianLegion, and I won't be changing it for someone who has often disagreed with me in the past.
    I've had quite a few members PM me and personally tell me that they stopped posting here because of the bullying behavior on these forums. They tell me how many of you basically push your opinions on people and gang up on members who disagree with you.
    Also, I noticed that when I posted the exact goal that we conceded to Oman being conceded by the world's greatest goalie ATM Manuel Neuer, nobody responded to the footballing aspect of it. Just called me crazy or whatever for sarcastically pointing out many member here's brushing aside of Haghighi after his mistake.
    I think you should all examine and see how you deal with things that disagree with your line of thought. Instead of thinking the guy who points these things out that are contrary to you are crazy or angry or whatever, maybe you guys can respond with your footballing opinions?
    I'd appreciate that in the future, but all I get is sarcastic and meaningless personal insults. Prove me wrong guys. How was Neuer's mistake different than Haghighi's???
    Nobody will answer, another mafioso will come by and say, "AFAT11, you're crazy!!" I'm over that response. At this point, I see through this bully behavior and I receive enough support through PM, so I know it's just you guys. You've silenced a lot of your opponents on PFDC, but I am here to stay. Deal with it.
    This is a conspiracy mentality thinking everyone is against you because they have different opinions. The fact that you think I belong to a mafia like group of people is totally wrong. I am an independent thinker and because of that I get a lot of chastises by certain people. I am not here for a popularity contest as well. If you have noticed I have lost and gained favors back and fort because some people disagreed with me to the point to give me negative rep and some others may loved what I say and gave me back rep power. Some people who were totally agree with me on most of my political/social/footballing opinion might think I betrayed them somewhere else when I picked the other side of argument, which is wrong. You can ask Zjoon, Kiarash, Zamboor, and many others who I tend to agree with on some areas about this.

    Now about you: Because I felt you were also an independent thinker but younger than me (precisely a teenager), I gave you a piece of advice, not to degrade you or get even with you over some old disagreement. But to help you have better arguments without heading for confrontation, or provocation and to present your idea in a refine manner. No matter how much information a person has or being right logically, if he/she seems impulsive or confrontational then he/she loses the argument before even starting. (this comes from my own personal experience)

    Generalization, and over sensitiveness get us in confrontational arguments as well. (for example you have obviously mistook me for Camran when you were writing this comment.)

    Anyway I wish you good luck and I never meant or mean harm or ridicule anyone even if they have insulted me. I have disagreement with number of people who got warning over insulting and name calling but I never reciprocate. That is my mentality. I won't hold you on another thread over some old argument.

    I think it is a great thing to be an independent thinker but we should be familiar with concept of fair argument as well as keeping the argument as a dialogue not monologue, which means hearing other side fairly and analysed them reasonably, they might be wrong over something but that does not make them stupid also they may point to some issues that we never have thought about which is the benefit of a debate. This way it will be a win-win game. Getting new ideas and watching an issue from new angles is always in our benefit.

    Finally, as much as you like this website all other members do and have the right to express their opinion without being called stupid or other names. So if you expect others to "deal with it" as "you put it that way", you also need to deal with their existence and disagreements.

    Good Luck

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